Star Wars Episode VII: Is Oxford Student Ben Kenobi's Descendant?

[MrBaskerville]

The cool thing about the idea, is that it could retcon the prequel trilogy, the old trilogy doesn't mention anything that rules out a young Obi-Wan romancing some girl before settling down on Tatooine. And the original trilogy doesn't say much about the Jedi rules, so why not? If you watch 4-6 it will make sense, though it would probably be best to use at as a revelation instead of just saying: "Hi, i'm Obi Wans grand daughter, how are you?"...

 

[Buizel91]

The cool thing about the idea, is that it could retcon the prequel trilogy, the old trilogy doesn't mention anything that rules out a young Obi-Wan romancing some girl before settling down on Tatooine. And the original trilogy doesn't say much about the Jedi rules, so why not? If you watch 4-6 it will make sense, though it would probably be best to use at as a revelation instead of just saying: "Hi, i'm Obi Wans grand daughter, how are you?"...

^Also this, my god people actually have brains! shocking!

There is VERY long period were Obi Wan is on his own on Tattooine. With the Jedi all gone, why can't he potentially have a child during that time? and how about that particular child has a child to give us this character?

Retconning the prequels is a bit far fetched, but this is Disney, you never know.

 

[ryan_cs]

I really hope it's actually Ben Skywalker's descendant (Luke's son in the expanded universe), and not Ben Kenobi because someone mixed up their last names, it's weird that it's Ben and not Obi Wan Kenobi.

 

[Cecilthedarkknight_234]

Ben Kenobi's descendant? Has this been confirmed?

That's pretty much pissing on his grave. After all that "living the way of the Jedi" and not allowing romantic feelings, how the f did ben end up with a kid?

That's pretty much the first thing I thought of when I read "Ben Kenobi's Descendant."

He did live in solitude for 20 plus years so there is no telling what he could have done in said time before becoming one with the force.

 

[the7ofswords]

It's looking like a whisky day today.

Every day should be Whisky day!

To get back on topic ...

And not to get all philosophical, or anything, but bear in mind that the upshot of the whole shattering of the Jedi Order was the realization that perhaps they had been too isolated from society?that by training up children from a very young age and cloistering themselves in their temple, they inadvertently sowed the seeds of the Empire.

Why did the Force need balance (as in the prophecies) to begin with? Because the Jedi Order had become unbalanced. Their rules went beyond the requirements for following the Way of the Light Side, and ended up in a sort of benevolent feudalistic oligarchy.

This is parallel to what has happened within many religious orders in our world?Catholic priests not being allowed to marry has caused all sorts of emotional/psychological problems, the negative results of which we witness in various sex crimes and cover-ups.

There's also a parallel to the Biblical Pharisees, whom Jesus criticizes for being too legalistic?their concern with exacting measures clouding their judgment and causing them to lose sight of the bigger (more important) picture.

That being said, I think it's probably safe to say that once the Order from the prequels collapsed, the remaining Jedi may have re-thought their positions on some of their stricter and more pointless rules. Therefore Obi-Wan (and Yoda) may have felt that a romantic relationship or marriage was no longer off the table.

So why shouldn't Obi-Wan have a daughter or grand-daughter?

 

[Brendan Davis]

Siri and Obi-wan had a daughter, Obi-wan did not know about her. That daughter lay with Lando, they had a child. So she can be a descendant of both Obi-wan and Lando. It is possible if they want to make it happen.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Uh yeah, here's to hoping they're going to handle that in a way that doesn't suck balls, because the whole 'long lost relative of a popular character' thing just reeks of bad fan-fiction. Then again, considering how much fan-service they seem to be putting into it already, chances are at least episode VII is not going to be much more than that.

Oh well, I suppose fan-service Star Wars is better than no Star Wars.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

She is clearly descendant from Lando Calrissian, he is the only black guy in the galaxy far far away.

Actually there was another in the era of The Rebellion, but he died pretty quick after his appearance.

So um...please no. I have a hard time believing that Obi would one: turn his back on The Code after beating Anakin over the head so much about it and two: that if he did have a child, he doesn't strike me as the person who would leave her and never mention her.
And if we're going with that whole, "Oh, he slept with me and I got pregnant, but I never told him because I didn't want to hurt him," I'm going to be very upset.

On the real-life side, I hope she does get the part she's trying out for. I just hope it's not the part that we're being told it is.

 

[Nowhere Man]

Can't they just make her a random girl who joins the heroes and saves the day with them? This whole "everybody's connected through bloodlines or my father created you or whatever destiny bla bla bla" bullshit we're seeing in movies now is beginning to get on my last nerve. Movie Bob laid it all out in one of his recent Big Pictures (Destined for Disappointment).

The Star Wars Universe is supposed to feel huge and sweeping, yet we keep revisting the same planets and the same characters/bloodlines.

 

[Kerethos]

Every day should be Whisky day!

I can't but agree!

Anyhow, on topic:
The rule not to have children, lovers or a family, as a Jedi, seems like it was never enforced. It's more like a recommendation that the important people can't be bothered to follow - leading to bad things and more story. It seems all that talk about discipline and self control can not overcome the power of love - or good old booty.

