Souls- Do we have them?

[ThrobbingEgo]

Do you believe in the human soul, or not?
Discuss.

Well.....

For Modern Medicine we have all the things required to make another human or to bring someone back from a recent death but it just won't happen.

you see the soul has no physical or infact any form at all therefore there is no proof of it but it's there. in theory we should be able to create life by now seeing our modern technology but no matter how hard we try it just doesn't happen.

i think the soul has some connection to your free will or to your ability to "Think" since animals in my opinion just exist they dont't have souls..

overall.

you can't prove it exist but you can't prove it doesn't exist either i beleive we have one but it's alot more complicated then some sort of spirit thing.

Someone's behind on their neuroscience and been watching too much Fullmetal Alchemist. When the brain dies, that's it, good bye. There's no bringing you back. You don't really need a soul to explain that.

 

[nathan-dts]

Yes we do; a soul isn't a physical thing, it is what humanity has named a persons sense of morality.

 

[Zersy]

Do you believe in the human soul, or not?
Discuss.

Well.....

For Modern Medicine we have all the things required to make another human or to bring someone back from a recent death but it just won't happen.

you see the soul has no physical or infact any form at all therefore there is no proof of it but it's there. in theory we should be able to create life by now seeing our modern technology but no matter how hard we try it just doesn't happen.

i think the soul has some connection to your free will or to your ability to "Think" since animals in my opinion just exist they dont't have souls..

overall.

you can't prove it exist but you can't prove it doesn't exist either i beleive we have one but it's alot more complicated then some sort of spirit thing.

Someone's behind on their neuroscience and been watching too much Fullmetal Alchemist. When the brain dies, that's it, good bye. There's no bringing you back. You don't really need a soul to explain that.

i forgot to say the part where how the soul and brain are very closey combined....

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

i forgot to say the part where how the soul and brain are very closey combined....

And why don't we just have a brain?

 

[teisjm]

I sold mine for 10 Kg of perfectly fried bacon

 

[arc101]

nope, we dont have one

 

[Zersy]

i forgot to say the part where how the soul and brain are very closey combined....

And why don't we just have a brain?

because it wouldn't work without a soul....

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

i forgot to say the part where how the soul and brain are very closey combined....

And why don't we just have a brain?

because it wouldn't work without a soul....

No. Why do you need a soul to explain the human mind? Why can't it just be the brain?

There's no reason to introduce the concept of a soul. There's nothing that needs to be explained by a soul that can't be explained by the brain, neuroscience, and evolutionary theory.

 

[ssjSephiroth]

I can't say for sure, but to say that nothing is there is ignorant. Most call it a soul and thus I will refer to it as such.

Think about who you are. Think about the big things and the smalls things. What's your favorite color? What's your favorite food? What kind of music do you like? et cetera.

So much differences that go beyond skin muscle tissue and bone. We also have emotions. Unlike machines we feel, think, and we even dream. Anyone can base around logic, but those "gut feelings" that some people get is your soul sensing something your mind misses.

Heroes of our age can defined as ones who defy logic. Who consider logic as an option, not a means even if logically an answer is better than the ones they choose.

Some people I know only base their life around logic and science, but neither one can explain everything. Love for example. Why do one like one attribute and hate the other why some others think the opposite?

Bullshit artist say "Oh it is mere chemical reactions in the brain and hormones." I beg to differ because love is something that goes beyond simple chemical reactions and brainwaves.

Do we have souls? I can't say for sure. It is like asking "Is there god?" or "Do ghosts exist?" All I can say it is ignorant to say that nothing is there because there is something there and there are something that go beyond what science can explain.

So many fools in this life always want proof of an existence. They always want someone to prove that a soul exists. You people are fools if EVERYTHING has to have a physical evidence to it.

Love is not a physical thing yet people know that exist, unless you are heartless cold prick.

It's nice to see someone FINALLY taking this thread seriously. Souls account for all the things that we as humans experience beyond basic physical desires and logical boundaries. I personally wish more people responding to this would take it seriously. But, in answer, yes, we do have souls, and that is the very reason why we, as humans, possess the gift of self-awareness, self-consciousness.

If you need proof, put a plate of chocolate cake in front of a human and an animal. Will the animal even pause to wonder how much fat is has in it? How it might make them fat or increase their cholesterol level? I wouldn't think so. Which is not to say that animals don't possess the physical feelings we humans do, but that they lack in that aforementioned gift of self-consciousness that we have. There IS no physical explanation for the self-consciousness that we possess; is it our brains? our hearts? No. Animals have those things too. The only explanation is that there must be something beyond our physical body to account for it, and that is what we call a soul.

 

[Straitjacketeering]

No. We do not.

