Starcraft 2: Will you pay full price for 1/3 of a game?

[Benny lava]

and anyway, all of you who complain about having to pay too much, quit yer bitching and come live in australia. We pay almost double for EVERY game. you say you dont like 60 bucks for a game? try paying 110 like we do.

blame having a different currency

I hope you understand that the AUSD trades at US$0.8420. That means that every Australian doller is worth 80 amercian cents . This in practice means that 60 USD, which is the price of the game would cost 70 Australian.If what Waffle copters says is true, this means we are charged an extra 20 dollers.

Source http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100706-701248.html

 

[Eleima]

I am very disappointed that I won't get to play a Protoss or a Zerg campaign just yet, but in the meantime, I'll be glad to get Wings of Liberty and play Terran for now. Apparently, there are a lot missions, and plenty of content, so yes, I'll buy it new (I've already pre-ordered it, too).

 

[John Funk]

Saying that a game is better because one campaign is longer than the whole other game is stupid. Starcraft was released over 10 years ago, the technology and storage has increased dramatically since then. How can you people honestly think this is worth it? Every other RTS ever made has had all the playable factions available in both multiplayer AND singleplayer, and I guarantee you that if another company had done this 2 years ago, all of you would be raging at them.

Dawn of War...?

I'll wait, you can go rage at Relic. Sure, they made a great game, but you don't get all the singleplayer campaigns in one game...!

 

[Neuromaster]

Was Star Wars: A New Hope 1/3 of a movie?

If you don't consider Blizzard's offering a good deal, I humbly ask what modern big-budget titles you have enjoyed or look forward to? In my mind, Blizzard occupies a seat of honor (along with Valve and Bioware) among the greatest game devs of our time. Perhaps there're other hidden gems I should be aware of?

 

[DSK-]

I already pre-ordered it. I trust Blizzard enough to make a solid game. Even more so that Bioware to be honest.

 

[Enigmers]

I really don't see why you're arguing over gameplay time and completely forgetting the fact that the multiplayer is a delicious bottomless pit which will eat up all your spare time until somebody invents a TV that bakes you pancakes and blows you.

It's like saying MW2 is not a 60$ because the campaign is 5 hours long. The bulk of that game is in the multiplayer - if you don't get it for the multiplayer, that's fine, but don't get off saying that "SC2 is a shitty game because the single player is only X hours long." I've spent maybe 20 hours on the multiplayer, just through the SC2 beta, which is probably what they've spent the most time polishing, balancing, designing and re-designing. When you say that you think SC2 is a waste of money because you're only looking at the campaign, you're giving the finger to everyone that has to sift through textual tonnes of the average battle.net forum user to find something that may look like positive feedback and put it into the game, trying to balance a game from the viewpoint of thousands of biased people.

If you are of the opinion that the multiplayer is not for you, then Starcraft II may not be the game for you, and it shouldn't be called a rip-off because of your special tastes.

 

[Nemu]

My god, I could only get through 3 pages of this sobfest before getting sick of you whiners.

If you don't like the price, don't pay for it. That's it. Stop being hypocrites, complaining about Evil Blizzard putting the screws to you with their game-selling strategies while, at virtually the same time, playing the 8th sequel to Call of Duty or Fallout (not to mention paying for the DLC that you'll be finished with in a matter of hours).

Personally, I've pre-ordered the game but have yet to decide if I'll buy the other campaigns (I suspect I will, tho, since I want to play more interesting races...). Must admit I'm glad so many whiners have decided to be rebels and not buy the game, tho, since it'll save me from a few chat-related headaches later on.

I am also very disappointed by the lack of murlocs in this thread.

 

[John Funk]

Was Star Wars: A New Hope 1/3 of a movie?

If you don't consider Blizzard's offering a good deal, I humbly ask what modern big-budget titles you have enjoyed or look forward to? In my mind, Blizzard occupies a seat of honor (along with Valve and Bioware) among the greatest game devs of our time. Perhaps there're other hidden gems I should be aware of?

