Split-Screen Co-op

CyanideSandwich

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Why is it that ever since Live came out on the original X-box that split-screen co-op has been all but scrapped? I've had my xbox 360 for a couple of years now and I've never been online. I have my reasons for this, by the way, so don't turn this into a thread composed entirely of people yelling and laughing and pointing because I'm in the 0.1% of us that don't have Live.

I'm mainly referring to 4 player co-op which most games claim to have offline... Then I realise they meant "System Link". Take HAWX 2 for example: on the back, in green (non-Live) writing, it says "2-4 co-op". When I go into the game I see you have to have your xbox connected to another via system link.

Also, Left 4 dead. When this came out I instantly thought: "4 characters? A 4 in the title? On a system that can connect 4 controllers at once? But it's only 1-2 player? What the hell?

No-one uses system link. You know why? Because no-one has another x-box, another copy of the same game and an ethernet cord lying around.

On an unrelated note, Star Wars Battlefront 3. Why was it abandoned? Didn't another company pick it up after Pandemic died?
 

DeadlyYellow

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COD: Black Ops has splitscreen multiplayer. Online too.

Dunno how many players it allows for, but is pretty nice playing online alongside people in the same room.
 

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Mostly, I'd guess, because of hardware issues.

Most games nowadays (I'm looking at you, Reach) can suck the impressive hardware behind the 360 to the floor at certain points in the campaign.

Now, multiply that by 4...
 

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The day fighting games lose same screen multiplayer and only does online is the day we reach the lowest point.
 

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I miss being able to get three of my friends together and spend all night playing games on the couch. the only games I can still that with are Scott Pilgrim, super smash bros. and when I get it, the new goldeneye.

by the way, why is 4-way split-screen gone? I mean, the average household has a bigger tv than it did 10 years ago. I remember playing goldeneye 64 on a little 18in tube tv with four players and having a great time.
 

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Well it makes the company more money, now everyone has to buy a copy if they want to play with there friends. That or because games have become more advanced, it is more difficult to create the same experience with multiple people on one system and TV. Those are the only reasons I can think of right now.
 

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Totally agreed. I Never really got around to playing any four player split-screen games, beside Mario Kart. But you think they'd be doing this more what with the advances of TV screen size and most games having multiple people with you at all times, although a good point was raised earlier of video game companies being money whores. (re-worded)
 

The Cheezy One

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Benn_Walden said:
Totally agreed. I Never really got around to playing any four player split-screen games, beside Mario Kart. But you think they'd be doing this more what with the advances of TV screen size and most games having multiple people with you at all times, although a good point was raised earlier of video game companies being money whores. (re-worded)
First post congratulations!

With current day visuals being cluttered, the average tv size divided by 4 gives a very small amount of space for each player to game with

The system link thing does annoy me, but it must make gaming great - the ability to talk to the person in the same building, but still have a full screen to yourself.
 

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In response to the unrelated topic, seriously, why was Battlefront 3 dropped? Is it going to take the 15 years it took for a new Duke Nukem game before we get SW:Battlefront 3?
 

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Simple. HUDs, and the fact very few games can get away with it nowadays.

That said, Modern Warfare 2 was good fun with a couple of my buddies in split-screen.
 

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I know, right? Well, split-screen is enabled for a lot of games I own. But most of them don't go past 2-player. But surely you understand that enough people have LIVE to make developers think that they don't need to do split-screen, you know? It's the same reason why VHS's aren't being made anymore. And in a couple of years, I feel that DVD's will follow suit to blu-ray. And I don't know anything about Battlefront 3.
 

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natster43 said:
Well it makes the company more money, now everyone has to buy a copy if they want to play with there friends.
Exactiment.

If four people can play on one console, they don't need to buy it. At least, that appears to be the logic.

There's money in the current system, for whatever reason.
 

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CyanideSandwich said:
Why is it that ever since Live came out on the original X-box that split-screen co-op has been all but scrapped? I've had my xbox 360 for a couple of years now and I've never been online. I have my reasons for this, by the way, so don't turn this into a thread composed entirely of people yelling and laughing and pointing because I'm in the 0.1% of us that don't have Live.
It was actually more like 33% which is more than I thought, the last time I checked anyway (30mil xboxs with 20mil people on live) or something like that, it had a 30 and a 20 or 300 and 200.... whatever.

OT I think they just want us to buy about 4 consoles per house and a disk per console...
 

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I do have live, but I spend a lot of time in split screen with friends.

I recommend: Gears of War 2 (2 player split), Halo Reach (4 player split), Rainbow Six Vegas 1 or 2 (2 player split), Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2 (4 player split), Rockstar's Table Tennis (2 player but short games so frequent switchouts), Castle Crashers (4 player, if you can hack the repetitive gameplay and graphics), Geometry Wars (4 player, absolute epic, a must have).

I too share your woes re lack of splitscreen/ one console multiplayer support. At least recent titles like Halo Reach still cater for us, eh.
 

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AjimboB said:
DeadlyYellow said:
COD: Black Ops has splitscreen multiplayer. Online too.

Dunno how many players it allows for, but is pretty nice playing online alongside people in the same room.
Is that in matchmaking, or only in private matches?
It is in both, though in MM your guest starts with nothing unlocked, no guns or perks or anything, so tends to get shafted quite a lot.
 

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AjimboB said:
DeadlyYellow said:
COD: Black Ops has splitscreen multiplayer. Online too.

Dunno how many players it allows for, but is pretty nice playing online alongside people in the same room.
Is that in matchmaking, or only in private matches?
Both. We usually joined in a Team Deathmatch game, but did a few private runs of Zombies as well. Online you are given all the unlocked content of the main account. Haven't done enough tinkering to find if you can play separate account online or no.
 

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AjimboB said:
DeadlyYellow said:
COD: Black Ops has splitscreen multiplayer. Online too.

Dunno how many players it allows for, but is pretty nice playing online alongside people in the same room.
Is that in matchmaking, or only in private matches?
It's in matchmaking and private matches up to 2 players, wish it wa 4 but 2 is still good.

DANG NINJAS! XD