Student Suspended for wearing a dress.

[Pimppeter2]

He only wore the pants to be a troll.

If he was actually gender-queer or a cross dresser, I think it would have been different

I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores.

Wait what? It was a bet his mother made to make him see how difficult heels are to wear. There was no initial moral crusading.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't like the way they're turning it into one now.

Why? The school is wrong, and should be called out on it. Why force some future crossdressing student to deal with it later when these people can deal with it now and make it easier for any future students who it applies to.

But they didn't

You can't assume it would be the same situation. You can't say the school wouldn't have reacted differently. This was just a kid dicking around in a dress to get attention. He wasn't actually genderqueer, or anything.

You can't blame someone for an injustice they haven't committed before they actually do it. Its not right. The school solved the issue with the kid, they lowered his suspension. Both mom and kid agreed that they're fine with it now, just disappointed.

Now they're just dragging it into the media to be more like the attention whores they are. They're not moral crusaders, and should stop acting like they're standing up for people who are actually facing gender issues.

So what if it was for attention? If he wore a piece of male clothing for attention (that was not vular or something) would he have been suspended? The school was sexist. What about all the women wearing dresses for attention? Im sure there are plenty. Are they being treated equal to him?

Your not getting the fucking point

"I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores."

Honestly, read what you quote. Its ridiculous.

I didn't say he did anything wrong, or that the school did right in punishing him. I said I just wish he didn't play the role of moral crusader. Its petty.

Now, read before you respond.

 

[funguy2121]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Misogyny? Come on. I personally don't have any misgivings with gender roles at all, until they become compulsory. Unfortunately, that's very very often. Kill your own damned spiders!

 

[Saelune]

He only wore the pants to be a troll.

If he was actually gender-queer or a cross dresser, I think it would have been different

I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores.

Wait what? It was a bet his mother made to make him see how difficult heels are to wear. There was no initial moral crusading.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't like the way they're turning it into one now.

Why? The school is wrong, and should be called out on it. Why force some future crossdressing student to deal with it later when these people can deal with it now and make it easier for any future students who it applies to.

But they didn't

You can't assume it would be the same situation. You can't say the school wouldn't have reacted differently. This was just a kid dicking around in a dress to get attention. He wasn't actually genderqueer, or anything.

You can't blame someone for an injustice they haven't committed before they actually do it. Its not right. The school solved the issue with the kid, they lowered his suspension. Both mom and kid agreed that they're fine with it now, just disappointed.

Now they're just dragging it into the media to be more like the attention whores they are. They're not moral crusaders, and should stop acting like they're standing up for people who are actually facing gender issues.

So what if it was for attention? If he wore a piece of male clothing for attention (that was not vular or something) would he have been suspended? The school was sexist. What about all the women wearing dresses for attention? Im sure there are plenty. Are they being treated equal to him?

Your not getting the fucking point

"I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores."

Honestly, fucking read what you quote. Its ridiculous.

I didn't say he did anything wrong, or that the school did right in punishing him. I said I just wish he didn't play the role of moral crusader. Its fucking petty.

Now, read before you respond. For fucksake.

Might want to watch the swearing. I am not arguing if they are or are not being attention whores. Im arguing that its fine if it means stopping something bad.

 

[Hamish Durie]

me thinks the school staff are right fools

 

[Merkavar]

i just dont see anything wrong with what he did. if he wants to wear a dress and high heels does it really affect anyone? i just dont see why they even tried to suspend him.

if a guy wearing dresses is suspndable offence then girls wearing pants should also be.

but that would just be stupid. people should be able to wear anything they want as long as it covers up your junk.

 

[Saelune]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Misogyny? Come on. I personally don't have any misgivings with gender roles at all, until they become compulsory. Unfortunately, that's very very often. Kill your own damned spiders!

Not mysogyny. I find nowadays gender roles hurt men more than women. Its weirder for men to wear skirts than women to wear pants, which 50 or so years ago would be crossdressing.

 

[Arcticflame]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

I don't disagree with many of your other posts, but this is grade A rhetoric tripe. Going with your logic conformists would want everyone to devolve into the stage before the big bang, clearly conformists want you to conform to previous, somewhat anachronistic societal standards, and therefore enforced gender roles.

 

[callmegreen]

This is Retarded.......

Its not like the the kid was like "LOL LOOK AT ME IN A DRESS ITS SO QUEER! FAGS ARE DUMB LOL"

And the Kid isnt some Gender confused boy being singled out by his school.

