Strange PSN theory?

[Bulletinmybrain]

Well from what I heard from a friend women aren't crucified for being gamers on home. Unlike most of xbl >.>. They are followed around quite frequently though.

Where does any of that come from, really? Home isn't out yet and from my Live experience female gamers aren't given harsh treatment there.

It's in Beta testing, making a conclusion before it even comes out is pointless though.

Really it depends on which games you play on XBL which will determine the amount of griefers, on Halo 3 you will probably get the most and you will get a lot less on SC4.

Pretending PS3 owners are a different breed to 360 owners is ridiculous, gamers will always be gamers whichever system you play on.

One of the major arguements in the PS3 vs 360 battle is that you have to pay for XBL, which isn't really that much of a problem when you consider everyone who does play XBL don't have any complaints about paying for it.

Not valid how? Will people somehow act different when it comes out?

I was stating from my personal experience what happens on XBl compared to PSN with women, most of this coming from playing COD4 which could be the culprit of it all enticing those damn squeekys kids and wooting dickwaving FPS players.

 

[Aardvark]

I'm sure if Sony managed to fill their catalog with fun and interesting exclusives that everybody wanted to play, the general etiquette of the populace would drop sharply, but it likely wouldn't hit Live standards, as the initial layout for the PS3 runs into something approaching that of human organs. Raising that kind of scratch from paper runs, Burger King and begging your mum is significantly harder, thus many simply settle for the 360 and spend their time turning Live into a cesspit of homophobia, racism and heavy banhammers.

 

[shatnershaman]

Then you must also be a 6 year old with downs syndrome. Becasue everyone I speak to thinks that it is much more like this:

90% cunts
7% normal
2.6% Awesome
0.4% goddly

Because in no way can being shouted at down a headset by a pre-pubesent moron be seen as fun, or good. Unless you are into that kind of thing.

I said I want a clean fight, 1 demerit point. Now get back in there and try to avoid Eldritch Warlord left hook.

 

[Crunchy English]

Ugh, sorry I brought it up. This went badly. Does anyone know how to contact any mods that might be online? If I wanted a 360 vs. PS3 pissing contest, I can always go on IGN or my local High School.

 

[Jumplion]

PSN vs. XBL round 4000

Now I want a clean fight. No 1337 speak. No direct insults. and NO references to anyone's mother.

0_0
*puts away pictures of Shatnershamans mother he found on the internet*

Now what am I supposed to do? Make logical and relevant points? On the internet?!

Holy crap! Did you just use two zeros and made them into a sortof emoticon?!?! HOLY CRAP1

:Y

The way I see it, XBL people are paying customers and customers like to sue, so MS can't ban as many people nor do they ban the right people. PSN, with a serious lack of headsets, still has a good community without many idiots, and since there arn't that many headsets, people don't feel the need to be idiotic.

I'm serious, every time me and my friends use a headset, we act like complete morons and the very beings that we despise on LIVE.

It's.....contageous....

 

[D_987]

Becasue everyone I speak to thinks

*sigh*

Go look up the word opinion...

 

[AceDiamond]

That theory falls apart by the fact that people on the PsN do not act like jackasses the whole time. In fact, paying for live gives people a sense of entitlement, making them feel like they can act however they want. So paying for Live makes it worse.

Yes I'm sure that's exactly what the problem is, not the fact that there are hardly as many people on PSN as there are on XBL and thus the number of smacktards is lower. No, it must be some really dumb theory like "paying for it makes you a jerk"

Also I tend to not run into said smacktards when I play on Live so this is a really big anomaly wouldn't you say.

 

[D_987]

That theory falls apart by the fact that people on the PsN do not act like jackasses the whole time. In fact, paying for live gives people a sense of entitlement, making them feel like they can act however they want. So paying for Live makes it worse.

Yes I'm sure that's exactly what the problem is, not the fact that there are hardly as many people on PSN as there are on XBL and thus the number of smacktards is lower. No, it must be some really dumb theory like "paying for it makes you a jerk"

Also I tend to not run into said smacktards when I play on Live so this is a really big anomaly wouldn't you say.

This and the fact nearly everyone on live has a microphone. Live has a bad reputation - as a result people make up laughable figures (see above) to try and claim its full of "jackasses".

The very people who play on live tell you otherwise - yet you ignore us...makes perfect sense to me!

