Sporehammer 40k

[thiosk]

If you are anything like me, Spore was a big, big dissapointment. I tend to enjoy sim games, and I love 4x strategy games (especially the space-faring variety).

I was thinking about what would make the Warhammer 40k game I wanted to play, and I thought about it and realized: if Spore was a warhammer 40k sim instead of a life sim, it would be amazing.

The imperium is both vast and degenerate-- nothing really changes much, it just grinds in perpetual war. If you had a game that was simulating that, you'd pretty much have the Grox in the spore galaxy; occupying space, and shooting at you. So take out the procedural critters (or leave them in?) and add warhammer art and units. Give the player control over some faction-- like, the grey knights or something, and just kinda go out and carve yourself a slice of some part of the galaxy in an RTS style... purging some heretics here, plastering some tyranids there, conquering this or that and increasing your influence.

Or maybe just go in and detail all your troops and edit their appearance. Or search for wargear and necron tombworlds on distant worlds. Or bomb titans from orbit. Or go look at that dyson sphere with the C'Tan in it.

Spore is on the perfect "time scheme" to allow for a sim like that, and I would play the shit out of a sandbox warhammer.

Feel free to say yay or nay, or post what you think would salvage spore and turn it into something awesome.

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

My thoughts exactly on the matter.
I want a game like that

 

[DarkLordofDevon]

Ever heard of 'Dawn of War' my friend?

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

Ever heard of 'Dawn of War' my friend?

it's a poor substitute for a game like this.
I've played it so much... it's just boring now...
But if there was a game where you control the Navy and Guard... and all other little aspects...

I was thinking of getting Sins Of A Solar Empire. it's meant to be something like that...

 

[Judgedread]

Ever heard of 'Dawn of War' my friend?

I think he wants something on a much larger scale.

OT: I would love to play something like that, spore was a good idea just so lack luster once you got to the later stages of the game.

 

[thiosk]

At the galactic scale, I didn't even care that I could see the critters, and didn't much care what happened to my colonies, or my neighbor's colonies... I spent more time rotating the galaxy around then I did zoomed in, abducting animals.

Also, a sporified Star Control II sequel would be mind numbingly awesome.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Ever heard of 'Dawn of War' my friend?

I think he wants something on a much larger scale.

OT: I would love to play something like that, spore was a good idea just so lack luster once you got to the later stages of the game.

I can dig it.
I kind of thought Soulstorm would be like that but it just ended up being Dark Crusade but with less variations: races never left their planet making most battlefields the same each playthrough.

 

[Captain Pancake]

That sounds very intriguing. The spore space stage soaked up many hours of my life, but there was always something missing. Maybe wandering the galaxy as an inquisitor would fill that gap?

 

[Kollega]

Warhammer 40.000 4X strategy would be rather appropriate,BUT.

There is a slight problem - GRIMDAKR Warp Travel undermines whole concept. For most factions,there is no reliable FTL to speak of. As a result,LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. I can hardly imagine 4X strategy without easy logistics. It would be rather frustrating to lose all your worlds to Eldar or Tau because the player/AI behind them exploits his FTL better than you can.

 

[thiosk]

Warhammer 40.000 4X strategy would be rather appropriate,BUT.

There is a slight problem - GRIMDAKR Warp Travel undermines whole concept. For most factions,there is no reliable FTL to speak of. As a result,LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. I can hardly imagine 4X strategy without easy logistics. It would be rather frustrating to lose all your worlds to Eldar or Tau because the player/AI behind them exploits his FTL better than you can.

I was thinking that at first, too. However, thats when I realized that the spore-style '4x' would work fine. In spore, no one is really making a concerted effort to attack your worlds. You get nasty pop-up messages periodically, so imagine that would be some chaos cults found here or there, or an orc hulk shows up and drops a hollowed out asteroid on the planet, but I would imagine it as sort of internally simulated, with factions just grinding against eachother, with no side (apart from the player) really making galactic scale progress.

So the player could go sailing through the warp and explore it (i imagine a purple ocean with currents that you have to navigate, and time becomes a nonissue since everyone lives for centuries in the 40k universe (except for the ones who die horribly)

Perhaps I just want full control over the universe and its simulation... having a button the player could hit, "send a hive fleet my way," well, that would be just awesome to see how long you could last against behemoth with only your group of the grey knights.

That sounds very intriguing. The spore space stage soaked up many hours of my life, but there was always something missing. Maybe wandering the galaxy as an inquisitor would fill that gap?

Yeah, i think the problem was... it just wasn't interesting in spore. nothing cool to collect except penis monsters, really. Finding some item on some world isn't interesting, but pulling an awesome maul out of a necron tombworld...

yeah

nice

 

[Last of the Chinchillas]

You know, I never played Spore. And I know very little about the Warhammer 40k games.

But you've intrigued me, and I find myself salivating in delight at the prospect of such a grand undertaking.