SOPA Storms Back

[TheDooD]

We pirate their shit, they pirate our shit and we all get along. Right?

Oh shit I forgot about money well since it's not real lets just give everybody high numbers that'll work just like money.

Wait rich people won't like that? Aww fucking hell back to square one...

 

[Digitaldreamer7]

I shall sing you the song of my people


Seriously, it makes me feel bad about being american. When I visit the UK i'm going to wear a sign that says "I'm not your typical asshole American."

 

[EvilChameleon]

Good lord, time to move to England.

 

[Exile714]

I wish I could properly explain how the US Congress works to The Escapist community. How many of you actually know what markup is? I can tell you that markup is NOT where proponents of this bill want it to go. I can tell you that its chances of revival in this congressional term are slim and that this is a huge setback.

But you won't believe me.

Because the internet is for OMG!, not intelligent conversation.

As someone who works in legislative law, SOPA and PIPA (by proxy) are dead. Of course, anything can rear its head again, but for now it is over. Good job. You people made my work SOOOOOOOOO much easier.

Thanks.

 

[praetor_alpha]

I'm either deeply miunderstanding something or he's making no sense.

'Foreign thieves'? I thought SOPA only affected US citizens... and even if I'm wrong, it's still offensive.

Look at our foreign policy. We're all about physically stomping on soverignty so why not do it in a less visible way online?

It doesn't even matter whose sovereignty we stomp on. Look at our domestic policy.

America needs to do some nation building alright. On America.

 

[Solo-Wing]

Good lord, time to move to England.

Or up here in Canada! We are always welcoming refugees!

 

[Lopsided Weener]

Good lord, time to move to England.

Don't move here, you'll just get extradited back by our idiot government.

 

[The Random One]

What jobs is he talking about? Won't SOPA destory all kinds of jobs like some of the ones people on the escapist have?

Nope it won't destroy anything that isn't infringing on copyright. The Bill is so tightly worded that it really can only be used against torrent sites, tv show links and so on. Forums, youtube and so on will be safe; people just want you to believe they aren't and hope you haven't read the bill for yourself.

Nope. Any site that allows people to post freely can be accused under SOPA, as long as someone in there posts anything. Under DMCA people hosting that content have to act to remove it as soon as they are notified of such; under SOPA they are commiting a felony if they fail to police the site to stop it from happening, which is unfeasible on sites that have millions of users like Facebook and YouTube.

And the main danger is that a claimant doesn't need to bring up any proof that the infringing content is indeed damaging their sales; an overzealous music executive could shut down the Escapist over the intro and outro songs of the earlier Zero Punctiation episodes, and it's more likely than not that they eventually will, due to how copyright laws in the US work.

The only result of this bill will be a massive exodus of any technology-based company from the Us to escape from it, and as that's pretty much the only sector of the US economy that's still growing that will pretty much throw the country under the bus. Especially now that there's already a different crisis going on with the US as one of its lynchpins.

 

[LGC Pominator]

Good lord, time to move to England.

Feel free, just be sure to check the accent in at the gate, otherwise our crazies will treat you like Joe Arpaio treats mexicans

Apparently English people have a problem with America... can't imagine why

OT:

FUUUUUUU

I seriously thought that this was over and done with, what is it with American politics where they insist on things that set them back years at a time?

 

[Thyunda]

Good lord, time to move to England.

Good luck with that - US law now extends to our sovereign shores. Check the poor 'criminal' student.

 

[C F]

*sigh*

Well, I didn't expect the shelf time to be this short. Way to be schizo, Congress.
I do believe Lincoln said something about "a house divided..."

At any rate, I knew SOPA was far from over. I didn't partake in any "the bill's dead, w00t!" celebrations yesterday. But I'm certainly looking forward to the day I can. In the meantime, just don't let it out of your sight.

