Steam has System Shock 2

[Dosbilliam]

This is the first thing today that's made it a good day. :3

 

[Pink Gregory]

You know it's available DRM-free on GOG.com, right? With extra shiny things?

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/system_shock_2

 

[Hazy992]

^What he said. Why would I buy it on Steam when I can get it DRM-free on GOG already? What is Steam actually offering over GOG that makes its DRM worth it?

 

[DoPo]

What is Steam actually offering over GOG that makes its DRM worth it?

It's 30% off right now...so-o-o, I suppose if you really want those extra three dollars for yourself, it might be a tradeoff you can take. Otherwise...I'm not sure.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Question: What actual DRM is on the Steam version of System Shock 2? Older games like that typically only have whatever copy protection they came with implemented, and since it's usually just a disc check, they tend to strip even that out. Now granted, you can't always launch it properly through Steam itself if you're screwed up on the DRM, but typically all you have to do to launch it is go into the folder it's installed to and click on the exe file, whether you're logged in to Steam or not. They don't typically spend the extra money to get Steamworks implemented on these ancient games.

OT: This is good news. Competition is a good thing, it forces stores to compete on prices. Store exclusives are not a good thing when it comes to unique products like videogames. This isn't like a house brand of toothpaste, here.

 

[Pink Gregory]

Question: What actual DRM is on the Steam version of System Shock 2? Older games like that typically only have whatever copy protection they came with implemented, and since it's usually just a disc check, they tend to strip even that out. Now granted, you can't always launch it properly through Steam itself if you're screwed up on the DRM, but typically all you have to do to launch it is go into the folder it's installed to and click on the exe file, whether you're logged in to Steam or not. They don't typically spend the extra money to get Steamworks implemented on these ancient games.

OT: This is good news. Competition is a good thing, it forces stores to compete on prices. Store exclusives are not a good thing when it comes to unique products like videogames. This isn't like a house brand of toothpaste, here.

It's still nice to hear that the rights issues were resolved; even if it's a few months ago. Gives hope to everything in re-release hell.

 

[Pink Gregory]

Question: What actual DRM is on the Steam version of System Shock 2? Older games like that typically only have whatever copy protection they came with implemented, and since it's usually just a disc check, they tend to strip even that out. Now granted, you can't always launch it properly through Steam itself if you're screwed up on the DRM, but typically all you have to do to launch it is go into the folder it's installed to and click on the exe file, whether you're logged in to Steam or not. They don't typically spend the extra money to get Steamworks implemented on these ancient games.

OT: This is good news. Competition is a good thing, it forces stores to compete on prices. Store exclusives are not a good thing when it comes to unique products like videogames. This isn't like a house brand of toothpaste, here.

It's still nice to hear that the rights issues were resolved; even if it's a few months ago. Gives hope to everything in re-release hell.

 

[Smertnik]

I have to wonder, why would anyone get the game from Steam? On one hand you have all the bonus stuff and on the other you have... DRM. And for Europeans even the discount is worthless since GOG's price in USD is more or less the same as Steam's current one in Euros.

 

[ScrabbitRabbit]

I have to wonder, why would anyone get the game from Steam? On one hand you have all the bonus stuff and on the other you have... DRM. And for Europeans even the discount is worthless since GOG's price in USD is more or less the same as Steam's current one in Euros.

Same for the pound. It's only a quid cheaper on Steam at 30% off! I'd be willing to pay an extra £1 for the manual, wallpapers, Ken Levine interview, soundtrack in FLAC and MP3, avatars pack, full size SHODAN render, artwork, concept maps and the pitch document if I hadn't already bought it as soon as it hit GOG.

I just know the Steam version will do better, though, just because it's Steam. :/

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Question: What actual DRM is on the Steam version of System Shock 2?

Well, Steam is DRM, so that is probably what they are referring to.

 

[Auron]

What's wrong with wanting it on Steam anyway?

I like to keep my games there, didn't get it on gog and it's 5 dollars cheaper in my region.

