Steve Jobs has Passed Away!? (UPDATED)

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gabe12301

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Peteron said:
Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
Go without your PC, your MP3 Player, Your tablet (if you had one) and remove all those from your life. That is what would have happened in Steve Jobs didn't exist.

Okay, I am being a little over-dramatic however he was a revolutionary. Most of the things were thought of by him. They were perfected again and again by him. Others could have done it, however who knows. It could have taken years longer.
You do realize apple didn't do ANY of those first. Just slapped a shiny logo on it and called it "magical".

OT: I personally don't really care. He's like everyone else but he's rich and has fanboys. He's like the 108 other people that died while I was typing this. But he owns a mansion so I guess he's better right?
 

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Neronium said:
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I just found out myself. Even if you aren't an Apple fanboy or a Mac user (PC person here), but Steve Jobs really did have quite an impact on our modern life more so than a lot of others. I mean with the IPod to the IPad, many if these things many of us have an have to thank Steve for helping to develop. Saying that he had no influence on contemporary life would be considerably false. It is sad to see that he has passed, but I have seen that his health was failing. Rest in peace Mr. Jobs, you will be missed.
His revolultion of the touch interface and the digital distribution markets won't be what defines him for thousands of years- It will be that he was the one that brought the graphical interface to the general population.
True, but what I meant by what I said was how nowadays it is common to see people walking around listening to their iPods or using their iPads. Heck, my local news station can be seen using their iPads while on the air. But what you said is probably more of his legacy than what I said.
I agree. What you said was more of his influence on the world today and what I said was more about his contribution to humanity as a whole.
 

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gabe12301 said:
Capitano Segnaposto said:
Peteron said:
Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
Go without your PC, your MP3 Player, Your tablet (if you had one) and remove all those from your life. That is what would have happened in Steve Jobs didn't exist.

Okay, I am being a little over-dramatic however he was a revolutionary. Most of the things were thought of by him. They were perfected again and again by him. Others could have done it, however who knows. It could have taken years longer.
You do realize apple didn't do ANY of those first. Just slapped a shiny logo on it and called it "magical".

OT: I personally don't really care. He's like everyone else but he's rich and has fanboys. He's like the 108 other people that died while I was typing this. But he owns a mansion so I guess he's better right?
Because being the first person to distribute a computer with a graphical interface = he just slapped a logo on it and called it a day, right? As much as you want to deny it, he is one of the most important people in the history of technology, and he will be remembered as such for a long, long time.
 

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Even thought the iphone and ipod were the only products I could stand to use (don't like Mac) its still sad. True pioneer of consumer computer products.
 

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By that argument, you shouldn't care even if it was your mother that died. After all, she is just another person that passed away, right?
Not really. Because to him, his mother is not just "another person". He's saying he had no personal connection to Jobs. You must be a computer at some university that does not understand humans that well. Further evidence compounding this would seem to be that you equate Steve Jobs to a mother. It's okay computer, I will explain for you how humans work. You see, people tend to form emotional connections to those they know personally. It is unlikely he will care more simply because you demand it. If you wanted to get literal about it however computer, it's unlikely his mother is anyone famous. You must have been programmed for melodrama, computer.

For that matter, did he really have a positive impact, computer? So you like his products, perhaps you are even one of them, and yet people report that they feel they have fewer real friends than ever.
http://www.robertnotter.com/articles/quality-relationships.pdf

Sorry to be snarky, but your response was well, odd.
 

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Funny I thought he was doing just fine. How sudden. What will become of the company now? Sometimes when the founders of a company dies the whole thing changes. Just look at what cartoon network was before the founders died. Now look at it afterwards. There are some real differences.
Question: What Founders are you talking about? Hannah-Barbera? im just curious

OT: I have never owned an apple product but I respect the man and I am sad to see him go.
Yeah those people but a couple others. People like chuck jones and tex avery and a couple other people made up a lot of the old cartoons that got cartoon network up and running with a large host of cartoons for the viewers to watch. Once they started disappearing the network began to shift away from the old cartoons to cartoon network originals. And then when those went away. Well watch cartoon network right now. That's what happened.
 

