Stop paying for xbox repairs!

[CyberAkuma]

If you think that there's is something as a "permanent fix" to the RROD problem, then you have obviously no clue.

The RRoD happends because of a bad(cheap) lead-free solder on the Xboxes making the motherboard warp/crack. To say that is irrevisible is just ludicrous.

The only thing you can do is avoid getting the RRoD with better cooling. (voids your warranty)
Yu cannot however escape it fully. ot even XBox 360 Elites. (My friends Xbox Elite has RRoD multiple times).

The fact that they had to use the towel trick in the video a couple of times to make it work should make it clear how dubious this "fix" is.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

If you think that there's is something as a "permanent fix" to the RROD problem, then you have obviously no clue.

The RRoD happends because of a bad(cheap) lead-free solder on the Xboxes making the motherboard warp/crack. To say that is irrevisible is just ludicrous.

The only thing you can do is avoid getting the RRoD with better cooling. (voids your warranty)
Yu cannot however escape it fully. ot even XBox 360 Elites. (My friends Xbox Elite has RRoD multiple times).

I was under the impression that the problem was caused by the GPU overheating....

 

[CyberAkuma]

I was under the impression that the problem was caused by the GPU overheating....

The GPU doesn't overheat. The problem is that the heat coming from the GPU (and faulty cheap GPU cooling) gets on the solder points on the Xbox 360.
The soldering type they chose for the Xbox 360 is not lead-based making the soldering points warp and/or crack.

if it was just the GPU that was overheating then it would just shut down the console until the GPU is cool enough to run again. It wouldn't make the Xbox360 permanently inoperable.
PCs experience GPU overheating quite often if your PC case has shitty cooling.

Sadly, Xbox360 RRoD is way more severe.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

I was under the impression that the problem was caused by the GPU overheating....

The GPU doesn't overheat. The problem is that the heat coming from the GPU (and faulty cheap GPU cooling) gets on the solder points on the Xbox 360.
The soldering type they chose for the Xbox 360 is not lead-based making the soldering points warp and/or crack.

if it was just the GPU that was overheating then it would just shut down the console until the GPU is cool enough to run again. It wouldn't make the Xbox360 permanently inoperable.
PCs experience GPU overheating quite often if your PC case has shitty cooling.

Sadly, Xbox360 RRoD is way more severe.

Interesting... well, thanks for clarifying that... makes me wonder how tough it would be to re-solder the connections, hypothetically....

 

[chunkynut]

I was under the impression that the problem was caused by the GPU overheating....

The GPU doesn't overheat. The problem is that the heat coming from the GPU (and faulty cheap GPU cooling) gets on the solder points on the Xbox 360.
The soldering type they chose for the Xbox 360 is not lead-based making the soldering points warp and/or crack.

if it was just the GPU that was overheating then it would just shut down the console until the GPU is cool enough to run again. It wouldn't make the Xbox360 permanently inoperable.
PCs experience GPU overheating quite often if your PC case has shitty cooling.

Sadly, Xbox360 RRoD is way more severe.

Interesting... well, thanks for clarifying that... makes me wonder how tough it would be to re-solder the connections, hypothetically....

The motherboards also warp in addition to the soldering problem and when I sent my xbox back they also replaced the disk drive (or that also had a fault and they replaced the whole thing i think).

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

RRoD is a free fix because it was their fault it happens. Anything else is more than likely your fault, so you should have to pay for it. Fixing it yourself unless you're licensed to do so voids your warranty, and if it doesn't work you're fucked.

Actually, any problem I've ever seen with an X-Box falls under the category of "Microsoft's Fault". The only reason they pay for the red ring was because the problem had become so widespread that the scandal threatened to sink the product.

I'd like to know what the failure rate is for the early x-boxes - it has to be pushing 50% or more.

 

[Zippy1313]

There is still no excuse to have to send it in to get repaired all the time because Microsoft couldn't make it right the first time. When I reached 5 360's I then decided to get a PS3 to have when the 360 died. I have since started to play the PS3 more than the 360 because I don't have to worry about it dying on me.

The 360's death rate is 68%. They shouldn't be putting out such defective hardware. If they had fixed the problem, they would have been the Number 1 console this generation. Now, I could see Sony taking it if they would drop the price on the PS3.

 

[chunkynut]

Now, I could see Sony taking it if they would drop the price on the PS3.

IMO only if they make PSN competative with XBLive. XBox Live features far exceed those on PSN (i have both consoles and yes I know you have to pay for XBLive).

Edit: Also I've only had 1 red ring and i've had an 360 for about 3 years (i know i'm probably just lucky)

 

[ROFLross]

Didn't have to pay for my repair, they did everything for free, including picking it up; the service was good too because they didn't have it very long before they sent it back.

