Stolen Pixels #224: An Incredible Value
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Well $50 a year was also pretty ridiculous, but now with this increase you could save your money for a completely different game, when the multiplayer is already built into the other games.Alfador_VII said:I'm loving the new wide format, thanks for listening to us
As to the Xbox Live increase, I don't have a 360 myself at the moment, but I don't see a problem with a relatively small price rise after a few years.
It's like paying to get into a cheap bar filled with bar-rats, then to get within 20 feet of the bar you must pay the same price you payed to get in. I'll let you scrutinize that as you may.
This is a real pain for me, because i'm addicted to the BFBC2 multiplayer, and my computer is too out-dated, and I am too broke to upgrade. So i'll have to find ways to feed this addiction soon.
I never had the fortune to read any Stolen Pixels comics and found this one to be very good!
I'm glad I also have a PS3 because Live is just not worth the price for how little I play online games. Most of my disinterest for online games is rooted in the bilious few that ruin the community. I would rather enjoy a new-release single player game once a year where I don't have to be exposed to senseless bigotry, prejudice, and immaturity
I'm glad I also have a PS3 because Live is just not worth the price for how little I play online games. Most of my disinterest for online games is rooted in the bilious few that ruin the community. I would rather enjoy a new-release single player game once a year where I don't have to be exposed to senseless bigotry, prejudice, and immaturity
I have a 360 that may not be "Kinect Ready" if there is a requirement, but if given the option I would simply buy the Wii just for the exclusives.Tom Phoenix said:
Okay I'm not one to post or even touch the comments section over half the time but what Microsoft is doing for the Xbox Live community (for those of us who are willing to put money forward for their "premium" content)they have already made deals with Last.fm, Twitter, Facebook, have integrated the Zune market place with the Xbox, the extensive XBLA line up, along side indie games and the games on demand, Netflix, they are now adding Hulu and ESPN to the line up along side the vast number of serves they already offer. so i price jump of $10 to me seems like a reasonable marketing strategy. And no matter what you do you will get insulted by a five year old not matter if console or pc.
The reason Xbox can 'get away' with it, is they are still the best console multi-player option around.
Shamus is right, the reason the Wii has been so successful has been the price and the gigantic age group that will play it. However, Nintendo will never rise beyond that success, is the giant audience they targeted, for the most part, don't buy games on a monthly or even semi-annual basis. My grandparents bought a Wii, they bought Wii Sports and Wii Fit. They've never bought another game. Wii has free multi-player but not enough games built for multi that make that the reason to own one.
Playstation also has free multiplayer and they have some solid titles, however, they don't have Halo or Gears of War. Now maybe only frat boys and 10 year old kids who just discovered curse words buy those two games, but they'll buy every single one they release and act like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Modern Warfare 2 sold over 7 million copies the first day and over 55% of that was on the 360, 33% on the PS3. Don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot more to gaming and console gaming than just FPS titles, but if there's one genre that multi-player is the focus, that's the one.
As for PC gaming, it's not even in the footrace anymore, it's just holding on to what it has. 20 years ago, FPS was dominant on PC and a rare sight on a console with usually poor controls. 10 years ago it was getting closer to an even match up, and now any FPS title comes out on a console, and than maybe also on a PC, honestly, what's the last exclusive PC FPS title? In a gaming age where developers are afraid to dump millions of dollars on anything that's not a sure bet, PC gaming is mostly the next MMO or the next RTS coming out as those remain the only two genres that the controls or the number of players is far better than a console, and in 10 years I'd be surprised if consoles aren't top dog on those too.
Xbox for whatever the flaws it has, truly falls in it's own niche between the Wii and the PS3. It's more expensive than the Wii but i'll buy 20 or 30 more games for 360 before Wii has another title I could care about. It has better multi, even if you have to pay for it. It was cheaper than Sony at release (and still cheaper now even though they've both gone down)and it has more big name titles than the PS3. Now, Sony is catching up in that department, but they still need an exclusive title that gets everyone's attention for awhile.
So, I think Microsoft is raising it's prices because they can, because most people will grumble quietly to themselves and pay it anyway. As for me, I find it annoying and greedy, but yeah, i'll probably pay it anyway.
(Oh, and I have all 3 consoles and a PC game and I play games on all of them! Except the Wii, the Wii mostly sits there sad and unused urging me to pick up the new Mario title.)
Shamus is right, the reason the Wii has been so successful has been the price and the gigantic age group that will play it. However, Nintendo will never rise beyond that success, is the giant audience they targeted, for the most part, don't buy games on a monthly or even semi-annual basis. My grandparents bought a Wii, they bought Wii Sports and Wii Fit. They've never bought another game. Wii has free multi-player but not enough games built for multi that make that the reason to own one.
Playstation also has free multiplayer and they have some solid titles, however, they don't have Halo or Gears of War. Now maybe only frat boys and 10 year old kids who just discovered curse words buy those two games, but they'll buy every single one they release and act like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Modern Warfare 2 sold over 7 million copies the first day and over 55% of that was on the 360, 33% on the PS3. Don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot more to gaming and console gaming than just FPS titles, but if there's one genre that multi-player is the focus, that's the one.
