Star Wars Saturation Point Begins: Standalone Film Announced For 2016
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I am simultaneously aghast and jealous.Guitarmasterx7 said:Waitwaitwait....Steven Bogos said:
But yeah, I've already hit my Star Wars saturation point, at least for the time being. I voraciously consumed everything related to the franchise growing up, regardless of how great or shitty it was. I plumbed the depths of that well for all it could give, and eventually I became fatigued of the whole thing.
Don't get me wrong, I'll always like Star Wars. Hell, the new films might even rekindle that unbridled childhood enthusiasm in me again. For now though, I'm content to leave it be aside from the occasional trip down nostalgia lane.
Please please don't do origin stories for existing characters, especially those that have already been explored and defined by the actors over 30 years ago.
If you are going to do origins, do it with new characters. New characters with an interesting story to tell and who take us out of and away from the Skywalker era.
And no, I don't care if it conflicts with all the Jacen Solo, Cade Skywalker EU stuff. I always hated that everything seemed to revolve around this one family. It's the universe that appeals to people, explore other aspects of it with unrelated people.
Then maybe you will have somewhere to go with the movies when Abrams trilogy ends up sucking terribly.
If you are going to do origins, do it with new characters. New characters with an interesting story to tell and who take us out of and away from the Skywalker era.
And no, I don't care if it conflicts with all the Jacen Solo, Cade Skywalker EU stuff. I always hated that everything seemed to revolve around this one family. It's the universe that appeals to people, explore other aspects of it with unrelated people.
Then maybe you will have somewhere to go with the movies when Abrams trilogy ends up sucking terribly.
The worst thing is that it's going to work. We will all complain and moan about how cruelly the cow in this case is being treated and how horrible it is...but we will still drink it, either in secret or with bowed heads, we will all drink it. Because it is the sweet drink of saturated with childhood nostalgia and wonderment, a sugar that Disney has solliceted for years without fail.STENDEC1 said:
I sometimes wish there was an organisation to call out the malpractice of Disney and it's ilk of cash cow milkers. That People would fight for an Ethical Treatment of Entertainment.
"Entertainment is not ours to exploit, remake-reboot-sequel-adapt ad nauseam, or be unoriginal in any way."
PETE
In all seriousness, it is beyond ridiculous at this point, I have no idea how to bring original stories back into the Hollywood, it is an evil cycle, and we as nostalgia addicts cannot help ourselves. Especially when Disney has had a better track record with... quality control in regards to their milk.
That is how the industry works, you make a blockbuster you get to make another blockbuster, regardless of whether the prior movie was similar or you have and original thought.LobsterFeng said:
The real question is who the hell did Edwards have to █████ and ████ with to land Godzilla in the first place?
I don't mind more movies, but does it have to be origin stories? I really don't care about Han Solos origins, can't we just allude to something without making it into a movie? Do we have to explain everything? And personally i can't see what's so cool about Bobba Fett to warrant an entire movie, he's barely in the movies and the little we see of him doesn't exactly scream: I need my own movie!
I'll probably see them, but there's so much they could do that silly origin stories seems to be the least interesting choice.
I'll probably see them, but there's so much they could do that silly origin stories seems to be the least interesting choice.
The guy who wrote for the Walking Dead game?
Maybe something can be salvaged here...
All in all, at least the director is keen to do work on it... So, maybe that will amount to something in the future...
Not likely, but there's (very) slim hope...
but in the end, WOOOO MORE STAR WARS!?!!
Maybe something can be salvaged here...
All in all, at least the director is keen to do work on it... So, maybe that will amount to something in the future...
Not likely, but there's (very) slim hope...
but in the end, WOOOO MORE STAR WARS!?!!
My thoughts exactly. In my mind Star Wars is still episodes IV, V and VI and a gigantic pile of stuff around it (some of it quite good, admittedly), and even with new movies appearing over the coming years, I doubt that'll change my view of it.Shamanic Rhythm said:
That's the view I'm taking of this. While I think it is a bit much and is clearly an effort by Disney to maximize the money made on the series in order to regain the capital they dropped to buy the franchise; I'm not against them trying to make the movies. Just have a good story for gods sake!Barbas said:
Well, the solution is pretty self-evident, it would only require political will.O maestre said:
Abolish franchise rights. Limit copyright to specific works being produced, instead of granting publishers monopoly control over whole chunks of pop-culture, and incentivizing them to exploit those with continuity building.
