shintakie10 said:
Funny, here's a question for you.
If I, at any time, decide not to agree to the Steam EULA like say back when the EULA was updated to disallow people from joinin in a class action lawsuit against Valve, what happens to my games?
As I have a few friends who didn't agree to the new TOS at the time, I can say with confidence that your games are still yours to play. They didn't accept the new agreement, and only lost access to the storefront. They could still open steam and play all of their games.
Answer. You can't play them. Ever. For any reason. You could not even go into offline mode in order to play your games (I know, I tried). If you did not hit accept, Steam would forcibly close. If you attempted to open it again, the only option would be to accept the EULA, or have Steam close. You could not play Steam games, regardless of where you bought your games at, until you accepted that EULA. If you never did, you never got your games.
Except, that WASN'T the case, as I said above.
In fact, the only option that Valve gave to consumers who didn't agree to the EULA change at the time was to cancel their Steam account. They would not get a refund and unless they downloaded a crack to the game(somethin that is, at best, a legal grey area) that they should legally own, but accodrin to Valve they don't, they will never be able to play that game again.
Again, utter bullshit.
And, as for the cracks, they are perfectly legal as long as you've legally purchased the software you intend to crack and don't plan to sell or redistribute copies.
Do you know how I know this? It basically happened to me. I couldn't play the games I by all rights should legally have owned because I refused to accept a change to Steam's EULA. Anythin that had Steamplay on it was completely inaccessible to me unless I agreed to the EULA, regardless of the fact that I owned those games. Online, offline, Valve owned, indie game, didn't matter.
It basically happened? What does that even mean?
It sort of happened as you describe, but not really? It only kind of blocked you from playing the games?
This is really confusing.
Also: I'm going to assume you mean "steamworks" and not "Steamplay". If so, then if you couldn't open Steam than that is why those games wouldn't work. Steamplay, a system by the way that is optional, only checks to make sure the game is launched from the Steam platform. It's not some "always online" DRM or some such thing.
Tell me again how Valve is such a benevolent and consumer friendly company so I can have a great big laugh at your naivety.
Ah. So instead of owning up to the fact that I refuted your prior points, you're going to give me some dubious story of how all this "sorta happened to you" and then follow that up with a condescending insult.
Classy. Really classy.
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On a side note: If you're buying in digital distribution, and aren't bothering to take the responsibility to back-up the games you've purchased
(as I said in my previous post), than you're openly asking for trouble.
Not making the back-ups is the equivalent of buying a game on disc, then tossing the disc in the bin, and then hoping no one takes the trash out lest you not be able to go back and get the disc at a later date.