*spoilers* Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

[antipunt]

For those of you who have beaten the game, I have some questions.
I just finished CH 5, and I have to say, the game is super fun. But some things confuse me here:

So in the end of Chapter 5 you're given two options, either protecting kyoko or protecting yourself.
the true, good ending is protecting kyoko. Alter Ego saves you at the last minute, and kyoko somehow manages to sneak through the garbage chute.

But if you don't protect kyoko, kyoko gets smashed.

So two questions

1. Why didn't Alter Ego save Kyoko in the bad end route?

2. DID Kyoko realize Alter Ego was going to save you? For some reason, it felt like she didn't; as in it was a last minute kind of thing. If that's the case, she was willing to let you die?? Kind of messed up?

 

[SweetShark]

Great game indeed and I hope to enjoy it as well aside some problem it have.

1. I supposed the developers wanted a more different kind of bad ending I guess...no real reason I think.

2. Without looking a wiki [because spoilers for the sequels], I think you are right. Kyoko just wanted to find the truth a in the progress, she was willing to kill you to reveal it.
However sacrificing you means saving the others, so I guess it make "sense", right?

 

[SweetShark]

1. I think it was implied that it only played out in Makoto's head.

2. Oh, hell no. And she knew that you would die if you helped her. She's kind of the worst character in the game like that, and she's also seemingly the writers favourite. It's even worse when she comes to help you in the garbage heap, and she almost does a half-hearted apology for willingly letting you die, but protag goes "nah, you're cool & smart". And everyone else who voted you to die is like "hey, what's up" when you meet them.

That game is not very well written, I'd even go as far to say it's quite poor on that front. Very style over substance. Just wait until you get to the final boss, you'll either love it (in your case, it sounds like you will), lots of flair to it, or think it's the most spastic, waif garbage anime thing ever (like I did, and I wanted to like the game).

So I was right as well....
Yeah, the major problem the game have is the characters are either very stupid [especially the last chapter] or very big assholes.
Plus the final mistery at some point become very VERY stupid!!! Like, the answer is so clear who is the culpist that make you tear your hairs from your head!

 

[Pirate Of PC Master race]

For those of you who have beaten the game, I have some questions.
I just finished CH 5, and I have to say, the game is super fun. But some things confuse me here:

So in the end of Chapter 5 you're given two options, either protecting kyoko or protecting yourself.
the true, good ending is protecting kyoko. Alter Ego saves you at the last minute, and kyoko somehow manages to sneak through the garbage chute.

But if you don't protect kyoko, kyoko gets smashed.

So two questions

1. Why didn't Alter Ego save Kyoko in the bad end route?

2. DID Kyoko realize Alter Ego was going to save you? For some reason, it felt like she didn't; as in it was a last minute kind of thing. If that's the case, she was willing to let you die?? Kind of messed up?

1. What is your talant again? If you play Danganronpa 2... you can reference to how... *effective* Makoto's talant really can be.

2. No.
If she knew, she wouldn't say she needed to *atone for her action* after she went into garbage pit later.
Nor she had any way of knowing how powerful Makoto's talant really is.
She also knew that monokuma was willing to kill anyone who messed with him.(in fact, she is the only one who knew this.)
Therefore, I must conclude she had intentional desire to sacrifice Makoto for the pursuit of the truth.

 

[antipunt]

Ah ok, thanks that essentially answers my questions.

Also, with regards to morality, I suppose Kyoko didn't really have any choice. Still, I thought it would've been pretty cool if the 'correct' choice was to press the truth. In my mind, telling the truth meant that you 'believed in kyoko', in that she had some sort of backup, but she only would've been able to 'reveal' this backup if you pressed her enough (or something along those lines). But then again, she did heavily emphasize that she was 'trapped' or something, but making a conscious choice to be a martyr is kind of bad taste and weird imo (considering that the game's over-arching theme is not to be a pushover, or at least what it seemed to be saying)

 

[Protocol95]

I don't believe Kyoko had any intention of sacrificing Makoto. She lied about the key, but only so she could not implicate herself and continue trying to expose whatever trap had been set. Makoto was only found guilty because Byakuya tried to think of the best answer he could, then Monokuma suddenly declared time up when there hadn't been anything like that before and without any choice, everyone went with the best answer they could see. At the very least that's how I see it and I could be wrong.

 

[antipunt]

I don't believe Kyoko had any intention of sacrificing Makoto. She lied about the key, but only so she could not implicate herself and continue trying to expose whatever trap had been set. Makoto was only found guilty because Byakuya tried to think of the best answer he could, then Monokuma suddenly declared time up when there hadn't been anything like that before and without any choice, everyone went with the best answer they could see. At the very least that's how I see it and I could be wrong.

That's an interesting idea. I never thought of it that way, but it makes total sense. It did seem kind of OOC that Kyoko would so easily sacrifice the MC, and the trial did end prematurely.

 

[FillerDmon]

I've been heavily turned off by the series, at least after getting to the end and starting on the 2nd (not counting the gaiden games), but my take on it was that Kyoko had literally no control, nor any intention, of letting Makoto die. Monakuma basically started cheating by that point. And I believe everyone assumed Alter Ego dead, so the first scenario most likely was just Makoto's brief imagining of what would happen if he'd busted her alibi.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

1. Why didn't Alter Ego save Kyoko in the bad end route?

2. DID Kyoko realize Alter Ego was going to save you? For some reason, it felt like she didn't; as in it was a last minute kind of thing. If that's the case, she was willing to let you die?? Kind of messed up?

1. Two explanations:
a) Makoto basically imagines that bad ending scenario, even imagining that the Fortune Teller dude actually DOES have children with the same woman as him.
b) Makoto's "lucky" talent really is that freakin' strong.

2. Kyoko totally knew it was coming, although she hoped to find a way to get Makoto out of it before it came to that. Sadly, Monokuma got fed up by that point and just ended the trial right there, preventing any last second arguments for his safety from happening.

I was pretty pissed at her too, but given Makoto survived and she DID come down to save him and bust Monokuma's scheme wide open, I was willing to forgive her, but just barely. Then again, I forgave the person who messed everything up in Case 4 despite that being even less forgivable, so maybe I'm just a big softie.