Spiderman 4 cancelled...... WHY!!!!?

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Hiphophippo

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Mildly on topic, I heard Robert Patterson is either going to be, or is in a movie about Varg Vikerson.

That's an almost inhuman amount of lulz.
 

WolfThomas

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LordNue said:
...Spiderman-peterparker+unrelated superheroes=good movie? That is a stupid idea.
Sorry I phrased that wrong, I don't want Wolverine in a spiderman movie, I meant i would like them both to appear in an avenger movie.

What I would like is something like the Iron Man where Shield operatives or Nick Fury are paying an interest in him, but not the major plot. Perhaps Nick Fury and shield are buying weapons/tech from Osborn, Spiderman foils him as the Green Goblin and also reveals the evil stuff Norman's doing to shield. Nick Fury is then shown looking at dossiers or something about Spiderman.

I want less peter, not no Peter Parker, Spiderman 2 and 3 were like 70% Peter being stressed/poor/emo. So have your scenes where you set him up at the start, a few ones showing the impact of the career, but keep it streamlined.

CroMagnon said:
Wolvie origins killed wolvirine, remember?

If Spiderman gets a reboot, its gotta have that crocodile faced guy. That guy was awesome.
I have never heard of this film, is it like the rumored sequels to the matrix, Aliens 3 and prequels for star wars? Because I believe those films do not exist.
 
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deofayte said:
If this is the truth, a little part of me will die on the inside, painfully.
I'm with this guy. I'm not a hardcore fan of Spiderman or anything, but I still found them entertaining and this will just be sad. Also, welcome to the Escapist.
 

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read MovieBob's article about it that was released today. He has the scoop, or at least as much of the scoop as you can get right now.
 

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Sasquatch99 said:
Why not?
And never believe rumours. They tend to be of questionable quality.
This.

Plus there was nothing ever very special about the Spiderman movies and Spiderman 3 proved Tobey Maguire sucks as an actor. That may be an unfair statement but that's the way I see it.
 

WolfThomas

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LordNue said:
What do you have against Alien 3?
Nothing as it doesn't exist.

But if it did it would be because it killed off Hicks and Newt right at the start and involved a bald Sigourny running around a crappy prison planet being chased by an alien singular, where as the sequel had many Aliens (whence the name).

Also because the original plan for the movie, was them all returning to earth, which has bladerunner style megacities (the ones with mysterious steam coming from everywhere). Where the Aliens get into the sewers breed massive numbers and eventually swarm up to take over the world. The only thing in their way? Battalions of Colonial Marines fighting them for every inch of the planet. The only problem is they didn't have the money or effects for this.

I don't mind Alien Resurrection though...

Sasquatch99 said:
And never believe rumours. They tend to be of questionable quality.
I love rumors! Facts can be so misleading, where rumors, true or false, are often revealing.
 

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The big studio remembered what crap number three was and decided not to shame themselves and the Marvel name any further. But if the rumor you state is true then i'll not give it a moment of my time to waste because Mr. Fagginson will probably not chase Mary Jane and instead try to get into Harry's pants, then leave him as well
 

WolfThomas

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LordNue said:
: ) Your opinion doesn't matter now.
I'm going to take that in a lighthearted humourous way (thank you smiley).

But while Alien Resurrection wasn't a great movie (or even a good movie) it had a fun rag tag group of space scoundrels (with Ron Mother-flippin' Perlman) fighting a lot of aliens. Sure I'd probably never watch it a second time, but I enjoyed it far more than 3 (especially as I watched it after 3).
 

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They want more.... MONEY!

Too many greasy 40 year old with limited allowences were going to these movies and not enough pre pubesent little girls and teen girls with dispoable income were watching

Its Toonami all over again (starts crying) 9/20/08 Never Forget!!!

[http://photobucket.com/images/toonami]
 

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According to the column [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/moviebob/7014-Spider-Man-No-More] MovieBob wrote about this, Sam Raimi got into a bit of a scuffle with Sony Pictures over creative control issues, namely the villains that would appear in Spider-Man 4. Venom's inclusion in 3 was entirely the fault of the studio and Raimi apparently wasn't about to let his vision be screwed over again.

Honestly, Spider-Man 4 being canceled isn't the absolute worst thing that could happen. They could easily diverge from the whole numerical route and start subtitling the movies directed by people other than Sam Raimi (The Amazing/Spectacular Spider-Man, Web of Spider-Man, Spider-Man Unlimited, etc). Taking the franchise back to its beginnings for a "grim and gritty" reboot, though? Eugh. Count me out.

Like MovieBob said, we'll probably all live to see good Spider-Man movies again. We'll just have to endure some terrible ones in the meantime.
 

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Red Hood said:
Why did they cancel Spiderman 4?
for the record? the movie was canceled cause sony decided it needed to have the movie in 3D despite all the work that had already gone into it. Raimi couldn't do anything decent within the time frame and sony were apparently being pricks about the whole thing, so he walked.

go kill whoever at sony demanded the 3D if you want to kill someone, but really, did you actually WANT to see another after 3? I'm pretty lenient on movie quality and I know nothing of the spiderman plot, but that movie was terrible...
 

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GODoftheRIGOVERSE said:
They want more.... MONEY!

Too many greasy 40 year old with limited allowences were going to these movies and not enough pre pubesent little girls and teen girls with dispoable income were watching

Its Toonami all over again (starts crying) 9/20/08 Never Forget!!!

[http://photobucket.com/images/toonami]
i miss toonami:(
 

WolfThomas

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LordNue said:
Nope, anyone who values the abortion that is resurrection above even 3 is rendered invalid.
Man Cracked has ruined me, http://www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/, even though this isn't really serious, in this thread I've noticed myself use 3 and 9. As well as your recent use of 4 just then.

Weren't we talking about Spiderman at one point...?
 

WolfThomas

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LordNue said:
I'm going to have to add linking to cracked as something to start making me ignore anything anyone says. It's a funny site but linking to it is about as retarded as linking to a meme of any kind.

The spiderman discussion never really existed. It's been answered why Spiderman 4 was canceled. The third one sucked.
Fair enough, but it's just an accurate look at the most common techniques people use to argue on the internet. Now that I've read I can't help noticing when myself or others use (albeit far less extreme) examples of these.

Okay so question answered, I guess we can all go home now...

Anyone up for ping-pong?
 

Red Hood

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YES, YES, GOD YES!! I wanted to see the Spiderman 4 movie. It could have redeemed 3, but now we will never know. I don't think its fair for you to basically say "big deal" when you're not familiar with the material. Did you see "Deadpool" (a.k.a Barakapool) in Origins? Did you see how they slandered Alan Moore's message in Watchmen? I'm sorry but this is the straw that breaks the camel's back.
 

JaredXE

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Because the studio (the people with the money) wanted something, and Raimi threw a tantrum. So they fired his ass.