I've not read the books, and I probably never will, (a quick glance at Wookiepedia, well over a year ago, having seen the movies and played some of the games is my base for all of this) but if I remember correctly Luke goes on to have children with a former sith assassin (sent to kill him - because the base of any healthy relationship is always attempted murder, just ask any crazy stalker out there).
Leia has children with Han Solo (a man ironically named by his parents for his assumed future masturbation habits) and that, in turn, one of those children (Luke or Leia's) goes all evil and names himself "Dark Lord of the Sith" and all that. Because why shut your trap and just poison the next family dinner, when you can kill them one by one in a war that also kills countless others?
Starting the whole "family fights each other and wars happen" that Star Wars is built around anew.

Then Chewbacca explodes along with a whole planet - because nothing ups the stakes like the death of a whole planet (again) - and that one character we knew had a name and all loved, because he's naked all the time and that's just how he rolls. He also has a crossbow that shoots laser. Either way, naked hairy dude who communicates through noises and wields a badass nonsensical weapon = fun character. Anyone who tells you otherwise is boring, a dirty liar, your mom or your therapist. Hm, I may have gone of track there?

My point being - Star Wars is silly. The fun kind of silly that takes itself serious, but silly non the less. And it will most likely continue to break whatever "rules" there are, if the people making the movies think it would result in a fun movie. Expecting more is like expecting that the next time you drop a glass it'll fall upwards. Theoretically possible, but highly unlikely.

Now what i'd pay to see is a prequel for Knights of the Old Republic where they track down Revan. Written by the guys who wrote Knights of the Old Republic. That would get many of my dollars.

That's one of the missions in SW:TOR, but people like to pretend that didn't happen. Either way, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_993gc1QHWc
Did I just save many of your dollars with my Google-skills? If I did I think I'll celebrate, by not wearing pants for a while.

Unless you meant tracking him down while he was the bad guy... and I just wasted my Google-skills? Yeah, KOTOR, not TOR. My bad. I'm sad now. I Googled (is that even a word?) in vain

 

[verdant monkai]

Remember that bit when Obiwan Kenobi got laid?

YEAhhh Yeah.... me too

 

[Nowhere Man]

And if she is going to be a descendant why not Lando's? Where is Lando in all this anyway? Is he even coming back? Man, no love for Lando.

 

[Nowhere Man]

Uh yeah, here's to hoping they're going to handle that in a way that doesn't suck balls, because the whole 'long lost relative of a popular character' thing just reeks of bad fan-fiction. Then again, considering how much fan-service they seem to be putting into it already, chances are at least episode VII is not going to be much more than that.

Oh well, I suppose fan-service Star Wars is better than no Star Wars.

"I gotta bad feeling about this" myself. The way I see it now, the original trilogy (4,5,6) will always feel the freshest and most imaginative of the series (I guess that's a given). I don't hate the prequels like many do but they always felt wooden and focused more on answering questions that didn't need answers. Also Lucas was in his own bubble when he made them and it shows.

Now it looks like the new episodes are going to the opposite extreme and come off as you say like fan fiction. I also have the feeling they are going to try TOO hard to please audiences and I'm not sure if that's for the best. I may be concerned for nothing though so I'll try to reserve judgement until at least a trailer.

 

[Nowhere Man]

That's kind of a lore thing, the Force runs strongly in some bloodlines, which means those families end up being influential, as the Force controls all things. With the extermination of almost all jedi and force sensitives between Episodes 3 & 4, the only lines that can still be tapped are the Skywalker, Kenobi and possibly Yoda (though I think he is the last of his species).

Yeah that definitely makes sense. I'm just whining because I'm dying for some new characters with fresh backgrounds. Particularly the smuggler/scoundrel/rogue type.

 

[Fdzzaigl]

As far as I know, he did have love interests in the expanded universe, but it never actually got serious with his duty interfering and all.

So how exactly does this work?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Ben Kenobi's descendant? Has this been confirmed?

That's pretty much pissing on his grave. After all that "living the way of the Jedi" and not allowing romantic feelings, how the f did ben end up with a kid?

That's pretty much the first thing I thought of when I read "Ben Kenobi's Descendant."

He did live in solitude for 20 plus years so there is no telling what he could have done in said time before becoming one with the force.

True, but he still would've been bound by the old code which forbade romance. If I recall Anakin was going against those rules when he had a relationship with Padme which resulted in Luke and Leia.

 

[ThunderCavalier]

Can't they just make her a random girl who joins the heroes and saves the day with them? This whole "everybody's connected through bloodlines or my father created you or whatever destiny bla bla bla" bullshit we're seeing in movies now is beginning to get on my last nerve. Movie Bob laid it all out in one of his recent Big Pictures (Destined for Disappointment).

The Star Wars Universe is supposed to feel huge and sweeping, yet we keep revisting the same planets and the same characters/bloodlines.

I'm cool with this. Star Wars seems to have this obsession with the protagonists either being related to or close friends with the Skywalkers.

I wouldn't mind if some random unknown came in and made a difference.

 

[Jadak]

She is clearly descendant from Lando Calrissian, he is the only black guy in the galaxy far far away.

Sure, but you know... Kenobi is a fair bit older than Lando, perhaps one might say he's old enough to be his father?


Or not, whatever.