SOPA Storms Back

[blindthrall]

...Did they seriously pull out the race card?
SOPA, you continue to amuse my disappointment. I hope your houses spontaneously fall down on top of you.

The irony is that "foreign thieves", fictitious entities or not, aren't the ones to be punished by preventing US citizens from accessing a free internet.

It's sure going to open up a market for people selling an uncensored internet to us, though; certain entrepreneurs are already setting plans in motion to capitalize on our government's foolhardiness. Way to combat piracy by helping to invent a new form of it, Congress. Truly, you are a boon to the people.

I'd also be interested to see how many people would flat out leave the country over this.

So the future will have internet speakeasies? I wonder if a private booth will be available, because if they don't sequester the porn seekers, I ain't going in there.

 

[Zeekar]

I wish I could properly explain how the US Congress works to The Escapist community. How many of you actually know what markup is? I can tell you that markup is NOT where proponents of this bill want it to go. I can tell you that its chances of revival in this congressional term are slim and that this is a huge setback.

But you won't believe me.

Because the internet is for OMG!, not intelligent conversation.

As someone who works in legislative law, SOPA and PIPA (by proxy) are dead. Of course, anything can rear its head again, but for now it is over. Good job. You people made my work SOOOOOOOOO much easier.

Thanks.

Thank you. Now I don't have to say it.

 

[zehydra]

Damn stubborn politicians, just let SOPA die.

"To enact legislation that protects consumers, businesses and jobs from foreign thieves who steal America's intellectual property, we will continue to bring together industry representatives and Members to find ways to combat online piracy,"

So now its only us foreign people that pirate then is it?

The idea is that foreign pirates are outside of US jurisdiction, so we can't prosecute them. This was the politicians' way of solving that problem.

But of course, they're doing it all wrong.

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

Damn stubborn politicians, just let SOPA die.

"To enact legislation that protects consumers, businesses and jobs from foreign thieves who steal America's intellectual property, we will continue to bring together industry representatives and Members to find ways to combat online piracy,"

So now its only us foreign people that pirate then is it?

The idea is that foreign pirates are outside of US jurisdiction, so we can't prosecute them. This was the politicians' way of solving that problem.

But of course, they're doing it all wrong.

True, but given that the US has successfully gotten an extradition notice for a uk citezen on the grounds of copyright infringement one must wonder why they need legislation like SOPA and PIPA to go after pirates outside of US jurisdiction.

 

[z121231211]

Learn programming because they could. Quite easily. It just would cost money and no site wants to spend money doing such a thing.

I know I must of heard wrong when I heard that entire sites can be shut down "without due process." By all means encourage sites programming in anti-piracy things into websites. But at least have site shut-downs go through some kind of judiciary thing requiring evidence and possibly give the site a chance to remove said content.

From the looks of it, it completely undermines the whole "Innocent until proven guilty" thing we have going on. It would then become "You've been accused of copyright infringement, you are now guilty and face all charges until you prove yourself innocent."

 

[spartan231490]

SOPA will pass and then be repealed after the consequences are fully realized. Did anyone expect it to be completely gone?

Do you really think it will be repealed? The NDAA is still going strong and is still much worse. The "Protect Children from online pornography act" is far worse than SOPA ever was and is on the floor right now. Could be wrong about the name, but it's close to that. The fact is, that a worse law than we could ever imagine will be on the books within the next 2 years regardless of what we do. With the NDAA on the books, it is a very short period of time before some form of censorship is put on the internet. It's the next step. Without a censorship of the internet, the NDAA cannot be used effectively, meaning that if they put it on the books, they will need to put an internet censor on the books to use it. It is the next obvious step.

 

[Velentr]

God I really hoped that we had won that one... on a similar note:

Have any of you guys heard of ACTA? Basically it's SOPA on speed, and it's being drawn up in EU, and it has been since 2008 WITHOUT the knowledge of the populations of the countries involved...

Show us your surport- surport a free internet-STOP ACTA!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bAkpsRLE

 

[Wintermoot]

I expected another SOPA/PROTECT IP ish bill was going to be announced but not the original also wasn't SOPA/PROTECT IP shelved ?

At any rate, I knew SOPA was far from over. I didn't partake in any "the bill's dead, w00t!" celebrations yesterday.

me neither I was afraid PROTECT IP was still discussed.

 

[Wintermoot]

God I really hoped that we had won that one... on a similar note:

Have any of you guys heard of ACTA? Basically it's SOPA on speed, and it's being drawn up in EU, and it has been since 2008 WITHOUT the knowledge of the populations of the countries involved...

Show us your surport- surport a free internet-STOP ACTA!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bAkpsRLE

I live in the EU and I never knew about it until this whole SOPA debacle.
I think it,s disgusting they discus this stuff without informing the people.
PS
if you want to post a video it,s