Like Oblivion as well. Why does a crab have a set of lockpicks? Are they trying to infiltrate our locked structures from the ocean?
Stolen Pixels #7: Vulture Milk
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The death-thingy was always the main factor that after some time drove me away from most MMOs. I think one of the only MMOs that has a good way of dealing with "death" is EvE O.
Apart from the fact that it's really gartnd up when different rules are enforced for NPCs then for players the whole reborn thing destroys a very important aspect of the game.
Lets say the rule of unlimited lives applies to everybody and anything in the world, why in [fantasy world's god]'s name would someone give you a quest to assassinate his enemy when he knows he will be raised from the dead?
Don't get me wrong I am not totally against ressurection but I think there should be a few rules that aplly. For example in Baldur's Gate (at least in BG2) there were some high lvl spells and afaik even weapons that had a chance of totally destroying the body thus making ressurection impossible.
Now the chance/possibility version of instant death would kind of suck in an MMO where you just played who knows how long to get your character fully geared up.
But I think a good way to implement permadeath would be to maybe add some special areas where you don't have the possibility of ressurection, but for beating those areas you get some pretty epic gear.
And by epic gear I mean stuff that is really gartn distinctive from the rest of the world's equipment not some slightly discolored axe/sword/shield version ABC. (Oh and I also don't mean gartdamn laz0r charging gun in an medieval setting)
so long
UnterHund
p.s.: gart/gartdammit/gartn/... is some kind of personal swearing word if you can't guess...
Apart from the fact that it's really gartnd up when different rules are enforced for NPCs then for players the whole reborn thing destroys a very important aspect of the game.
Lets say the rule of unlimited lives applies to everybody and anything in the world, why in [fantasy world's god]'s name would someone give you a quest to assassinate his enemy when he knows he will be raised from the dead?
Don't get me wrong I am not totally against ressurection but I think there should be a few rules that aplly. For example in Baldur's Gate (at least in BG2) there were some high lvl spells and afaik even weapons that had a chance of totally destroying the body thus making ressurection impossible.
Now the chance/possibility version of instant death would kind of suck in an MMO where you just played who knows how long to get your character fully geared up.
But I think a good way to implement permadeath would be to maybe add some special areas where you don't have the possibility of ressurection, but for beating those areas you get some pretty epic gear.
And by epic gear I mean stuff that is really gartn distinctive from the rest of the world's equipment not some slightly discolored axe/sword/shield version ABC. (Oh and I also don't mean gartdamn laz0r charging gun in an medieval setting)
so long
UnterHund
p.s.: gart/gartdammit/gartn/... is some kind of personal swearing word if you can't guess...
I'm still trying to figure out how a two-foot-tall fishman coughs up a six-foot-long axe when I kill him.
I suppose he was holding in the same place you keep it once you pick it up. Which only leads to more questions.The Rogue Wolf said:
I have to say though, WoW is better about things like this than other games... while I do recall getting apparently fully processed food items from killing animals, you could never get money from killing animals (directly, you could always sell the vendor trash), and you couldn't get things like cloth from animals, only from humanoids. I do not think it is weird that you would occasionally kill an ostrich looking bird thing and get a necklace, or things that might logically make sense such as that...
But yeah, fully processed / cooked food from monster animals was always a bit jarring.
But yeah, fully processed / cooked food from monster animals was always a bit jarring.
I have to admit that my wife, boys, and I have had similar discussions, but I don't find the "who cares 'why' it's carrying that; 'HOW' is it carrying that" scenario nearly as jarring - from an immersion standpoint - as the fact that in many cities throughout Azeroth and in Outland there's nowhere to sit. Oh, sure, you can just drop yer butt on the floor/ground/simulacrum of something comfy, but there isn't a usable chair, bench, La-Z-Boy ANYWHERE. It's one of the things that makes me hate Night Elves with a blinding passion, actually.
Maybe it's just me and my violent anal-retentiveness, but it just *feels wrong* logging out while my toon is just ... standing there. When *I'm* not going to be doing anything for twelve hours or more, I'd surely rather have a seat than be left standing...
Maybe it's just me and my violent anal-retentiveness, but it just *feels wrong* logging out while my toon is just ... standing there. When *I'm* not going to be doing anything for twelve hours or more, I'd surely rather have a seat than be left standing...
I'm not a high enough level to say "FUCK YOU I LOVE VULTURE MILK!" so I have no choice but to say "Good work, this was funny"
(although, some variety in the screenshots would have been nice - it felt like it was in the same camera angle the whole time)
(although, some variety in the screenshots would have been nice - it felt like it was in the same camera angle the whole time)
To quote:
"you'll need to be more than halfway to godhood before you're allowed to face the challenge and responsibility of eating pie."
of COURSE you need to be near godlike... this is PIE after all.
"you'll need to be more than halfway to godhood before you're allowed to face the challenge and responsibility of eating pie."
of COURSE you need to be near godlike... this is PIE after all.
So I'm browsing through these, Master Root, because I wasn't aware of these comics' existence (being one of those pesky young whipper-snappers that came here just for ZP and stayed on afterwards) and would like to bring your comment into the AMAZING WORLD OF TOMORROW (there's flying cars now, honest!) with the irony that the latest episode of Unforgotten Realms where this exact scenario was mentioned!The_root_of_all_evil said:
This is some kind of divine providence, I swear. The gods themselves WANT me to read Stolen Pixels!
Odd, I knew that I'd said something similar after UR, but with 7000+ posts to track through...Nerdfury said:
Since this thread is semi-back-from-the-dead, I'll just mention to any readers that Lord of the Rings Online has the drops thing figured out pretty decently. The standard issues still apply ("Why the hell doesn't this boar have a head? Why didn't that bear that just mauled me with a skill called 'Armour Rend' not have ANY claws?"), but the drops are quite logical. Intelligent humanoids are the only things that drop food and potions, for example. Animals never drop money, only pelts and small trophies that you can sell. You'll never get a [Broken Greatsword] from a swamp-fly, but if you're fighting orcs you'll likely have a full stack of them in 10 minutes.
Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
"I'm not sure what it means when the unaltered mechanics of your videogame can serve as the punchline for a joke, but it probably isn't a hallmark of success in the area of game design."
Or maybe joke design.....
Actually no, I've seen many a joke with the same premise that was actually funny.
I've been reading your comics that are on the Escapist, and honestly, the one only one so far that has even made me smile is where the orc suggests they should tell the Horde recruit to get squirrels tusks next time.
However, you seem to have a following from somewhere, so I'll continue reading your comics and post again when I get through them.
Or maybe joke design.....
Actually no, I've seen many a joke with the same premise that was actually funny.
I've been reading your comics that are on the Escapist, and honestly, the one only one so far that has even made me smile is where the orc suggests they should tell the Horde recruit to get squirrels tusks next time.
However, you seem to have a following from somewhere, so I'll continue reading your comics and post again when I get through them.