If we did people would be selling them to the devil or some shit like that.

I've been trying for years.

 

[Zersy]

i forgot to say the part where how the soul and brain are very closey combined....

And why don't we just have a brain?

because it wouldn't work without a soul....

No. Why do you need a soul to explain the human mind? Why can't it just be the brain?

There's no reason to introduce the concept of a soul. There's nothing that needs to be explained by a soul that can't be explained by the brain, neuroscience, and evolutionary theory.

umm i did say that they have no physical form and are a unexplainable thing

like how does the mind work if it's not physical ?

i'm just gonna say that souls are so complicated that no matter how hard you try you can't explain them

oh and trust me i spent about 4 years of my life trying to explain the soul and could only come to the conclusion that it exist but everything else about it is impossible to explain

and belive me you have no idea how much sceincetific knowledge and thoeris i ahd to apply to figure it out

but that whole 4 years of research and thinking made me find out the purpose of life.....

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

*Snip*

Okay, one more time, why do you think that we have souls - and that our selves not just the products of our physical brains?

 

[Zersy]

*Snip*

Okay, one more time, why do you think that we have souls - and that our selves not just the products of our physical brains?

The same reason you believe that we are all the products of our physical brains.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

*Snip*

Okay, one more time, why do you think that we have souls - and that our selves not just the products of our physical brains?

The same reason you believe that we are all the products of our physical brains.

Because we have scientists that actually study the brain and are able to explain how the bits and pieces work? You're going to have to explain how this explains souls.

 

[Nargleblarg]

Wow this is hard to answer depends on what you believe a soul actually is.

The belief of a soul flying away and going to heaven or hell ya that's not real.

But there is scientific research that when you die you lose like 15 grams of weight or something. And it's the electricity from your brain going out and we don't know where it goes and some believe it could be a soul leaving.

But in my own personal feeling there is no ghost that will leave you at death. But otherwise the idea of a soul isn't entirely wrong it makes people try to be better people and that's always good.

 

[Abedeus]

Laughter is the language of soul. So people that can't laugh don't have souls.

We can easily say who doesn't have souls. Hitler didn't. Stalin didn't. A lot of people have them.

No. We do not.

If we did people would be selling them to the devil or some shit like that.

I think that anyone who would want to sell his soul would have a shitty soul. So Satan wouldn't want it.

If someone has a good soul... That's like having a good car - why sell it, if you are not sure how much will you get for it? If you have a bad car and still get a lot... Well, go for it.

Also, I do believe that devils from every religion are in other plane of existance.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Laughter is the language of soul. So people that can't laugh don't have souls.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_dennett_cute_sexy_sweet_funny.html

You might want to watch this. Dennett touches on humor at the end. It's explainable. No need to label it "the language of the soul."

 

[AdamAK]

Love is not a physical thing yet people know that exist, unless you are heartless cold prick.

It's nice to see someone FINALLY taking this thread seriously. Souls account for all the things that we as humans experience beyond basic physical desires and logical boundaries. I personally wish more people responding to this would take it seriously. But, in answer, yes, we do have souls, and that is the very reason why we, as humans, possess the gift of self-awareness, self-consciousness.

If you need proof, put a plate of chocolate cake in front of a human and an animal. Will the animal even pause to wonder how much fat is has in it? How it might make them fat or increase their cholesterol level? I wouldn't think so. Which is not to say that animals don't possess the physical feelings we humans do, but that they lack in that aforementioned gift of self-consciousness that we have. There IS no physical explanation for the self-consciousness that we possess; is it our brains? our hearts? No. Animals have those things too. The only explanation is that there must be something beyond our physical body to account for it, and that is what we call a soul.

Really, what the hell? Only in the past few decades have we learned something about our brains, and we're only beginning to understand the very basics of the human mind, and you're already coming with a conclusion that such things cannot be explained physically, and all research is pointless? Are you kidding me?

Yes, both humans and other animals have brains. Is the brain of a mouse equally large and refined as a human brain? I don't think so. Animals ( quite possibly ) do not care about things such as fat, simply because they don't know it exists. Just like people didn't really care about hygiene when they didn't know of bacteria.

As for the subject of love;

I beg to differ because love is something that goes beyond simple chemical reactions and brainwaves.

Holy shit, your analysis is amazing. "I don't agree with you, because I think it's different, for no damned reason." Please! Allow me to crown you King of the Internet! What's this? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheromone] Go troll some other forum, James Cassidy.

Stop making conclusions, people. Sure, you can come up with the good ol' "I believe there is a soul, but I/you can't (dis)prove it!". This is getting us nowhere. The likelyness of a soul existing is becoming smaller and smaller as we learn more about the functioning of brains.

 

[quack35]

I certainly hope so.