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Sleekit said:
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PC...no, he stole that from someone else
assuming you mean the "modern" OS and not "the PC" which even my cat could tell you was invented at IBM...

wikipedia said:
In January 1981, Steve Jobs completely took over the Macintosh project. Jobs and a number of Apple engineers visited Xerox PARC in December 1979, three months after the Lisa and Macintosh projects had begun. After hearing about the pioneering GUI technology being developed at Xerox PARC from former Xerox employees like Raskin, Jobs negotiated a visit to see the Xerox Alto computer and Smalltalk development tools in exchange for Apple stock options. The final Lisa and Macintosh operating systems mostly used concepts from the Xerox Alto, but many elements of the graphical user interface were created by Apple including the menubar, pop-up menus and the concepts of drag and drop and direct manipulation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_history#Early_history

erztez said:
Jobs was no revolutionary. He was good at marketing, I'll give him that, but the man never had an original thought.
wikipedia said:
Jobs is listed as either primary inventor or co-inventor in 338 US patents or patent applications related to a range of technologies from actual computer and portable devices to user interfaces (including touch-based), speakers, keyboards, power adapters, staircases, clasps, sleeves, lanyards and packages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Inventions
Thanks for proving my point there...coming up with a new way to open the trunk doesn't mean you invented the car.

For your second point, trying to trademark the letter "i" doesn't mean you invented it.
The US patent law is insane and always has been.
 

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brainslurper said:
Because being the first person to distribute a computer with a graphical interface = he just slapped a logo on it and called it a day, right? As much as you want to deny it, he is one of the most important people in the history of technology, and he will be remembered as such for a long, long time.
Actually, yes. That's exactly what that means. Especially if you achieve said primacy by stealing the idea and patenting it before the real creators can.
I don't deny Jobs was one of the most important people in the history of technology, but then so was Pope Gregory IX(look it up). Just because you're "important", doesn't make you necessary... or helpful.
 

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gabe12301 said:
Capitano Segnaposto said:
Peteron said:
Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
Go without your PC, your MP3 Player, Your tablet (if you had one) and remove all those from your life. That is what would have happened in Steve Jobs didn't exist.

Okay, I am being a little over-dramatic however he was a revolutionary. Most of the things were thought of by him. They were perfected again and again by him. Others could have done it, however who knows. It could have taken years longer.
You do realize apple didn't do ANY of those first. Just slapped a shiny logo on it and called it "magical".

OT: I personally don't really care. He's like everyone else but he's rich and has fanboys. He's like the 108 other people that died while I was typing this. But he owns a mansion so I guess he's better right?
The Apple 1 can be considered the first personal computer. That's a pretty significant first.
Bringing the GUI to market wasn't just a case of slapping their own logo on an existing product either (like Microsoft did with their DOS - they bought that from somebody else and rebranded it). Apple Macintosh was an insanely good hardware and software combination for 1984.
The touchscreen smartphone was invented by Apple, the current definition of tablet (multitouch, light, $500 or less, phone processor and phone OS) was invented by Apple....

Don't forget that Steve Jobs was also responsible for Pixar and NeXT Computer.

Steve Jobs turned a lot of things he touched into gold. You just can't deny that.
 

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Soggy Toast said:
erztez said:
Jobs was no revolutionary. He was good at marketing, I'll give him that, but the man never had an original thought.
He invented the iPod!
For the sake of my sanity I choose to believe that you are joking.
If anyone "invented" the iPod, it was Jon Rubinstein, Jobs just gave a general order.
 