The problem that everybody seems to be having is that blizzard said they were going to divide sc2 into 3 games and they would cost $60 each. They didnt say we will be releasing sc2 and have 2 expansions planned no they just said they were dividing it into 3 games.* On top of that with the number of developers who are cutting stuff from the game to later sell it as dlc, (im looking at you bioshock 2) its comes as no surprise that people are not thinking the same is happening here. On top of that since sc turned into a multiplayer game so they could very easily get away with actually doing that. I am not saying blizzard is only selling 1/3 of a game but I am saying that they could very easily do that and everybody would still buy it regardless if that know that or not and they will continue to ***** about it afterwords.

One thing that will happen is that early on your going to be playing against alot of really crappy zerg/protoss players since everybody will be familiar with the terran from doing the single player campaign.

Im not buying it because its a full game or its 1/3 of a game im not buying it because I played it and thought it was overrated. I dont want to have to play for 30 hours before I actually get placed in the proper ranking system so I can start playing against people the same skill level as me.

*Um. That is actually exactly what they've said they will be doing. SC2Z and SC2P are both being referred to as expansions.

And the singleplayer won't get you prepared for MP. They have special Challenge maps for that to teach you multiplayer things, which are doable with all races.

 

[Ranorak]

Yes, yes I will get the full game, and it's 2 expansions.
Just like how I got WoW and it's 2 (soon 3) expansions.

The only difference? The Starcraft expansions are announced ahead of time.

 

[Wolfram23]

Given all the misinformation here... hopefully this, copied from the OFFICIAL STARCRAFT 2 FAQ [http://us.starcraft2.com/faq.xml#trilogy] will clear things up a bit concerning the trilogy:
(I italicised some important things)

What is the StarCraft II Trilogy?
The StarCraft II Trilogy consists of the base StarCraft II game and two subsequent expansion sets. StarCraft II is subtitled Wings of Liberty (working title) and will include a lengthy single-player campaign that focuses on the terrans and puts players in the role of Jim Raynor, one of the series' main heroes. The first expansion set, Heart of the Swarm (working title), will follow later and include a single-player campaign focusing on the zerg and Kerrigan, Queen of Blades. The second expansion set, Legacy of the Void (working title), will continue the story experience with a single-player campaign centered on the protoss.

Will we still be able to play multiplayer matches of StarCraft II with all three races?
Yes! From the beginning, StarCraft II will be a fully featured multiplayer game, and all three races will be available for competitive play.

How will the expansion sets impact multiplayer gameplay?
The expansion sets will add new content to each race for use in multiplayer matches. This could include additions such as new units, abilities, and structures, along with new maps and Battle.net updates.

If I buy StarCraft II but don't buy any of the expansion sets, will I still be able to play online?
Yes. This will work similarly to Warcraft III and the original StarCraft, which maintained separate online gaming lobbies and ladders for expansion set players and players with the base Warcraft III or StarCraft.

How long is each of the campaigns?
StarCraft II's terran campaign will consist of approximately 26 to 30 missions, and each expansion set will include a similar number of missions. This means that the complete StarCraft II Trilogy will include as many as 90 single-player missions. This allows us to create a truly epic story experience with a great variety of unique missions and gameplay types.

Why did you decide to release each race's campaign separately?
We're aiming to push the boundaries of storytelling and character development in RTS games through the unique single-player campaign design of StarCraft II. Players will be able to choose their mission path and technology upgrades for their army as they advance through the campaign. In order to make these choices meaningful while creating an epic story and well-developed characters for each faction, we needed to focus on a single race for a large number of missions.

The Trilogy also allows us to create more in-game and prerendered cinematics to tell the story in between missions. There will be more interactive sets and elements for players to explore during each campaign, along with other interesting design elements to differentiate the single-player game from multiplayer matches. For example, the technology choices within the terran single-player campaign will include special upgrades and unit types that are unique to the single-player game. These could include the ability to purchase classic units such as the wraith or firebat to add to Jim Raynor's army.