What ever he got 3 days suspention for doing a dare that his mom set... My moms dared me to do stupid shit to.
NOONE CARES!!
The kid and the mother dont care. All that happened was the kid got caught being a ass THATS ALL

 

[Saelune]

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Actually the highest form of sexism is me beating the shit out of someone for being a woman.

But sure, you can believe what you want bro. Personally, I believe that men and woman are different (a crazy notion, I know, but bear with me) and that roles within society naturally build from this base difference. These roles vary over time and from society to society, naturally, but if there are roles in place that do not hamper someone to enjoy life due to their gender, then I support that.

The biggest difference between men and women are the genitals. Now. What about a penis makes wrapping a cloth garment around them wrong due to lack of a bottom piece?

 

[Dags90]

OP, it's MSN, so it should be taken with a grain of salt without a second source. It sounds like the kid's been pushing boundaries at the school for a while; he was tempting them to do this. It doesn't make it any more right for them to do so, but I fail to see how dressing in drag to come to school is really so important. Perhaps that's myopic of me, but I doubt you'd see Eddie Izard in stilettos and blush waiting in line at the bank.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Boy-wears-dress-to-school-gets-suspended-1429489.php

So that's now four sources. These shouldn't be boundaries in the first place, except I guess the hat thing.

 

[infohippie]

Of course, I'm outraged on his behalf, just like most people here, but I particularly liked this:

""I was pretty," said Saurs."

That's just adorable.

 

[Saelune]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

I don't disagree with many of your other posts, but this is grade A rhetoric tripe. Going with your logic conformists would want everyone to devolve into the stage before the big bang, clearly conformists want you to conform to previous, somewhat anachronistic societal standards, and therefore enforced gender roles.

Hey, if Conservatives can do this, why cant I? (Weird math that is, such as gay marriage = people will want to marry dogs, plants next)
I wont say it was my best argument, but that guy is clearly biased in ignorance based on his other posts, so why bother with just legit logic?

 

[funguy2121]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Misogyny? Come on. I personally don't have any misgivings with gender roles at all, until they become compulsory. Unfortunately, that's very very often. Kill your own damned spiders!

Not mysogyny. I find nowadays gender roles hurt men more than women. Its weirder for men to wear skirts than women to wear pants, which 50 or so years ago would be crossdressing.

They don't really help any. Damned shame most of us are scared shitless of feminists.

 

[Pimppeter2]

He only wore the pants to be a troll.

If he was actually gender-queer or a cross dresser, I think it would have been different

I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores.

Wait what? It was a bet his mother made to make him see how difficult heels are to wear. There was no initial moral crusading.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't like the way they're turning it into one now.

Why? The school is wrong, and should be called out on it. Why force some future crossdressing student to deal with it later when these people can deal with it now and make it easier for any future students who it applies to.

But they didn't

You can't assume it would be the same situation. You can't say the school wouldn't have reacted differently. This was just a kid dicking around in a dress to get attention. He wasn't actually genderqueer, or anything.

You can't blame someone for an injustice they haven't committed before they actually do it. Its not right. The school solved the issue with the kid, they lowered his suspension. Both mom and kid agreed that they're fine with it now, just disappointed.

Now they're just dragging it into the media to be more like the attention whores they are. They're not moral crusaders, and should stop acting like they're standing up for people who are actually facing gender issues.

So what if it was for attention? If he wore a piece of male clothing for attention (that was not vular or something) would he have been suspended? The school was sexist. What about all the women wearing dresses for attention? Im sure there are plenty. Are they being treated equal to him?

Your not getting the fucking point

"I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores."

Honestly, fucking read what you quote. Its ridiculous.

I didn't say he did anything wrong, or that the school did right in punishing him. I said I just wish he didn't play the role of moral crusader. Its fucking petty.

Now, read before you respond. For fucksake.

Might want to watch the swearing. I am not arguing if they are or are not being attention whores. Im arguing that its fine if it means stopping something bad.

Its okay, we're not in a goddamn daycare. I can use big boy words. I'm not swearing at you.

That's fine and all. But I am not arguing that. And you quoted me. I don't disagree with you. I just said I don't like their attitude.

 

[GamerPhate]

Ah, the US. Land of the free indeed. This is fucking disgraceful that people still exclude other people simply for doing something different. And just to put this on a flat line for the school, you think that it being a dare from someone else it would have been all fine, considering he wasn't doing it to simply wear feminine clothing.

Ugh, I hate this world at the moment.

Edit: And just because of the nine years of being on the net, I finally got first post!