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His influence on technology and media, as an innovative, fundamental, driving force, has changed the way we interact, consume, create and so much more. His passion for his work will resonate through the ages, and be seen for lifetimes. Without him, so much of the landscape of media and technology, both on a direct user end, and a market side, would be radically different. I was by no stretch of the imagination one of Apples biggest fans, in fact in it's later years, I was and am quite derisive of the likes of the macbook pro, considering them nigh of veblen good's, but I would be ignorant to dismiss what the man behind the company meant to all of us here today.

I put to you, without the NeXT, what would have become of the internet?

Rest in Awesome, Steve.

My thought's go to his wife and children; I wish them strength, support and solace in this difficult time.
 

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Not a surprise. I remember reading that it said he had aids on wikileaks or something.

But honestly, I don't really care.
 

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Must... resist... urge... to make... new version joke...
In all seriousness though, even though I did not agree with his business practices or his view of "innovation", he was still an important figure of this century and the last. RIP Mr. Jobs.
 

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brainslurper said:
gabe12301 said:
Capitano Segnaposto said:
Peteron said:
Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
Go without your PC, your MP3 Player, Your tablet (if you had one) and remove all those from your life. That is what would have happened in Steve Jobs didn't exist.

Okay, I am being a little over-dramatic however he was a revolutionary. Most of the things were thought of by him. They were perfected again and again by him. Others could have done it, however who knows. It could have taken years longer.
You do realize apple didn't do ANY of those first. Just slapped a shiny logo on it and called it "magical".

OT: I personally don't really care. He's like everyone else but he's rich and has fanboys. He's like the 108 other people that died while I was typing this. But he owns a mansion so I guess he's better right?
Because being the first person to distribute a computer with a graphical interface = he just slapped a logo on it and called it a day, right? As much as you want to deny it, he is one of the most important people in the history of technology, and he will be remembered as such for a long, long time.

Google Jef Raskin he had way more to do with that than Steve.
 

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I can't necessarily call myself an Apple supporter per se, but the things he did for a lot of people are inspiring. RIP Steve.
 

erztez

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Been a long, LONG time since I've seen someone this jealous of another people. Lumping all 338 patents into your "trademarking the letter i" is hysterical. Now make sure to quote me and cry about a fallacy argument kiddo.
Ok then, should I take them 1 by 1?
Or can I just take the first five?

1: 8,032,843: User interface for providing consolidation and access: Methods and systems for providing graphical user interfaces are described. To provide greater access and consolidation to frequently used items in the graphical user interface, a userbar is established which includes a plurality of item representations. To permit a greater number of items to reside in the userbar, a magnification function can be provided which magnifies items within the userbar when they are proximate the cursor associated with the graphical user interface.

Note, this was filed in 2009...You call that an INVENTION? I've been using freeware plugins like that for about 5 years...

2: D645,860: Computing device: Can't even find out what it's supposed to BE, much less how "inventive" it actually is.

3: D645,037: Handheld portable computing device: See above

4: D644,218: Electronic device with cover: Rofl, no other comment.

5: D643,403: Media player: oh c'mon



You know, I really wanted to do at least a few more, but then I stared contemplating taking out the gun and joining Steve, so, please forgive my lack of motivation.
 

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erztez said:
Soggy Toast said:
erztez said:
Jobs was no revolutionary. He was good at marketing, I'll give him that, but the man never had an original thought.
He invented the iPod!
For the sake of my sanity I choose to believe that you are joking.
If anyone "invented" the iPod, it was Jon Rubinstein, Jobs just gave a general order.
You honestly thought that I meant that Jobs SINGLE-HANDEDLY made the iPod?
 

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Jobs was among a tiny handful of people who saw any future in personal computers. He was the only one with the vision to see it as a tool for creation and entertainment.

He is like the Henry Ford of the computing industry. He didn't invent the first one, but he made the best one that everybody everywhere could own.

In these times of economic strife, Steve Jobs was at the helm of a luxury item company that passed Exxon Mobil in overall worth.

Fucking visionary doesn't begin to describe the man. Everything we do now with any computing device of any kind has its roots in Steve Jobs. He shaped the history of the world.