Spiderman 3 [PG-13]
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A couple points: Raimi didn't want venom in this movie; the studio forced him into it because it was the more marketable villain. Raimi wanted a symbiote spidey/sandman movie and if he had got what he wanted it's not hard to imagine a much better, less muddled movie. SONY RUINED SPIDEY3! not Raimi.
Point 2: The much hated Emo Jazz scene is the target of a lot of internet snark and fandom ridicule but not deservedly so. It's a scene that is incredibly similar to the "Raindrops are falling on my head" scene from Spidey 2 but that scene never is the target of snark.(the greatest comic book movie ever IMO) These scenes accomplish 3 things; firstly they show the audience where Parker is in his characer arc.(a state of happy delusion before his game-changing relization) Secondly they help ground the movie in it's tone.(the spidey movies are not starkly realistic like TDK, instead they're going for a hyper stylized campy escapism; these scenes remind the audience of that, which can be lost in all the more serious parts of the story, which are still campy, just more serious) Thirdly, they provide comic entertainment. THE SCENE WAS NOT OF PLACE IN THE MOVIE! which is the biggest complaint levied against it by fandom.
Point 2: The much hated Emo Jazz scene is the target of a lot of internet snark and fandom ridicule but not deservedly so. It's a scene that is incredibly similar to the "Raindrops are falling on my head" scene from Spidey 2 but that scene never is the target of snark.(the greatest comic book movie ever IMO) These scenes accomplish 3 things; firstly they show the audience where Parker is in his characer arc.(a state of happy delusion before his game-changing relization) Secondly they help ground the movie in it's tone.(the spidey movies are not starkly realistic like TDK, instead they're going for a hyper stylized campy escapism; these scenes remind the audience of that, which can be lost in all the more serious parts of the story, which are still campy, just more serious) Thirdly, they provide comic entertainment. THE SCENE WAS NOT OF PLACE IN THE MOVIE! which is the biggest complaint levied against it by fandom.
I disagree. It went completely against the grain of the movie, was poorly executed and painful to watch. An absolute atrocity of a scene that wasn't in any way funny, even ironically. I had my head in my hands throughout that entire section of the film, and judging by the audience's reactions after the film, I wasn't the only one.dcheppy said:
L. Wrex
Emo Peter Parker was painful to watch. The whole jazz bar scene was just... Ugh. Words cannot describe how much I hate that scene. And like the majority in here, the director made the same mistake as Michael Bay did with Transformers. Not enough screen time for Venom, like the Autobots and Decepticons took a back seat to the humans in the Transformers film.
Still waiting on Carnage, Mysterio or Lizard for Spidey 4.
Still waiting on Carnage, Mysterio or Lizard for Spidey 4.
I'm still waiting for my Maximium Carnage movie...Doc Theta Sigma said:
Spidey vs Venom vs Carnage...
Carnage would be an awesome addition. How do you mess up a schizophrenic, psychopathic, sociopathic murderer?! Oh wait...*sees Raimi's Venom again* *shudders*
L. Wrex
L. Wrex
Great read, maybe a little long, but I was entertained throughout...
Wish I could say the same about the movie, I completely agree with everything you said. It's a travesty.
@MrBrightside919
I don't think there can ever be a movie with Carnage in it... at least not one that could do it right. It'd be rated R and obscenely violent, haha. Venom will sit in a tree and wait for you to come to him... Carnage will chase you down the street, cursing, swearing, and killing/maiming anything in his way...
...On reflection, I can't wait either.
Wish I could say the same about the movie, I completely agree with everything you said. It's a travesty.
@MrBrightside919
I don't think there can ever be a movie with Carnage in it... at least not one that could do it right. It'd be rated R and obscenely violent, haha. Venom will sit in a tree and wait for you to come to him... Carnage will chase you down the street, cursing, swearing, and killing/maiming anything in his way...
...On reflection, I can't wait either.
If you mean Tobey MacGuire, he was a vegetarian during the filming of SM2. I only know that because in the scene where he is eating the hot dog, I heard some trivia that it was actually a tofu dog, since he was vegetarian and wouldn't eat a real hot dog.shannon_graz317 said:
as an action hero movie, S3 was pretty good, but compared to the first and (especially) the second, it was woeful. They decided it would be a good idea to introduce 3 villains in one movie, thereby giving none of them enough character development time (if any in venom's case). venom as well they just held up their sleeve for too long. add to this they spent far too much time on peter and MJ's relationship. i really dont care is much as they think i would.
If you really want to measure how bad this movie is just contrast its view of 'dark' to either of the new Batman films. Emo just isn't the way to go.