Are these three separate games? How much will all of these games cost?
The StarCraft II Trilogy will consist of the base StarCraft II game and two expansion sets. Pricing on these games hasn't been determined at this early stage; however, we've always charged an appropriate price for the content the player receives, and we will continue to release high-quality games that offer great value.

How long will it take to ship each expansion set in the Trilogy?
We're still focused on developing the base StarCraft II game, and all the content associated with the terran campaign, including the missions, cinematic cutscenes, and interactive sets. It's too early to provide an estimate on how long it will take to develop each of the expansion sets in the trilogy, but as always, we will take as much time as is needed to create the best possible gaming experience with each expansion set.

/thread.

 

[Signa]

So at the very least, I'd rather support full-featured and full-length expansions, which are actually worth their price, than support DLC, even the best of which still amounts to a severe rip-off.

That's a very good point. I'm sick of this nickel-and-dime DLC bullshit where you pay for a 1/5th or 1/6th of a game, and you get 1/10th of one in content.

 

[Yarpie]

If each expansion provides as much content as promised, then yeah, I'll happily pay for that. Given that they said that they adjust the nature of the campaign depending on what race you are playing (such as that Terran would focus on things like gathering resources for your band of warriors while the Zerg will focus on evolving your race) I'm actually really looking forward to the two expansions, as they seem to provide well developed differences.

 

[WaffleCopters]

and anyway, all of you who complain about having to pay too much, quit yer bitching and come live in australia. We pay almost double for EVERY game. you say you dont like 60 bucks for a game? try paying 110 like we do.

blame having a different currency

our currency is the same, dollars and cents. its just that the value is different.

 

[WaffleCopters]

I am very disappointed that I won't get to play a Protoss or a Zerg campaign just yet, but in the meantime, I'll be glad to get Wings of Liberty and play Terran for now. Apparently, there are a lot missions, and plenty of content, so yes, I'll buy it new (I've already pre-ordered it, too).

oh you will get to, but itll be unofficial and user created, and itll be a few months. but itll be a "campaign"

 

[WaffleCopters]

oh, and also, those people who think blizzaard are lazy, arent paying attention to the amount of effort they are puttin ginto the galaxy editor. if you wanna see some neat shit in action, go to yTube and put in "Starcraft 2 Metal Slug". im not joking either, someones made a metal slug with starcraft 2.

 

[WaffleCopters]

ok, im gonna stop bothering quoting people here, and shorten this whole crap down to one. (assuming i dont forget to include stuff)

1. Starcraft 2 IS split into three campaigns, all which have different mechanics. Though you may rather not pay for 3 parts, you have to since each campaign is game length, 32-36 missions long.

2. Expansions WILL add new stuff, but noone knows what they will be. Also, the addons for DOW werent really game changing, since that games strategy always end up being unit spam.

3. Starcraft 2 is NOT 1/3rd complete without the expansions. THE CAMPAIGN IS. Yes, some games multiplayer isnt worth mentioning, but you may have noticed the SC2 Beta was MULTIPLAYER. so evidently they are putting huge emphasis on the multiplayer this time.

4. Blizzard are not cash whores for making us pay for three parts. if they wanted to they would make blizzard.net pay to use. The effort and resources they put into this game they have to get back at some point, so paying 60-100 for 300 dollars worth of game will put them back really really far.

this is all i can be bothered posting right now.

most betas are mp and i haven't really seen any sp beta's i may be wrong since i haven't looked for any or seen any

lol SP betas are called pre-release Demos. you may notice on a lot of demos nowadays, before they start up they say things like "This is under production and bugs n shit may happen, so dont QQ bout them" pretty much.

 

[JEBWrench]

I wonder why people are claiming that the expansions are worth the money when the base game isn't even out yet?

 

[kingcom]

I wonder why people are claiming that the expansions are worth the money when the base game isn't even out yet?

Because of what has been quoted to be in it? I mean the beta demonstrated the games quality already.