 

[Aardvark]

fun & interesting = popular?

not always.

the beauty of the ps3's exclusives is that they manage to be fun and interesting and don't necessarily cater to the mainstream.

Resistance... Drakes Fortune... MSG4...

If you need to be an indie gamer to enjoy them, then pardon me while I take up my Lancer and continue the fight against the Morlocks.

Mainstream/indie/whatever doesn't factor into it. The 360 has a number of wonderful indie titles too. All consoles do. The proportions of mainstream to indie are fairly uniform across the platforms, with the PC standing gloriously over all, flexing its giant Indie muscles and urinating in the river of your 4th gen console ancestors.

 

[Zersy]

So there's this new theory floating around, I saw it on GT's Bonus Round, and in the shop where I work. Apparently, PSN being free is actually detracting from the experience. The idea goes like this:

People don't pay to play on PSN, and therefore it is difficult to deny them the privilege. Basically, a one month ban on XBL is costing you money and the threat of that ban keeps people in line. Without anything at risk on the network, people behave even WORSE than they do on Xbox Live. This creates a less enjoyable play enivornment and keeps the online population low.

I don't know how much stock I put in this theory, but it's come up a couple times today and its pretty interesting. Also, I can't afford a PS3, free online or not, so I have no opportunity to test it.

well xbox live has rules and human nature is to try to bend or brake the rules this gives them a sense of power .PSN has no rules so when people are being (you know) they are just retards like my friend who loves to insult and swear on the it (ofcoyrse i shut him up or mute him)

bottom line it all comes down to whether the gamer on the headset has a IQ higher then 5

 

[D_987]

So, you think your opinion is somehow better than his opinion?

Yes because I gain my evidence from a primary source, he gained his from a secondary source, therefore my evidence is more relaible.

 

[ThePlasmatizer]

Well from what I heard from a friend women aren't crucified for being gamers on home. Unlike most of xbl >.>. They are followed around quite frequently though.

Where does any of that come from, really? Home isn't out yet and from my Live experience female gamers aren't given harsh treatment there.

It's in Beta testing, making a conclusion before it even comes out is pointless though.

Really it depends on which games you play on XBL which will determine the amount of griefers, on Halo 3 you will probably get the most and you will get a lot less on SC4.

Pretending PS3 owners are a different breed to 360 owners is ridiculous, gamers will always be gamers whichever system you play on.

One of the major arguements in the PS3 vs 360 battle is that you have to pay for XBL, which isn't really that much of a problem when you consider everyone who does play XBL don't have any complaints about paying for it.

Not valid how? Will people somehow act different when it comes out?

I was stating from my personal experience what happens on XBl compared to PSN with women, most of this coming from playing COD4 which could be the culprit of it all enticing those damn squeekys kids and wooting dickwaving FPS players.

Not valid because it isn't in use by the entire community yet so you can't draw a conclusion on a small test group.

So your personal experience is definitive?

 

[D_987]

So, you think your opinion is somehow better than his opinion?

Yes because I gain my evidence from a primary source, he gained his from a secondary source, therefore my evidence is more relaible.[/quote]You pulled your evidence from a remarkably small sample size, so both are irrelevant.[/quote]

Yep, because playing on Xbox live for over a year gives me no chance of understanding what the general community is really like - particularly on popualar games such as COD4 and Halo 3 where I will have played with hundreds of diffrent players every session.

 

[shatnershaman]

That theory falls apart by the fact that people on the PsN do not act like jackasses the whole time. In fact, paying for live gives people a sense of entitlement, making them feel like they can act however they want. So paying for Live makes it worse.

Yes I'm sure that's exactly what the problem is, not the fact that there are hardly as many people on PSN as there are on XBL and thus the number of smacktards is lower. No, it must be some really dumb theory like "paying for it makes you a jerk"

Also I tend to not run into said smacktards when I play on Live so this is a really big anomaly wouldn't you say.

http://kotaku.com/5091839/psn-boasts-14-million-active-users
14 million users on each. So any and all theories on Live being worse because there are more people is now shot to hell.

Those numbers are not of PS3 PSN users it's the number of PSN users which includes PSP owners which has sold more than double the number units as the PS3.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6201568.html

http://vgchartz.com/

 

[D_987]

I can't be certain, but if we were to put a survey out saying "Is the Xbox live community 90% good 10% bad, or visa versa?" I think I would put my money on the majority saying visa versa.