Disney has bought Star Wars for $4 billion, not because they wanted exclusive screening rights for the already existing movies, but specifically because "Star Wars" is a concept that has market value, and they want to exploit it.
Observe how no one has bought the "Robin Hood franchise" or the "Shakespeare franchise", and consequentially no one has started producing $4 billion's worth of derivatives based on them.
The treatment of the Public Domain shows us an example of how when artists are free to mke whatever they want, they might occasionally create works based on pre-existing ones, but actually pretty transformative ones since they don't have to care about continuity-building, or about competing with their monopoly against others'.
What oversaturation? I can only see you being oversaturated if you immerse yourself in the Expanded universe on a constant basis, but then you're oversaturated regardless of the movies. It's been almost a decade since the last film, that's hardly a constant, neverending stream.
If your argument is that between the Clone Wars series, the books, the games and all that you are feeling oversaturated, that's your problem. But the main franchise is hardly crowded, especially since the news that most of the Expanded universe has been kicked out of canon (making it even more fanfic than it already was).
I get it, everyone loves to predict doom and gloom for Star Wars, it's the current bandwagon - but I honestly don't see what the problem is. Some dreck has come from Disney, but so have good, fun movies. If it's about Disney being a company oriented towards children and toys, Lucas was even worse. I wouldn't mind Star Wars becoming a major Space Opera film franchise, might be a nice break from all the Superhero oversaturation we've been having.
Seriously, the only real issue I have with the new Star Wars films thus far is that they let Abrams anywhere near them, but since most people on this forum jizz at the sound of his name, I'm actually a minority there.
If your argument is that between the Clone Wars series, the books, the games and all that you are feeling oversaturated, that's your problem. But the main franchise is hardly crowded, especially since the news that most of the Expanded universe has been kicked out of canon (making it even more fanfic than it already was).
I get it, everyone loves to predict doom and gloom for Star Wars, it's the current bandwagon - but I honestly don't see what the problem is. Some dreck has come from Disney, but so have good, fun movies. If it's about Disney being a company oriented towards children and toys, Lucas was even worse. I wouldn't mind Star Wars becoming a major Space Opera film franchise, might be a nice break from all the Superhero oversaturation we've been having.
Seriously, the only real issue I have with the new Star Wars films thus far is that they let Abrams anywhere near them, but since most people on this forum jizz at the sound of his name, I'm actually a minority there.
Maybe if they can add info about the new trilogies characters or places in it then it might actually work out good. But origins movies wont work. I like Han Solo, i don give a shit about what he was like as a kid etc
If I can get excited about multiple movies a year based on Marvel comic book characters, I think I can stomach a Star Wars movie or two a year, especially considering that both are being funded by the same hand.
Not as keen on origin stories though. I'd rather see more of a cinematic version of the 90s era expanded universe. Not verbatim, mind you, but somewhat lower budget films exploring new characters and their adventures during and after the rebellion era(reserving judgement on whether or not I want to see more stories in the Sequel trilogy era).
Basically, I want to see them pull off something like the X-Wing series.
Not as keen on origin stories though. I'd rather see more of a cinematic version of the 90s era expanded universe. Not verbatim, mind you, but somewhat lower budget films exploring new characters and their adventures during and after the rebellion era(reserving judgement on whether or not I want to see more stories in the Sequel trilogy era).
Basically, I want to see them pull off something like the X-Wing series.
hahaha, oh shit that would be glorious.NuclearKangaroo said:
OT: Depends what they do with it. Marvel is using their characters as they should atm. Lots of good movies that use the source material, but adapt it for the silver screen. As it should be.
As long as we get Iron Man type milking and not Amazing Spiderman type milking...I'm ok with it.jpg
I think that the Star Wars -franchise has always been over-saturated, which is fine for me since I enjoy it. But, to be honest, the standalone films sound like a good idea. Though, I would've liked these, and the new trilogy, to be about some new period of time in Star Wars lore, with completely new characters and motivations. There is quite a lot to go by for sure. Oh well, at least I have my KOTOR's.
We need Greedo origin story, show us depth and suffering of this character please!
Jar-Jar Origin would also be great!
Jar-Jar Origin would also be great!