 

[Yowsa]

SOPA "protected American jobs" they say. Is Google not an American company. Is FaceBook not an American company. how many time have you posted some type of copyrighted content or link to copyrighted content to a forum or FaceBook

 

[Sixcess]

foreign thieves who steal America's intellectual property

America! Fuck YEAH!

That's some wildly inflammatory rhetoric. I'd hope this guy is some part of the lunatic fringe... right? Right?

 

[Spud of Doom]

Ugh, so not impressed by this. In saying that, though, this guy is undeniably a biased source. It may be further gone than he is suggesting.

 

[LGC Pominator]

I wish I could properly explain how the US Congress works to The Escapist community. How many of you actually know what markup is? I can tell you that markup is NOT where proponents of this bill want it to go. I can tell you that its chances of revival in this congressional term are slim and that this is a huge setback.

But you won't believe me.

Because the internet is for OMG!, not intelligent conversation.

As someone who works in legislative law, SOPA and PIPA (by proxy) are dead. Of course, anything can rear its head again, but for now it is over. Good job. You people made my work SOOOOOOOOO much easier.

Thanks.

If that is the case then thanks for bringing it to our attention, this is good news!

The confidence of the guy who is responsible for the bill is a little offputting, so I would like to get a better understanding of this before I ask pinkie pie to roll out the party cannon.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

... to send a bipartisan bill to the White House that saves American jobs and protects intellectual property."

I'll be laughing at how stupid this is until they realize their folly. Let's save American jobs by shutting down one of the largest sectors of the workforce!

It's like saving hungry people by prohibiting sandwiches. Well done, numbnuts.

foreign thieves who steal America's intellectual property

America! Fuck YEAH!

That's some wildly inflammatory rhetoric. I'd hope this guy is some part of the lunatic fringe... right? Right?

The republican party, so yeah, more or less at this point.

 

[Richardplex]

Good lord, time to move to England.

Don't move here, you'll just get extradited back by our idiot government.

You know, This could be the worst time and worst place to complain about the idiocy of our government, considering why the escapee is leaving.

 

[The Random One]

I wish I could properly explain how the US Congress works to The Escapist community. How many of you actually know what markup is? I can tell you that markup is NOT where proponents of this bill want it to go. I can tell you that its chances of revival in this congressional term are slim and that this is a huge setback.

Of course I know what markup is! It's the difference between how much a company charges for a product and its individual manufacturing cost. It differs from profit because it usually refers to a single SKU, and it doesn't take into account other costs involved in the product's manufacture, such as workers' wages.

Pfft, I don't know why I'm explaining this to you. You're on the internet, and everyone on the internet is dumb but me.

 

[Gregg Lonsdale]

I live in Australia, and the blackout protests are happening right now. And I suppose the whole dirty foreigners thing comes from the fact that The Pirate Bay is offshore and the US can't do much about it.

Like the dude several comments above me said, when a bill is in markup in your system things aren't looking great for it. I can only assume that direct opposition from the executive branch is a pretty bad blow to its progression. I don't know that much about US politics, I only watch the daily show (since we can't get Bill Maher anymore), but we shouldn't stop the protests now. If we keep going strong then we can really drive this shit back into the water without winding up with a re-write in a months time. so yeah, 12 hour blackouts- GO.

 

[CoL0sS]

I wish I could properly explain how the US Congress works to The Escapist community. How many of you actually know what markup is? I can tell you that markup is NOT where proponents of this bill want it to go. I can tell you that its chances of revival in this congressional term are slim and that this is a huge setback.

But you won't believe me.

Because the internet is for OMG!, not intelligent conversation.

As someone who works in legislative law, SOPA and PIPA (by proxy) are dead. Of course, anything can rear its head again, but for now it is over. Good job. You people made my work SOOOOOOOOO much easier.

Thanks.

Thank God there are always patient know-it-all's such as yourself that can explain this unfathomable word to us poor, unwashed, slow-in-the-head peasants.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, and remember less condescension and a bit more respect will get you a lot more of those "intelligent conversations" you crave so much.