You are completely entitled to your opinion, it's just that I think you are in the minority

That would depend entirely on who you asked - if you were to make a survey, players who had played on Xbox live for around 6 months should be the only people edible, as they will have played to an extent to understand the way the general community behaves.

People who have never played on live but heard their friends complaining once about someone on Live's view shoud not be accepted because they have not got any real evidence to back up their claim.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

fun & interesting = popular?

not always.

the beauty of the ps3's exclusives is that they manage to be fun and interesting and don't necessarily cater to the mainstream.

Resistance... Drakes Fortune... MSG4...

If you need to be an indie gamer to enjoy them, then pardon me while I take up my Lancer and continue the fight against the Morlocks.

Mainstream/indie/whatever doesn't factor into it. The 360 has a number of wonderful indie titles too. All consoles do. The proportions of mainstream to indie are fairly uniform across the platforms, with the PC standing gloriously over all, flexing its giant Indie muscles and urinating in the river of your 4th gen console ancestors.

Not one of those are mainstream. If you ask an average non-gamer they won't know shit about what your talking about, unlike mario.

 

[NeedAUserName]

I have had very few issues with people over PSN, but on my friends and cousins xBox 360s, I have probably had at least 5 times as much aggro from other players. And I play on my PS3 online a lot more then I have played XBL

 

[D_987]

So, you think your opinion is somehow better than his opinion?

Yes because I gain my evidence from a primary source, he gained his from a secondary source, therefore my evidence is more reliable.

You pulled your evidence from a remarkably small sample size, so both are irrelevant.

Yep, because playing on Xbox live for over a year gives me no chance of understanding what the general community is really like - particularly on popular games such as COD4 and Halo 3 where I will have played with hundreds of different players every session.[/quote]

I've been playing Xbox live since it was released. >_>

And your honest opinion is that 90% of the community are; in your words; "cunts".

If this is truly the case the only explanation I can give is that you have deliberately angered the general gaming public, because if you had played Live since its release and 90% of the players you have played with were "cunts", that would means a lot of annoying people, something only you; seemed to ave noticed.

Or maybe you set incredibly high standards, I don't know, frankly this argument is utterly meaningless.

 

[D_987]

I can't be certain, but if we were to put a survey out saying "Is the Xbox live community 90% good 10% bad, or visa versa?" I think I would put my money on the majority saying visa versa.

You are completely entitled to your opinion, it's just that I think you are in the minority

That would depend entirely on who you asked - if you were to make a survey, players who had played on Xbox live for around 6 months should be the only people edible, as they will have played to an extent to understand the way the general community behaves.

Sounds fair, so only people who have actually played the PsN extensively should be allowed to comment on this, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that my full year on the PsN has been less offensive and less buggy than the 3 hours I spent on Live.

Then you would not be able to able to comment on this topic and you have not played both services for the required time period, how can you possibly compare a year to 3 hours? (you could if you were just flame-baiting, but thats besides the point)

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Well from what I heard from a friend women aren't crucified for being gamers on home. Unlike most of xbl >.>. They are followed around quite frequently though.

Where does any of that come from, really? Home isn't out yet and from my Live experience female gamers aren't given harsh treatment there.

It's in Beta testing, making a conclusion before it even comes out is pointless though.

Really it depends on which games you play on XBL which will determine the amount of griefers, on Halo 3 you will probably get the most and you will get a lot less on SC4.

Pretending PS3 owners are a different breed to 360 owners is ridiculous, gamers will always be gamers whichever system you play on.

One of the major arguements in the PS3 vs 360 battle is that you have to pay for XBL, which isn't really that much of a problem when you consider everyone who does play XBL don't have any complaints about paying for it.

Not valid how? Will people somehow act different when it comes out?

I was stating from my personal experience what happens on XBl compared to PSN with women, most of this coming from playing COD4 which could be the culprit of it all enticing those damn squeekys kids and wooting dickwaving FPS players.

Not valid because it isn't in use by the entire community yet so you can't draw a conclusion on a small test group.

So your personal experience is definitive?

This is all opinionated and if you read further on you would see I gave another possible cause of why it happened.

Has anyone every reviewed the entire community?

EDIT: Third on PSN being more freindly.(I have given up on XBL in favor of PSN>.>)