As for PC gaming, it's not even in the footrace anymore, it's just holding on to what it has. 20 years ago, FPS was dominant on PC and a rare sight on a console with usually poor controls. 10 years ago it was getting closer to an even match up, and now any FPS title comes out on a console, and than maybe also on a PC, honestly, what's the last exclusive PC FPS title? In a gaming age where developers are afraid to dump millions of dollars on anything that's not a sure bet, PC gaming is mostly the next MMO or the next RTS coming out as those remain the only two genres that the controls or the number of players is far better than a console, and in 10 years I'd be surprised if consoles aren't top dog on those too.
Xbox for whatever the flaws it has, truly falls in it's own niche between the Wii and the PS3. It's more expensive than the Wii but i'll buy 20 or 30 more games for 360 before Wii has another title I could care about. It has better multi, even if you have to pay for it. It was cheaper than Sony at release (and still cheaper now even though they've both gone down)and it has more big name titles than the PS3. Now, Sony is catching up in that department, but they still need an exclusive title that gets everyone's attention for awhile.
So, I think Microsoft is raising it's prices because they can, because most people will grumble quietly to themselves and pay it anyway. As for me, I find it annoying and greedy, but yeah, i'll probably pay it anyway.
(Oh, and I have all 3 consoles and a PC game and I play games on all of them! Except the Wii, the Wii mostly sits there sad and unused urging me to pick up the new Mario title.)
i prefer the narrow format with the text to the side since you ax why i have no idea i just do so there
additionally is it just me or did the navigation tool bar disappear from the top and bottom of the comic
ok now thats sorted out onto the comic
that kid is alot like my brother i don't need to play online he can come over to my place and tell me that i can finish the objective if i wasn't too busy sucking
all it costs me is a couple of bags of chips a packet of biscuits and a bottle of coke
ok so maybe it would be cheaper to get cussed out by kids on X-Box live or Playstation network or what ever the Wii and Pu has
additionally is it just me or did the navigation tool bar disappear from the top and bottom of the comic
ok now thats sorted out onto the comic
that kid is alot like my brother i don't need to play online he can come over to my place and tell me that i can finish the objective if i wasn't too busy sucking
all it costs me is a couple of bags of chips a packet of biscuits and a bottle of coke
ok so maybe it would be cheaper to get cussed out by kids on X-Box live or Playstation network or what ever the Wii and Pu has
Diggin' the widescreen look too. And, as always, Microsoft continues to labor under the fantasy that people are clamoring for reasons to give them more money.
I actually don't mind the price hike. Maybe it'll make the parents of the kids under 18 playing M rated games rethink buying their Live subscriptions.
I'll pay the extra $10.00, because it's still less than $10.00 a month which is cheaper than what I payed for my WoW subscription. Microsoft is a business, and they like money for what they make, so I'm behind them 100% on charging more for Xbox Live.
I'll pay the extra $10.00, because it's still less than $10.00 a month which is cheaper than what I payed for my WoW subscription. Microsoft is a business, and they like money for what they make, so I'm behind them 100% on charging more for Xbox Live.
I may be mistaken; but I thought the price rise is only happening in the USA, Canada, UK and Australia.dogstile said:Well they certainly won't get an extra 10 a year from me.
I'm in the UK, no yearly price hike for me!
Anyways I'm in Ireland so I'm safe... for now.
Regarding the moral issue about the price hike: I think in comparison to Playstation Plus, it's a joke. With PS+ you firstly have an option not to pay it; and lose no multiplayer capabilities. And with the free/discounted content, it is well worth the price if you enjoy downloadable games.
M$ is just re-enforcing it's greedy, selfish image.
Well, it does effect the UK, but not the yearly priceJordo141 said:I may be mistaken; but I thought the price rise is only happening in the USA, Canada, UK and Australia.dogstile said:Well they certainly won't get an extra 10 a year from me.
I'm in the UK, no yearly price hike for me!
Anyways I'm in Ireland so I'm safe... for now.
Regarding the moral issue about the price hike: I think in comparison to Playstation Plus, it's a joke. With PS+ you firstly have an option not to pay it; and lose no multiplayer capabilities. And with the free/discounted content, it is well worth the price if you enjoy downloadable games.
M$ is just re-enforcing it's greedy, selfish image.
And while you think they're enforcing a greedy image, sony have been discussing payment plans for the PS3 for a long time. They're losing money on the console, so i don't really expect them to stay free forever.
In this election year, I vote for the wide format. Samsonguy approves of this message.
And I think we can mark 2010 as the year that Microsoft F&$%ed up and commited business sepuku. It just may take a while for the giant to die.
And I think we can mark 2010 as the year that Microsoft F&$%ed up and commited business sepuku. It just may take a while for the giant to die.
I thought patches and DLC were available with Xbox Live Silver (the free version)? I thought the only thing you payed for was being able to actually play online.Flig said:
Also, I'm with Flig, I like the old style significantly more.
Lastly, I've never understood the whole complaining about verbal abuse on Xbox Live... The only people I ever talk to are my friends, everyone else gets an auto-mute. It's... it's really easy. I've literally never had to deal with whiners/squeakers/idjits/racists etc.