Star Citizen's Squadron 42 Delayed to 2017

[Dynamo9876]

It?s not worth following these ?news? pieces on Star Citizen, regardless of which side of the argument you stand on. Those of us who follow and believe in the project know that it will be amazing when it?s finished and are more than willing to wait the extra time required for its development, and those who aren?t following it will continue to doubt that it will ever be completed, despite the evidence to the contrary, and likely won?t care to ever try it out anyway, either in its current playable state or when all of its planned features are up and running. There?s absolutely nothing that one side can do or say to change the mind of the other side. As a backer of this project I admit that I am biased in my opinion that Star Citizen will not only be finished, but that it will be one of the greatest games to ever be made and may very well effect the industry standards of game development, but the truth of the matter is nothing anyone says in the meantime matters in the slightest. The game will speak for itself when it?s done, it?s as simple as that.

In short to my fellow backers, just ignore these articles. It?s not worth the drama, and we all know where the important news of Star Citizen?s development comes from anyway.

 

[Michael Navas]

Escapist article "debunked".

https://www.spj.org/kunkel-winners.asp

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/09/26/the-24-year-feud-that-has-dogged-star-citizen

 

[Ghost1800]

And here I was hoping that the Escapist and CIG had come to some sort of understanding to forget the other's existence for both their sakes.

Where was the article from their last presentation? Whatever you think of the company producing it, it's not hard to imagine how what they've shown even this far could be applied into some pretty interesting games. Planetary scale exploration? Try at least a solar system.

For all the interest in innovation in gaming, not a whole lot of people seem interested when it actually shows up. Whether it flops or not, I bet someone will be able to use the tech developed in this project farther down the line.

 

[Dalisclock]

few areas that are lacking such as AI logic and mission integration.

So... the enemy doesn't do anything and nothing ties the otherwise random missions together? Also looks to be released as episodic content?

Remind me as to why people are dedicating thousands of their presumably hard earned dollars in funding this pos?

*Channels SC uberfan*
You don't get it man! This delay just means it's gonna be even more perfect then it already was gonna be. You'll see, hater.

 

[Clankenbeard]

Escapist article "debunked".
https://www.spj.org/kunkel-winners.asp
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/09/26/the-24-year-feud-that-has-dogged-star-citizen

"Debunked" indeed. Thank you for those. I just read through the Kotaku article (about 20,000 words worth). I now have a little better understanding of Chris Roberts' and Derek Smart's history and motivations. And I know that the CryEngine is a very likely a crippling framework for an massive multiplayer. I wish them well. But, I have (better-informed now) reservations that it will not go well.

 

[Laughing Man]

Don't forget that you as a backer then get the privilege of buying a ticket to said con to find out if they've actually done anything or not with the game in the past 6 months!

No way, that sounds like a fantastic opportunity, you know what it sounds like such a bargain that next year I will make sure I buy two tickets after I've dropped a grand on a, only limited by a number in a download database, 'limited edition' ship.

 

[Floppertje]

And here I was hoping that the Escapist and CIG had come to some sort of understanding to forget the other's existence for both their sakes.

Where was the article from their last presentation? Whatever you think of the company producing it, it's not hard to imagine how what they've shown even this far could be applied into some pretty interesting games. Planetary scale exploration? Try at least a solar system.

For all the interest in innovation in gaming, not a whole lot of people seem interested when it actually shows up. Whether it flops or not, I bet someone will be able to use the tech developed in this project farther down the line.

At least there's someone with some common sense around here. Yeah, it's going to take a long timebut it IS going to release. If I were the Escapist I'd spend more time worrying about if I was still around to review it when it does rather than engage in one-sided tabloid level journalism

 

[RedDeadFred]

And here I was hoping that the Escapist and CIG had come to some sort of understanding to forget the other's existence for both their sakes.

Where was the article from their last presentation? Whatever you think of the company producing it, it's not hard to imagine how what they've shown even this far could be applied into some pretty interesting games. Planetary scale exploration? Try at least a solar system.

