Spanish Judges Liken File Sharing to Lending Books

pyrus7

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I don't entirely agree with the judges' statements, but I can see why the defendants were not charged with copyright infringement. They were not the ones xeroxing their books for others, just the guys who ran the copy shop.
 

Jared

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AvsJoe said:
Oh man, I would definitely buy these judges a beer if I lived in Spain.
Much the same here! And I can see the point! Someone who has the sense to see what is going on!
 

pyrus7

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Wicky_42 said:
Then again, there's plenty of books I've read without paying for. Sure the physical copy's no longer in my possession but if I wanted it I could go and get it again for no cost. That's practically the point of libraries - to make it so you don't have to pay for books!
Technically you pay for the use of libraries through taxes. Just saying.
 

Broken Orange

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They got arrested in 2005 and they just made a ruling? Christ, they really dragged their heels on that one.
 

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AjimboB said:
Wow, I really don't know what to say. Who new the judges in Spain were so logical? I guess they've come a long way from the Spanish Inquisition.
Who would've expected?
NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

[sub]someone had to say it...[/sub]
It's actually NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

[sub]someone had to correct it...[/sub]

OT: I don't know what to say really. For one, I'm all for the freedom of the internet and file-sharing, but this decision and openly (and officially) stating, that file-sharing is like lending books could achieve the exact opposite reaction. I mean, copyright advocates and large companies will see this as a 'call to arms' to defend their intellectual property and will flood the media with arguments to the contrary, launching an anti-file-sharing avalanche of untold proportions. Don't forget, they literally own the media, so they can do it.

On the other hand, sticking to the book analogy, I would rather compare file sharing to a free printing press. It can make unlimited copies of the same book, same quality, without taking the original away. So the owner still has his book, but everyone can have a copy for free also. Just my thoughts, really.
 

Altorin

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I normally side on the side of pirates in instances like this, but I think the Judges are definitely wrong in this one.. It's an interesting precedent though
 

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thenumberthirteen said:
While I like internet freedom I don't really see the parallel to lending books as you still keep your copy of it, and it is sent to lots of different people who don't give it back.
My thoughts exactly. Those judges are... well.. wrong. It's not at all like lending a physical medium for data to somebody else, letting a friend borrow your PC/Hard Drive/Disk is that. This is totally different.

I try to respect other people's opinion and especially respect the laws laid down, but this 'opinion' of the judges is, as stated above, wrong. I can't see any other take on it.
 

Quaxar

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I guess that's something the Spanish Inquisition didn't expect! *ba-dush*
 

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Wicky_42 said:
Just think for a second about how libraries work - and yet writers keep going ;)
How come record companies argue that file sharing is "destroying the industry", are they really just being ultra-greedy?

Maybe they are, but then again, people do still physically buy CDs.
 

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Surely it's more like multiplying books and handing them out? When you lend a book, you no longer have it until it's given back to you. File sharing is like reaching into a magic hat and pulling out infinite supplies of the same thing.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
I'm torn, really.
On the one hand, awesome for freedom and all, on the other hand, artists can't make money off of things only a few people buy and the rest lend... or can they?

Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong.
I've began to think that clever product placement is the only way to make digital products worth making. (Until someone advertises a digital product in a digital product and an endless cycle begins.)
 

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I hope some big wigs in the industries followed this case. And I hope they decide to end piracy since obviously they aren't going to find any legal help whatsoever. Just shut her down. Oh that big game you have been waiting for is set to be released next month? Haha not anymore. Maybe that would put an end to this piracy doesn't hurt anyone nonsense when it starts hurting all of us.
 

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Angry Caterpillar said:
Well God damn it.

Frankly, I don't see it as lending books, unless you could magically xerox an entire book in five minutes indefinitely for all of your friends whenever you felt like it.
Sure you can do it, it's called Xerox :) (if it's a short book)

But seriously, I do NOT see piracy as "lending" because if it was lending, they would just LEND it to them.

When both people have a copy of it simultaneously, it's not lending anymore.

That said, GO SPAIN! I fully support being able people being able to play games they're curious about but not willing to buy for free. (not going to get into a "is piracy right/wrong? Debate, this is my viewpoint, and yes, I do believe people abuse file sharing when they pirate something they would have bought had they not been able to pirate, but every good thing has a potential for abuse, and I still believe overall it's a good thing)

This court case is sure to be followed by a "study" exclaiming: "BUT SPAIN! PIRACY COSTS US 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 DOLLARS A YEAR!"
 

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Already lots of comments about the inquisition on page one? I don't have anything to do other than say that these Spanish judges will burn in hell for their crimes against international copyright. Bobby Kotick needs to pay for his new yacht damn it.
 

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Beltom said:
What an interesting take on it. Kudos to these Spanish judges, there may yet be some people in authority who see sense.
AjimboB said:
Wow, I really don't know what to say. Who new the judges in Spain were so logical?
This just in: Spanish judges have also ruled that running gun battles are to be legally treated as paintball games - the only difference being the medium of exchange...