 

[5ilver]

Question: What actual DRM is on the Steam version of System Shock 2? Older games like that typically only have whatever copy protection they came with implemented, and since it's usually just a disc check, they tend to strip even that out. Now granted, you can't always launch it properly through Steam itself if you're screwed up on the DRM, but typically all you have to do to launch it is go into the folder it's installed to and click on the exe file, whether you're logged in to Steam or not. They don't typically spend the extra money to get Steamworks implemented on these ancient games.

OT: This is good news. Competition is a good thing, it forces stores to compete on prices. Store exclusives are not a good thing when it comes to unique products like videogames. This isn't like a house brand of toothpaste, here.

If you get banned on Steam, that's it- you lose the game. Then there's stuff like having to turn Steam on (not to mention having it installed on your PC) and all the annoying popups/chat windows to manage and turn off...

If you buy it on GoG- it's yours, no strings attached.

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

I have to wonder, why would anyone get the game from Steam? On one hand you have all the bonus stuff and on the other you have... DRM. And for Europeans even the discount is worthless since GOG's price in USD is more or less the same as Steam's current one in Euros.

Same for the pound. It's only a quid cheaper on Steam while it's 30% off. I'd be willing to pay an extra £1 for the manual, wallpapers, Ken Levine interview, soundtrack in FLAC and MP3, avatars pack, full size SHODAN render, artwork, concept maps and the pitch document if I hadn't already as soon as it hit GOG.

I just know the Steam version will do better, though, just because it's Steam. :/

Yep already in the top sellers list on Steam. Why anyone would really want to pay for a version that has drm and none of extras of the gog.com version that has been available for a while I will never know. To me the choice between steam and gog.com versions of games is easy, gog wins every time.

I mean granted you can say you can keep all your games in one place with Steam, but you can do the same with your gog.com games just as easily.

Spoiler: All you need is one of these

 

[Auron]

Question: What actual DRM is on the Steam version of System Shock 2? Older games like that typically only have whatever copy protection they came with implemented, and since it's usually just a disc check, they tend to strip even that out. Now granted, you can't always launch it properly through Steam itself if you're screwed up on the DRM, but typically all you have to do to launch it is go into the folder it's installed to and click on the exe file, whether you're logged in to Steam or not. They don't typically spend the extra money to get Steamworks implemented on these ancient games.

OT: This is good news. Competition is a good thing, it forces stores to compete on prices. Store exclusives are not a good thing when it comes to unique products like videogames. This isn't like a house brand of toothpaste, here.

If you get banned on Steam, that's it- you lose the game. Then there's stuff like having to turn Steam on (not to mention having it installed on your PC).

If you buy it on GoG- it's yours, no strings attached.

You don't "get banned" on Steam, you can get framed for cheating on some games but it's not a dictatorship. Steam users(at least most if the user statistics are anything to go by.) have it always on also, mostly because of the chat so that's not a hassle.

Question: What actual DRM is on the Steam version of System Shock 2?

Well, Steam is DRM, so that is probably what they are referring to.

Many games can be opened independently from Steam client.

 

[DoPo]

If you get banned on Steam, that's it- you lose the game.

You don't get banned on Steam. At most, your account could be deactivated (if you did something against the TOS or by request, for example, it's not just random) but even then you retain all games you had there, only you can't buy new ones.

What was the issue again?

 

[2fish]

But I own the GOG one already? I am happy that there are more places people can get it though. Now if GOG would just get vampire the masqurade bloodlines.

 

[antidonkey]

Nice. I've yet to get the GoG one and my desire to save $3 and keep as many titles as possible in one location makes me very tempted to get this version. I still wish I could find my old retail copy. That what I get for letting a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend borrow it.

 

[Darks63]

The only issue i see between the GOG version and the Steam version is whether or not steam bothered to optimize their version for the newer operating systems, something which steam sucks at.

 

[Jimmy T. Malice]

Eh, I've already got it on GoG. The Steam version is especially cheap if you don't live in the USA, since GoG only deals in dollars and your bank will probably charge a conversion fee (£1 for me). But it doesn't come with the soundtrack like the GoG version.

 

[DementedSheep]

Honestly I get it off GOG. Maybe its just luck but I have had issues with old games not working when I buy them from steam but not from GOG. Plus it comes with extra shit.