Got nothing but respect for Steam. Hell i wish xbox would update thier download games so that it includeds latest releases.
Steam - can they really keep it up?
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A post on Bethesda's official forum by senior community manager Gstaff confirms the company is aware of the issue. "Looking into the matter as we speak... hold tight," it reads.
Splash Damage is also investigating and has retweeted an earlier message from the official Brink Twitter account: "RE: Steam unlock issues for some users: RT @brinkgame @wstn we're looking at it and should have it resolved quickly"
Initial reports from members of the Steam forum confirm only UK users are affected. Those elsewhere in Europe are still able to download the title.
Just had a read through this, I like how Games For Windows Live wasn't even mentioned lol! They mention Microsoft but only as having a share of the gaming community - not the digital distribution of games. Now I'm off to search for how much of a percentage GFWL has.KrubixCube said:
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The one thing I'm concerned about is their network capacity. Not so bothered if sales happen or not - if they're there when I look I buy, if they're not I'll pass.
However, I don't enjoy it when I can't do stuff because it says the network is busy. If I'm installing a game, why can't it acknowledge I've requested the install, and then initiate the download when it's good and ready?
The one thing I'm concerned about is their network capacity. Not so bothered if sales happen or not - if they're there when I look I buy, if they're not I'll pass.
However, I don't enjoy it when I can't do stuff because it says the network is busy. If I'm installing a game, why can't it acknowledge I've requested the install, and then initiate the download when it's good and ready?
Yes they can keep it up.
I haven't noticed any problems, I suggest you areprojecting your own personal issues onto a massive system Having systems instability issues unique to your computer and assuming wrongly that they are affecting everyone else.
Steam Deals are big BIG business for Valve and a great deal for consumers.
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I haven't noticed any problems, I suggest you are
Steam Deals are big BIG business for Valve and a great deal for consumers.
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short answer, yes
the profit margin for digital games vs store games is HUGE, store bought games have about 10-20% (if i remember correctly) profit for the developers, because they are paying to make the disk, package it, ship it, and pay the reseller (well, the reseller makes a profit from it as well)
digial, they just have to pay for the server and internet, and which gives about 70% profit split between valve and the developer (i forget the exact % valve keeps and the developer keeps, but it is huge) and even higher for valve games (they dont need to ship the game to their servers, they already have it, and its already developed with steam in mind)
long story short, they can do a +%50 sale and still post a profit to the developer and themselves, additionally, drawing more people for steam because of these deals
(note, some of those % may be off a bit, im trying to remember an article i read like 2 months ago)
the profit margin for digital games vs store games is HUGE, store bought games have about 10-20% (if i remember correctly) profit for the developers, because they are paying to make the disk, package it, ship it, and pay the reseller (well, the reseller makes a profit from it as well)
digial, they just have to pay for the server and internet, and which gives about 70% profit split between valve and the developer (i forget the exact % valve keeps and the developer keeps, but it is huge) and even higher for valve games (they dont need to ship the game to their servers, they already have it, and its already developed with steam in mind)
long story short, they can do a +%50 sale and still post a profit to the developer and themselves, additionally, drawing more people for steam because of these deals
(note, some of those % may be off a bit, im trying to remember an article i read like 2 months ago)
Valve goes crazy with deals all the time, they've straight up said that they like to play around with deals and see how much they can make. They made a billion dollars last year in revenue from Steam alone. Even if these sales are hurting their figures, they're still making a profit and have learned that it isn't healthy for them to keep doing the deals like this, but we'll just have to wait for the figures much later on. So, yes.Anjel said:
OK, let me rephrase.Anjel said:
Your PERSONAL system (yours) is having issues (maybe needs update, system clean-up etc) and you are assuming everyone else is having the same problem. I know realise I inadvertently suggested you had "personal issues" as in emotional/psychological problems.
Sorry, going to edit that.
But your title jumps right into questioning whether Steam is going to collapse - unreasonably casting doubt on an important network - before even asking if anyone else has the same problems you have.
I had similar problems with Steam and many other programs. But then a major system clean up and more RAM it works fine (turns out I had accumulated some disruptive malware).
Yes these were my thoughts exactly. I love Steam and it's sales, but too much of a good thing equals problems, which we have already witnessed - albeit small problems. I hope they iron out the problems while maintaining the current level of sales. This week they had the midweek sale, weekend sale, developer deal and daily deal all running at the same time as well as King Arthur at 50% and various pre-orders at 10-15% off. If they can't iron out the small problems we've had they could cut back without taking too much damage to their sales, but if the problems get worse they could lose a small percentage of it's consumers which could be more damaging than cutting out a sale.Soylent Bacon said:
Well maybe I should have phrased my initial post differently and backed it up with facts but the issues I mentioned are talked about on their forums so I knew it was not just me, the one that I could not find evidence for I actually posted that this may just be my system.Treblaine said:
My computer is brand spanking new (I let down the side by going Alienware but I'm happy with it so fuck the haters
). I never said that Steam was going to collapse, it is an open question. Am I concerned that Steam may collapse? Yes, but I do not think it likely, I think it is more likely that they will damage their reputation which will lower what stake they have in the digital distribution market, but I am not even saying that I think that WILL happen.Are you sure you're reading my initial post?
But the deals are launching between 1800 and 1830 my time, I know it sounds like I'm being petty but they used to launch bang on 1800, when things get delayed by a few minutes quite frequently when they used to run like clockwork it gets noticed - even if it isn't a big deal.syrus27 said:
Midweek Madness didn't use to overlap with Weekend Deals either. This is a good thing, and if it is by design then it's no problem, but are they forgetting to mark up the midweek deal when they mark down the weekend deal?
I think I should clarify that I am in no way suggesting that Steam are fucking everything up here - that was never my intent when I posted, I just wanted to point out that what was once a system you could set your watch by has slipped ever so slightly.
ALERT ALERT!Anjel said:My computer is brand spanking new (I let down the side by going Alienware but I'm happy with it so fuck the haters
This instantly sets my warning alarms off, new computers (ALL OF THEM) are loaded up with so much crapware "new" is no guarantee at all with stability.
Alienware is actually better than others but now where near as good as a fresh install.
PS I run vista 64 bit on my gaming PC: never crashed. Never slowed down, never given me ANY trouble because I know EXACTLY what every little program I put on there is. And keep everything up to date and under control.
So before you bring your troubles here, take them Here:
https://support.steampowered.com/
Which is why the first thing I did was reformat and do a fresh install of Win7Treblaine said:ALERT ALERT!Anjel said:My computer is brand spanking new (I let down the side by going Alienware but I'm happy with it so fuck the haters
This instantly sets my warning alarms off, new computers (ALL OF THEM) are loaded up with so much crapware "new" is no guarantee at all with stability.
I may have bought Alienware, but I'm not a computer noob Edit: Also using Win7 64. Installed programs are Steam, Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 (with program exceptions for Steam, Steamupdate and all Steam apps), Adobe Photoshop, Google Chrome and Windows Live Essentials (Mail only). That is all.