Star Wars 7 has R2D2

[Mutie]

Yes. Yes I can. Apparently in terms of movies the phrase. "time heals all wounds." doesn't apply.

Please find an adequate counter argument to that common misconception in the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhFKj2Habko

OT: I think it's fair to say that R2D2 is one of the most important characters in the entire series, arguable the most active member of the resistance and the forces of "benevolence" throughout a far more extensive time frame than any other (3PO being too bigoted a twit to really count, especially considering R2's military designation prior to the discovery of 3PO). Personally, I'd be far more intrigued to see Star Wars cast as an exploration of the developing humanity of robots and androids, even so far as to include a entity little more than a mobile computer, as the predominant example of development. This would play quite nicely off the superiority of the more primitive, yet hominid, C3PO, not to mention the whole cyborg thing Vader has going on. All the other key cast could easily be done away with, even in the existing story arc, to make room for a far more interesting arc exploring the development of Vader as a matured character (not goddamn Hayden Christensen...)

 

[Zorpheus]

Considering they are heavily relying on Lucas' "consulting" I am not holding my breath for new movies. Lucas should be barred from anything related to SW by a restraining order or something...

Considering Lucas essentially served as 'consultant' for the original trilogy and a lot of his ideas for it were THROWN OUT, I would not say having Lucas as consultant is deal-breaking. He's not the director, so that's all I care about.

 

[KazeAizen]

Star Wars 7 has R2D2

Of course it does. He's the main protagonist. The most relate-able character. The only one who's dialogue isn't completely fucking retarded across all 6 currently existing films.

But seriously, from a story perspective I've no dramas with the Robots being in 7-9, as long as they're not being shoe-horned in like pretty much every previously identified character in the prequel trilogy (Yoda missing Chewbacca is a scene which, as a child, I would have killed for, as an adult it made me cry, and not because it's an emotional scene).

From a marketing perspective, I expect Disney to pull every dirty trick they have, including shoe-horning every character that ever had an action figure in.

I expect Boba Fett to turn up in 7-9 somewhere, He managed to turn up in the expanded universe on some flimsy pretext, so I reckon Disney will be riding the Boba Fett fanclub all the way to the bank.


Y'know what's truly fucked up about this whole thing? I actually don't care. I've somehow transcended the angry, nigh-on fanboyish opinions I used to hold about the Star Wars universe outside the original trilogy, and now I plan on just enjoying the ride. I even manage to enjoy Phantom Menace these days (because Liam Neeson is fucking awesome).

When it comes to Star Wars all I have to do is look at the Marvel movies and be happy because it is essentially the same circumstances and in those movies there has only been one that was a shameless marketing grab for toys. The end of Iron Man 3. Your post initially got me angry and then I read the end and I couldn't help thinking "thank god." After this topic though I'm never posting about Star Wars here again. I still see too many butt hurt fanboys running around that just love to demonize Lucas and love to piss on the prequels almost for the sake of doing it at this point. Also I'm loving the fact that a few times here I've posted news only to see an official article pop up later about the exact same thing.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Of course R2D2 and C3P0 will be in it. I also fully expect that R2 will somehow defeat fully trained troops/battle droids with it's tools, and 3P0 will do the same in some slapstick accident.

 

[Scarim Coral]

It not suprising seeing how R2D2 did continue to lived on after the tiliogy (in the expanded universe) unlike C3PO.

 

[Barbas]

R2 was my favourite character from the prequels and I can't wait to see him in the new films. I feel he will bring a certain presence to events.

 

[Reed Spacer]

What really really really pissed me off about the changes to Return of the Jedi was removing Sebastion Shaw as the spirit of Anakin and replacing it with *shudder* Hayden Christensen.

I mean Sebastion's in the movie for all of two minutes anyway for God's sake; you couldn't have just left it?

 

[Tanis]

Isn't that loser from the Star Trek reboot directing the new movies?

THAT'S what you should be worried about, not some robots.

 

[Saelune]

We already know what happens after VI, and they are likely going to ignore all of it, -that's- my worry.

 

[Something Amyss]

R2D2 and C3P0 are the main characters of the series. I don't know why people are so amazed. This would be like Harry Potter without Harry Potter, or Die Hard without Die Hard.

 

[Vale]

Spoiler alert:
The Skywalkers ain't the protagonists of Star Wars.
R2-D2 is.
Not having the guy in the new movie would automatically void its status as Star Wars.

 

[Jadak]

Their presence in the prequels doesn't mesh with the original trilogy AT ALL.