 

[McClaud]

Same here -

I've never had to pay for my one XBox repair. It was free.

Now, when a defective piece in my PS3 broke, it was also free EXCEPT I had to pay to ship it and waited way too long for it to be returned to me. Sony would do well to splurge a little money in their Customer Service. They'd get more of my money that way.

And Sony has already told us five times now that they won't be lowering the price of the PS3 anytime soon. And when the new bundle comes out, it's going to be right back up there where it was pre-price drop. But that's not an issue, since I already have one, you see.

 

[Firia]

You know, more often than not Microsoft just sends you a new 360 with your HDD on it. they've done that with me 6x.

EDIT: complete with the 'new product' smell that is oh so sweet.

Yaknow, the smart consumer in me just won't buy cheap products, no matter how sweet it smells.

 

[Syphonz]

You know, more often than not Microsoft just sends you a new 360 with your HDD on it. they've done that with me 6x.

EDIT: complete with the 'new product' smell that is oh so sweet.

Yaknow, the smart consumer in me just won't buy cheap products, no matter how sweet it smells.

You get what you pay for, I argue that. And that's why I also haven't turned it on since getting it back. My PC, PS3, and Wii sort out all my needs.

 

[Merciless.Fire]

You know, more often than not Microsoft just sends you a new 360 with your HDD on it. they've done that with me 6x.

EDIT: complete with the 'new product' smell that is oh so sweet.

But the dissatisfaction that you've been duped by the world's most sinister corporation as well, no?

 

[Syphonz]

You know, more often than not Microsoft just sends you a new 360 with your HDD on it. they've done that with me 6x.

EDIT: complete with the 'new product' smell that is oh so sweet.

But the dissatisfaction that you've been duped by the world's most sinister corporation as well, no?

think about it, they've probably made two or three times as many Xbox's being sold cause they need to keep replacing them.. Who's the real winner here? Can't be Microsoft.

 

[DigitalSushi]

I was under the impression that the problem was caused by the GPU overheating....

The GPU doesn't overheat. The problem is that the heat coming from the GPU (and faulty cheap GPU cooling) gets on the solder points on the Xbox 360.
The soldering type they chose for the Xbox 360 is not lead-based making the soldering points warp and/or crack.

if it was just the GPU that was overheating then it would just shut down the console until the GPU is cool enough to run again. It wouldn't make the Xbox360 permanently inoperable.
PCs experience GPU overheating quite often if your PC case has shitty cooling.

Sadly, Xbox360 RRoD is way more severe.

Interesting... well, thanks for clarifying that... makes me wonder how tough it would be to re-solder the connections, hypothetically....

you'd end up blowing all the transistors, from the heat on the soldering iron, you need about a million heatsink on the board to stop it from blowing.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

so can anyone tell me if letting the machine cool down for 20 mins every couple of hours can prevent rrod?

I've had the 360 a year, have sometimes left it on for up to 6 or 7 hours and have never had it die but everyone else I know who has one has had rrod so I live in fear...

 

[Syphonz]

so can anyone tell me if letting the machine cool down for 20 mins every couple of hours can prevent rrod?

I've had the 360 a year, have sometimes left it on for up to 6 or 7 hours and have never had it die but everyone else I know who has one has had rrod so I live in fear...

as far as i know, always be stood up on its side, never put it on carpet..have some fans blowing on it with the cover off while playing. That's my plan of attack next time I ever decide to turn it on... I'm just nervous right now.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

really? i always heard that you should keep it flat, but raised. I have it sat on some video boxes making sure not to cover any fans

having it on a carpet seems indeed to be a bad idea...

it's amazing and a little infuriating that microsoft have no official guidelines anywhere for how to avoid it.

 

[Ionami]

Now, when a defective piece in my PS3 broke, it was also free EXCEPT I had to pay to ship it and waited way too long for it to be returned to me. Sony would do well to splurge a little money in their Customer Service. They'd get more of my money that way.

By making their repairs free, they'd get more of your money? What drugs are you on? Like you're going to tip them? You're paying the S & H company, not Sony. And if Xbox 360's didn't die every 32 seconds, Microsoft would make you pay for S & H too. And I own both consoles, so I'm not being a fanboy. I like them both for different reasons. But your points are either weak or nonsensical.

Right now I'm about to recieve Xbox number 4 thanks to RRoD, whereas I'm still on my first PS3. And although it's free to send it off, I bought the PS3 6 months before I bought my first 360. So I dunno, I'd be okay with paying for S & H to send the PS3 off if it breaks.

 

[Syphonz]

Some stores like Gamestop have warentees for PS3's that break they just give you a new one right there. mind you it does cost another 100 bucks. But you can never be too careful with the technology thats released now.