To me the "Retro styled stealth fighter" Looks like the american made Armstrong Flying wing, an experimental prototype bomber made by the US airforce in WW2
I quite think so. Given that the rest of The Avengers continuity is on a very modern time and that there is a 60-year lapse, either that or Captain America goes underground for 60+ years, which seems quite implausible.octafish said:One question, will the movie end like we all expect it to? You know, frosty?
He wasn't born black or Asian and the formula turned him blue eyed and blond haired white guy. He was a blue eyed blond haired guy who got muscular.BrotherRool said:"The perfect man" has blonde hair and blue eyes? Subtle. No matter how many people try to explain to me otherwise, the whole thing still reeks of beating the Nazis by being better at it than them.
That was the whole point, his creator Jack Kirby was Jewish, the comics industry itself was more Jewish than it is now (and that's saying something). They thought it would be ironic if the perfect man, a super-solider who fits the Aryan ideal, fought the very regime that would want to idealize him. They actually released the comics about a year before the USA entered the war and were criticised as being war-mongering.BrotherRool said:"The perfect man" has blonde hair and blue eyes? Subtle. No matter how many people try to explain to me otherwise, the whole thing still reeks of beating the Nazis by being better at it than them.
Fury in regular universe (who is white) uses an anti-aging formula derived from Captain America's super serum, keeps him young minus the physical enhancements. Ultimate Fury is heavily based off Isiah Bradley better known as the Black Captain America, who was a soldier experimented on by the government. Ultimate Fury is physically similar to ultimate Cap, in that he has some degree of super-strength and resilience. Ultimate Cap is genuinely "Super" whereas regular is just "peak human".Nerf Ninja said:Correct me if I'm wrong (Not really up on Marvel lore) but wasn't Nick fury also a potential candidate for the super soldier program that kind of worked but not as well as Steve Rogers? I could have sworn I'd heard of something like this, particularly in the Ultimate universe.
He's supposed to be a heck of a lot older than he looks isn't he?
The Invaders were primarily a superhero team, so they were mostly American, with a few British characters. The Howling Commandos were also mainly an American squad but had characters from a few different countries including a German defector.Falseprophet said:Minor Pet Peeve: Were the Invaders solely an Anglo-American team? No other Allied nation members? Not one Canadian, Australian, Free French, Free Poles, nothing?
If Captain America is to become part of the Avengers it can only end one way and that is frosty.octafish said:One question, will the movie end like we all expect it to? You know, frosty?
Stopped reading the second paragraph after one word when a sense of familiar dread draped itself over my shoulders, but as to the first, AGAIN YES THAT WAS THE POINT YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST TO NOTICE. He and the space-Moses from DC are two sides of the same coin, ubermenschen created to fight the Nazis using the delicious power of irony.BrotherRool said:"The perfect man" has blonde hair and blue eyes? Subtle. No matter how many people try to explain to me otherwise, the whole thing still reeks of beating the Nazis by being better at it than them.
Patriotism, is of course naturally the main aim and tool of a facist government, which doesn't help. (I'm not saying anyone is facist, just in the same way socialism and aiming for equality among poor people are a sign/aim of communism, extreme patriotism is an aim of facism)
Cheers, I hadn't heard that before.WolfThomas said:That was the whole point, his creator Jack Kirby was Jewish, the comics industry itself was more Jewish than it is now (and that's saying something). They thought it would ironic if the perfect man, a super-solider who fits the Aryan ideal, fought the very regime that would want to idealize him. They actually released the comics about a year before the USA entered the war and were criticised as being war-mongering.BrotherRool said:"The perfect man" has blonde hair and blue eyes? Subtle. No matter how many people try to explain to me otherwise, the whole thing still reeks of beating the Nazis by being better at it than them.