For all the interest in innovation in gaming, not a whole lot of people seem interested when it actually shows up. Whether it flops or not, I bet someone will be able to use the tech developed in this project farther down the line.

If I were the Escapist I'd spend more time worrying about if I was still around to review it when it does rather than engage in one-sided tabloid level journalism

Well it brought you to the article, and all of their Star Citizen stuff seems to get a great deal clicks more than a lot of other stuff, so I'd say they're making sound business decisions by posting these "one-sided tabloid level" articles. I'm sure you won't click on any future SC articles though

One thing I'll definitely agree with you on though, is that the Escapist will probably not be around when this game is finally released.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

This isn't at all surprising. The whole development process so far just brings to mind the mental image of a small child attempting to fit an entire cake into their mouth in one go.

I think it's kind of funny how many anti-fans of the game there seem to be on the Escapist, however. I guess it's because an Escapist article brought a fan crusade over to the forums?

Remind me as to why people are dedicating thousands of their presumably hard earned dollars in funding this pos?

Optimism, a sunk cost fallacy, and maybe even just to increase the chances of the game existing in a playable form at some point. I won't lie; the idea of Star Citizen is enticing enough that I can understand an investor operating at a personal loss simply to bring the whole thing into existence.

I mean, Monty Python and the Holy Grail was headed for the trashcan mid-production until one of the Beatles invested a million dollars on the basis that he just really wanted to see the movie. I can agree with that logic.

 

[Floppertje]

And here I was hoping that the Escapist and CIG had come to some sort of understanding to forget the other's existence for both their sakes.

Where was the article from their last presentation? Whatever you think of the company producing it, it's not hard to imagine how what they've shown even this far could be applied into some pretty interesting games. Planetary scale exploration? Try at least a solar system.

For all the interest in innovation in gaming, not a whole lot of people seem interested when it actually shows up. Whether it flops or not, I bet someone will be able to use the tech developed in this project farther down the line.

If I were the Escapist I'd spend more time worrying about if I was still around to review it when it does rather than engage in one-sided tabloid level journalism

Well it brought you to the article, and all of their Star Citizen stuff seems to get a great deal clicks more than a lot of other stuff, so I'd say they're making sound business decisions by posting these "one-sided tabloid level" articles. I'm sure you won't click on any future SC articles though

One thing I'll definitely agree with you on though, is that the Escapist will probably not be around when this game is finally released.

Well, damn. You have me there XD I'll admit to getting mad when reading it but I do read it. The featured content seems to be very much lacking though, that box is looking a lot emptier than it did a while ago. So many shows scratched or left. I think that 'traditional games media', is on its way out. It's easier and more profitable for a critic to just get a patreon and do their stuff on youtube rather than let a magazine have a slice of their pie. That only works if the reviewer is prolific/good enough to get enough support for that to work, but that in turn means the good ones to go youtube or their own site while the magazines get stuck with the more mediocre ones who wouldn't make it on their own. When you write for a physical paper you can't very well start your own, on the internet that's different.

 

[RedDeadFred]

And here I was hoping that the Escapist and CIG had come to some sort of understanding to forget the other's existence for both their sakes.

Where was the article from their last presentation? Whatever you think of the company producing it, it's not hard to imagine how what they've shown even this far could be applied into some pretty interesting games. Planetary scale exploration? Try at least a solar system.

For all the interest in innovation in gaming, not a whole lot of people seem interested when it actually shows up. Whether it flops or not, I bet someone will be able to use the tech developed in this project farther down the line.

If I were the Escapist I'd spend more time worrying about if I was still around to review it when it does rather than engage in one-sided tabloid level journalism

Well it brought you to the article, and all of their Star Citizen stuff seems to get a great deal clicks more than a lot of other stuff, so I'd say they're making sound business decisions by posting these "one-sided tabloid level" articles. I'm sure you won't click on any future SC articles though

One thing I'll definitely agree with you on though, is that the Escapist will probably not be around when this game is finally released.

