SOPA, which side of the line are you on?

Scrustle

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Well duh, I'm against it. I'm against piracy too but this bill has the potential to destroy the entire internet! I think that's a bit more important than some rich companies not making quite as much money as they would otherwise.
 

UltraPic

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Im all for sopa, i'll love it when gaming "journalists" will have to pay for the copyrighted content they use as if it's fair use.
 

LorienvArden

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Miles000 said:
Actually. The DNS blocking part of the act has been removed.

Though DNS blocking will be removed, SOPA will still allow officials to "follow the money" and cut off payment options to foreign illegal sites, like credit-card processing or PayPal accounts. Search engines like Google and Bing would also still be required to remove infringing Web sites from their search results. Copyright holders could also still bring claims against foreign Web sites that steal their technology, products, or IP.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398917,00.asp

All it does now is kill the internet!
Piracy ? What in blazes would SOPA/PIPA do against piracy ? Even if they blocked sites, or forced credit card companies to withhold payments to supicous sites, it would do absolutly nothing against rampant piracy in china, south america or eastern europe. Also, I am damn sure that you can find a way to get payments to "pirate sites" that circumvent these restrictions faster then hooker in las vegas.

Well, it is still a thinly veiled attempt of the dinosaurs of modern entertainment to finally gather the legal means to nuke any opposition that might grow in that nasty free market they all hate so much.

Stepping down from DNS-blocking is just a little distraction to the underlying threat of small companies suddenly beeing cut off from their financial assets.

They literally tell us: "It's fine now, see ? We removed the secondary biological warhead from the tactical nuke we aim at your home! Trust us, we wouldn't use it against you, we just want to point it at you!"

In response, we should create a petittion to enable tax payers to imidiattly shut down bank accounts of corporations if claims of tax evasion or embazzlement are beeing brought forth. We all hate embezzlement and tax evasion, and shutting down bank accounts accused of these horrible crimes so they can be investigated is the ONLY way we could stop it.
 

Miles000

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kebab4you said:
Kind of offtopic: Will escapist do anything like this next wednesday also?
I've asked the Tech Team if they have plans to join Reddit, Mojang and hopefully Wikipedia in their protest blackout.

But they haven't replied yet.

Feel free to help support the idea.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/chat/Tech-Team

It falls on ZP day, which I believe would be most effective.
 

Arkvoodle

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Companies are certainly entitled to protect their intellectual property, but the SOPA approach to piracy is like trying to kill ants in the kitchen with a grenade launcher.

There has to be a better way.
 

JasonKaotic

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I'm fairly sure everyone's answer will be the same. No-one on the internet with common sense supports SOPA. So yeah, I'm definitely not for it.
There's no need to put pirates and SOPA-opposers on the same boat though. SOPA is dangerous to far more than just pirates.
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Arkvoodle said:
the SOPA approach to piracy is like trying to kill ants in the kitchen with a grenade launcher.
This is one of the best things I've heard for a long time. I salute you.
 

Miles000

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LorienvArden said:
Piracy ? What in blazes would SOPA/PIPA do against piracy ? Even if they blocked sites, or forced credit card companies to withhold payments to supicous sites, it would do absolutly nothing against rampant piracy in china, south america or eastern europe. Also, I am damn sure that you can find a way to get payments to "pirate sites" that circumvent these restrictions faster then hooker in las vegas.

Well, it is still a thinly veiled attempt of the dinosaurs of modern entertainment to finally gather the legal means to nuke any opposition that might grow in that nasty free market they all hate so much.

Stepping down from DNS-blocking is just a little distraction to the underlying threat of small companies suddenly beeing cut off from their financial assets.

They literally tell us: "It's fine now, see ? We removed the secondary biological warhead from the tactical nuke we aim at your home! Trust us, we wouldn't use it against you, we just want to point it at you!"
But it's still a step in the right direction.
So far as I can tell, not many people are falling for it. Every site that put their name on the blackout list, remains there. Even more are still being added to it.
But it is progress. It is a sign that we are scaring supporters of the act!

In response, we should create a petittion to enable tax payers to imidiattly shut down bank accounts of corporations if claims of tax evasion or embazzlement are beeing brought forth. We all hate embezzlement and tax evasion, and shutting down bank accounts accused of these horrible crimes so they can be investigated is the ONLY way we could stop it.
In a perfect world...
 

James Ennever

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Arkvoodle said:
Companies are certainly entitled to protect their intellectual property, but the SOPA approach to piracy is like trying to kill ants in the kitchen with a grenade launcher.

There has to be a better way.
Agreed, A non retarded way at that. The RIAA is a bully who sucks off congress members with bribe while it only represents talent less autotuned production line approved music.......Plus they protect Beiber.

Nice avatar BTW loved that game
 

Vrach

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SOPA is to pirates what a nuclear missile is to a roach problem. It's gonna fuck up everything BUT the roaches.
 

Bruenin

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Miles000 said:
kebab4you said:
Kind of offtopic: Will escapist do anything like this next wednesday also?
I've asked the Tech Team if they have plans to join Reddit, Mojang and hopefully Wikipedia in their protest blackout.

But they haven't replied yet.

Feel free to help support the idea.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/chat/Tech-Team

It falls on ZP day, which I believe would be most effective.
How would shutting down the escapist help any... when almost everyone on the escapist is already aware of sopa and against it?
 

SomeBritishDude

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No one who uses the interenet should be supporting SOPA. It's like supporting someone nuking your home town because you have a cockroach problem. Now your just left with a nukular wasteland filled with cockroaches.

PIPA is a smaller nukular bomb. Which doesn't much matter when your watching a mushroom cloud rise over your house.
 

Robert Ewing

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Strictly against it.

Even if the ideals it claimed to be supporting were the only factor to consider, i,e stop pirates, I still wouldn't support it. Because there will still be piracy, always. So it's useless.
 

kebab4you

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Bruenin said:
Miles000 said:
kebab4you said:
Kind of offtopic: Will escapist do anything like this next wednesday also?
I've asked the Tech Team if they have plans to join Reddit, Mojang and hopefully Wikipedia in their protest blackout.

But they haven't replied yet.

Feel free to help support the idea.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/chat/Tech-Team

It falls on ZP day, which I believe would be most effective.
How would shutting down the escapist help any... when almost everyone on the escapist is already aware of sopa and against it?
Publicity about it is still great, besides think about all those who only comes to the site once a week to watch ZP, not granted all of them know about SOPA and how shitty it is.
 

VehemensDecor

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SOPA isn't about Piracy. It won't stop it and won't help the fight against it. It is just corporate censorship, corporations trying to control the internet and politicians not knowing what it will actually do.
 

Tentickles

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SOPA has no place on the internet.

Why?

Because the internet isnt an actual place. Isnt JUST in the United States.
 

CrazyGirl17

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You have to ask? I'm on the side against SOPA (not that I support Piracy either, mind you...)