How does Obi Wan not remember them in A New Hope? One of the droids was HAND BUILT BY ANAKIN, his apprentice, "friend" and nemesis all rolled into one, and the other SAVED HIS LIFE during a blockade run and fought alongside himself and Anakin during the clone wars.

Not remembering C3P0 is fine, he has very limited direct involvement with Obi-Wan throughout the story and is mostly only directly interacted with via Anakin or Padme. Easy enough to forget some random droid like that.

As for R2D2, the 'saving his life' thing hardly matters, it's odd that they comment on that at all in the movie. You don't reward special recognition for a tool that does what it's supposed to. It was a generic robot used by some queen he's's just met, big deal.

But from then is a different story, R2D2 is consistently involved with their missions, always with Anakin and frequently bailing the two of them out of crap situations. Not too likely he'd be forgetting any of that.

 

[TheBlueRabbit]

Considering that, as far as I can tell, the whole story arc of both trilogies is pretty much told from R2's perspective (no, I'm not going to bother taking the time to explain why I hold this opinion) this comes as pretty much a given. Not sure a SW film WITHOUT the droids would be worth watching to me.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Their presence in the prequels doesn't mesh with the original trilogy AT ALL.

How does Obi Wan not remember them in A New Hope? One of the droids was HAND BUILT BY ANAKIN, his apprentice, "friend" and nemesis all rolled into one, and the other SAVED HIS LIFE during a blockade run and fought alongside himself and Anakin during the clone wars.

Not remembering C3P0 is fine, he has very limited direct involvement with Obi-Wan throughout the story and is mostly only directly interacted with via Anakin or Padme. Easy enough to forget some random droid like that.

As for R2D2, the 'saving his life' thing hardly matters, it's odd that they comment on that at all in the movie. You don't reward special recognition for a tool that does what it's supposed to. It was a generic robot used by some queen he's's just met, big deal.

But from then is a different story, R2D2 is consistently involved with their missions, always with Anakin and frequently bailing the two of them out of crap situations. Not too likely he'd be forgetting any of that.

You would still need to do some mental contortions to accept that Obi Wan isn't familiar with C3PO. How many years was he training Anakin? While it's portrayed terribly, they are meant to be really close, to the point of been more like family then just master and apprentice.

Surely when Anakin and C3PO reunited, he would have shown obi-wan even if he hadn't already told Obi-wan about the droid he built, on his own, as a child, and a slave. It's very unlike Anakin to be humble about his accomplishments.

Er, anyway, it's a daft point to argue over. We can at least agree that their presence at all in the prequels is more then a little contrived. Even if Lucas wanted them as a fixture for his series, he could have handled it much better.

 

[SonOfMethuselah]

I'm not at all surprised. Even if it weren't R2 and C3P0, astrodroids and protocol droids are a pretty common staple in everything Star Wars, so we likely would have seen two similar characters at some point, even if they were different. Considering that, it's probably best that they do use R2 and C3P0, because that's actually a lot better than creating a new astro/protocol droid duo to introduce in the new movies as a replacement pair. Because you know that would have happened, if this hadn't.

 

[Mick Beard]

Considering that, as far as I can tell, the whole story arc of both trilogies is pretty much told from R2's perspective (no, I'm not going to bother taking the time to explain why I hold this opinion) this comes as pretty much a given. Not sure a SW film WITHOUT the droids would be worth watching to me.

this is true.

Lucas got the idea from the movie 'Hidden Fortress" which is the same basic story as the 1st star wars movie except based in Japan and instead of Jedi had Samurai (its no coincidence that Jedi and samurai are very similar)

I seen lucus admit to it all in an interview with him that was at the start of my Hidden Fortress DVD.

in the interview Lucas basically says that he just remade this movie and made it spacey



in Hidden Fortress the story is seen through the eyes of 2 fools who even tho stuff everything up all the time come out the end alive somehow. eg they turn up to the war late and find out their side has lost. the other side capture them and make then bury all the dead before letting them go.

 

[Product Placement]

For an entire galaxy worth of planets, those two droids have a knack at finding themselves at the pivotal moments that will change the course of the entire world.

 

[C F]

We already know what happens after VI, and they are likely going to ignore all of it, -that's- my worry.

As a fan of the universe I hate to admit it, but everything outside of the original trilogy (and maybe the blockbuster games) is entirely expendable. Disney has the license to gut the entire EU and start fresh, and while I don't think they'll go that far, I can see them changing quite a few things.

If they're going to gut the EU I hope they at least take the prequels with them.
So, how 'bout that R2-D2? He isn't G0-T0, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was more than he let on. Of course, the mystery is part of his charm. Having a silent iconic character on the sidelines does wonders for the franchise methinks.