Well, damn. You have me there XD I'll admit to getting mad when reading it but I do read it. The featured content seems to be very much lacking though, that box is looking a lot emptier than it did a while ago. So many shows scratched or left. I think that 'traditional games media', is on its way out. It's easier and more profitable for a critic to just get a patreon and do their stuff on youtube rather than let a magazine have a slice of their pie. That only works if the reviewer is prolific/good enough to get enough support for that to work, but that in turn means the good ones to go youtube or their own site while the magazines get stuck with the more mediocre ones who wouldn't make it on their own. When you write for a physical paper you can't very well start your own, on the internet that's different.

While I may not share your annoyance with those types of articles (though I willingly admit that indulging in the drama is a bit of a guilty pleasure), I agree with everything you just said. The internet is changing and I don't think the Escapist can realistically adapt. It's probably too late.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Monty Python and the Holy Grail was headed for the trashcan mid-production until one of the Beatles invested a million dollars on the basis that he just really wanted to see the movie. I can agree with that logic.

I don't know about you, but if Star Citizen turns out to only be a model, I won't be disappointed.

 

[MatParker116]

Vaporware territory now surely?

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

I'm not surprised.

I hope the game eventually comes out and is good, but...The more I hear, the more I shake my head and feel bad about the whole ordeal. Space sim fans deserve better.

(That and I still have not found that perfect space sim that works for me, so I was hoping this one would be good. Every one that I've played has had some flaw that keeps me from really enjoying it, or it devolves into the same-old-same-old after a few hours because everything is the same regardless of where you go in the universe. I'm beginning to wonder if space sims are actually "for me", despite how much I love coasting around in a space ship. >_>)

 

[ebalosus]

Curious how this article is still up but not the one linked near the bottom...

 

[Avnger]

Curious how this article is still up but not the one linked near the bottom...

Why is that curious? Was Squadron 42 not delayed into 2017? Is there anything factually wrong with this article?

Hell, even the sentence where the now-removed article is linked is factually correct. Star Citizen has had a number of development woes.

 

[ebalosus]

Curious how this article is still up but not the one linked near the bottom...

Why is that curious? Was Squadron 42 not delayed into 2017? Is there anything factually wrong with this article?

Hell, even the sentence where the now-removed article is linked is factually correct. Star Citizen has had a number of development woes.

That was my main point: where did those articles go? Not only them, but also the clarification on where they got their sources, and a podcast wherein they talk about said woes. Hopefully Derek Smart will shed some light on what's going on...

 

[Avnger]

Curious how this article is still up but not the one linked near the bottom...

Why is that curious? Was Squadron 42 not delayed into 2017? Is there anything factually wrong with this article?

Hell, even the sentence where the now-removed article is linked is factually correct. Star Citizen has had a number of development woes.

That was my main point: where did those articles go? Not only them, but also the clarification on where they got their sources, and a podcast wherein they talk about said woes. Hopefully Derek Smart will shed some light on what's going on...

Again, and?

Star Citizen has fallen into development hell as far as anyone but its rabid fanbase cares. Articles that ended up sourced to standards were pulled, and those that were sourced stayed up. That's how shit works. What exactly are you trying to get at? A biased source doesn't mean it's wrong, and an article being pulled isn't proof its content wasn't true

Also it's not like Chris Roberts has any more credibility than Smart; they're both self-aggrandizing scam artists.

 

[ebalosus]

>Articles that ended up sourced to standards were pulled, and those that were sourced stayed up.

Wat? So articles that were well sourced were pulled, and those that weren't stayed? Isn't that like having a news site made up entirely of speculation and not actual news.

>A biased source doesn't mean it's wrong, and an article being pulled isn't proof its content wasn't true

Y'know, for such a pro "muh journalistic integrity site," they sure-as-shit don't stand behind said journalists when there is controversy...but nobody should be surprised, given what happened back in 2011.