Spiderman 3: Why did it fail?

[theironbat46]

As we comic nerds know, We loved the Spiderman franchise. LOVED. Spiderman 1: Great, Something we all enjoyed. Spiderman 2: Better than the first, loved it. Spiderman 3: What. The. Hell.
So, first we have to examine what made the other 2 great. Brought something we loved to the big screen. Good action, everything. Now, what made it suck. I'll tell you what, writing. It wasn't the acting, directing, or Venom's scree-.. Wait, that is about 15% why it failed, but the other 85% was writing. Having Spiderman cry? Writing. Putting Venom in last minute? Writing! The black suit making you more flamboyant then evil? WRITING, WRITING, WRITING! Understand, they forced Venom in there, against The directors wishes. Topher Grace was good, you didn't see him enough to know and the whole movie sucked, so what did you expect. Writing makes or breaks a movie. This time it broke. Hard. Discuss your thoughts feelings and how you think they could better Spiderman 4, or should they reboot it? So, Discuss.

 

[DuplicateValue]

I'm gonna blame the embarrassingly lame dancing sequence in the middle, complete with emo make-up.

 

[Rednog]

Venom should've been a villain in his own movie and not tacked in with sandman.

 

[HardRockSamurai]

I don't think it was a bad movie. I just think the first two were a really hard act to follow.

Also, that emo dance scene was fucking stupid.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

The writers seemed to aim at a more comedic look on the Spiderman comics and while diffrent it is far from good. Personally, I thought it was so-so. One of those movies that had it's moments, but you never wanna see it again.

Plus, it paled in comparsion with the other two.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Because it was pretty rubbish.

 

[Julianking93]

Emo makeover
Dancing scene
Bullshit love story
Too many villains
sub par writing

 

[targren]

The fact that there wasn't a single goddamn character who didn't cry on-screen.

 

[mandrilltiger]

I think they should look at Marvel's recent re-imagining of the Spider-man series "Ultimate Spider-Man" and do what makes Spider-Man great. Spider-Man!!

He is one of the most human character in the comic book world when he stopped being Spider-Man you thought wow that's what I'd do but you rooted for him when he decided that he should be a hero again.

You pitted him because all he wanted was to see a play the stared a girl he loved but he couldn't because he had protect New York and if he told MJ she could be killed.

So in short in 1 and 2 Spider-Man was a hero. Not a Super hero. But a human hero that you could relate to and felt bad for.

I think they should do "Spider-Man 3: Can we try again?" because that way they might be able to "Un-Jump the Shark"

 

[heyheysg]

Redhead Gwen dyed blonde
Blonde Mary Jane dyed Red

WTF?

Plus mostly Sandman was a lame villan

 

[grimsprice]

To many villains and an extra hero at the end.

One at a time people. It just had to be all over the place to cover all the characters. A whole movie devoted to Venom, then a whole movie devoted to the second Goblin. Then a movie for Sandman. See that would work. But Mcgyvered all together they sucked ass.

 

[Misterian]

I didn't think Spider-Man 3 was bad, I thought it stumbled with how it screwed-up Sandman, but other than that, it was a pretty good film.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

Third one was mediocre. Although I liked the ending battle.

 

[Guy32]

I thought it was pretty good, besides the emo bar scene that you all have... kindly... reminded me of.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Venom is one of the most badass comic book characters ever (Right under Deadpool). He only got like 15 mins of screentime. FUCK THAT

 

[Zetsubou]

They tried to shove too much shit in it, and ultimately failed. There were some parts that were way too hard to follow; the parasite got one bit of screen time, then came back 20 minutes later. That's not good storytelling.

 

[Crapster]

The fact that they made Sandman his Uncle's killer.
I think it's very important to Spider-Man's character that his uncle's killer is also the theif that he lets escape. It just weakens his origin and therefore his character to have it be otherwise...

 

[Wait...What]

I thought it was a good movie (not great) but i think it was hindred due to the fact it tried to wrap everything up. The end was really rushed and kind of didnt seem to fit the pace of the rest of the film. Maybe becuase they forced venom in there against Sam Raimi's Wishes. The man made evil dead for crying out loud let him do what he wants, if he thinks the movie will be good without venom it probally will. Catering for fans never works, they all end up bitching in the end.

 

[Jark212]

I'm gonna blame the embarrassingly lame dancing sequence in the middle, complete with emo make-up.

This definitely played a huge role in my hatred of Spiderman 3. Not only was that too silly, but a lot of the drama started to feel really cheesy.

Venom was thrown in last minute? That explains a lot.

*shudders*
That was sheer horror, I was embarrassed to be in the theaters...

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

It failed for one reason. It went away from the comics. All the stuff in the first two films is pretty much there in the comics at some point. But in the third film they went off on their own tangents. Shoehorning the Sandman into Spiderman's origin story for no reason. The Gwen Stacy nonsense, just because the fans knew the name. If they wanted a Gwen Stacy character she should have been introduced in the first two films. And what the hell is up with the Sandman running in an open field and he just happens to fall into some weird physics experiment. Yikes that's lame.

The saddest thing is that as bad as it was it all could have worked if they had used it properly and left Venom out of the story. Spidey should have used the Black Suit to defeat Sandman. Then he realizes it's "taking over", does the bit with the church bell, fade to black, roll credits, Venom is set up for the next film and everything is tied up nicely.

Instead it's a cinematic train wreck. And the saddest thing is that it starts out strong with the New Goblin arc. And that wicked scene where Sandman is trying to regain his constitution. Then it just fizzles and turns into Emo Peter's Day Out.