Well.. he KIND of was.. he wore makeup and a hat, even though hats are against EVERY schools dress code I have ever seen. The makeup is a bit of a grey area, but I recall during Halloween, me and a co-drum line member decided to use that spray can stuff that makes your hair colored. I cant remember if i picked red or green, but we each picked one of those colors, and in all my classes I got smirks by the teachers, but only in band class did the teacher literally throw us out of class for the hour. It was TEMPORARY hair spray that was colored, and yet somehow we were kicked out of class for the day, even on Halloween. We weren't wearing anything else "offensive" that day. Although, the same instructor had kicked a guy out of band entirely for shaving HALF his head. It was like the right side of his head had hair, and the left side was just totally shaved. And this was back in the 90's before "emo-esque" hair was "in style". Realy quick, this is just an opinion, but OMG, emo hair looks like it NEEDS to be cut, but they intentionally make it grow that way! And I had long hair back then, so that is saying something, but this was the "alternative" days when looking like a stoner was cool. Back then it would have been considered "gothic" maybe? But he was a good wind player, so it was a bit of a loss for the band in our up comming competitions. However, you know how it goes, people judge people by their appearance instead of their personailty, and therefore it was considered an "okay" move by the school.

 

[Saelune]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Misogyny? Come on. I personally don't have any misgivings with gender roles at all, until they become compulsory. Unfortunately, that's very very often. Kill your own damned spiders!

Not mysogyny. I find nowadays gender roles hurt men more than women. Its weirder for men to wear skirts than women to wear pants, which 50 or so years ago would be crossdressing.

They don't really help any. Damned shame most of us are scared shitless of feminists.

Im not quite sure exactly your view on this. Im getting mixed messeges.

 

[Saelune]

He only wore the pants to be a troll.

If he was actually gender-queer or a cross dresser, I think it would have been different

I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores.

Wait what? It was a bet his mother made to make him see how difficult heels are to wear. There was no initial moral crusading.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't like the way they're turning it into one now.

Why? The school is wrong, and should be called out on it. Why force some future crossdressing student to deal with it later when these people can deal with it now and make it easier for any future students who it applies to.

But they didn't

You can't assume it would be the same situation. You can't say the school wouldn't have reacted differently. This was just a kid dicking around in a dress to get attention. He wasn't actually genderqueer, or anything.

You can't blame someone for an injustice they haven't committed before they actually do it. Its not right. The school solved the issue with the kid, they lowered his suspension. Both mom and kid agreed that they're fine with it now, just disappointed.

Now they're just dragging it into the media to be more like the attention whores they are. They're not moral crusaders, and should stop acting like they're standing up for people who are actually facing gender issues.

So what if it was for attention? If he wore a piece of male clothing for attention (that was not vular or something) would he have been suspended? The school was sexist. What about all the women wearing dresses for attention? Im sure there are plenty. Are they being treated equal to him?

Your not getting the fucking point

"I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores."

Honestly, fucking read what you quote. Its ridiculous.

I didn't say he did anything wrong, or that the school did right in punishing him. I said I just wish he didn't play the role of moral crusader. Its fucking petty.

Now, read before you respond. For fucksake.

Might want to watch the swearing. I am not arguing if they are or are not being attention whores. Im arguing that its fine if it means stopping something bad.

Its okay, we're not in a goddamn daycare. I can use big boy words. I'm not swearing at you.

That's fine and all. But I am not arguing that. And you quoted me. I don't disagree with you. I just said I don't like their attitude.

Its not that you sweared, but how, or rather, how much. Kinda gives off super raving mad. (To be fair though, sometimes I just want to curse out people here...)

 

[funguy2121]

OP, it's MSN, so it should be taken with a grain of salt without a second source. It sounds like the kid's been pushing boundaries at the school for a while; he was tempting them to do this. It doesn't make it any more right for them to do so, but I fail to see how dressing in drag to come to school is really so important. Perhaps that's myopic of me, but I doubt you'd see Eddie Izard in stilettos and blush waiting in line at the bank.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Boy-wears-dress-to-school-gets-suspended-1429489.php

So that's now four sources. These shouldn't be boundaries in the first place, except I guess the hat thing.

"If anything, it makes me want to be more out there and more spontaneous and crazy," Saurs told KING 5.

The kid was looking for attention, and he got it. He was looking to stir up trouble. I could care less if I see a guy walking down the street in a dress and I don't care if they allow it at school, but he's gotten into trouble for violating the dress code, he appeared in drag and was punished (it was reduced to 3 days' suspension) and then said that this makes him want to be more subversive. I'm guessing even if Moms hadn't complained about her feet hurting he still would have worn the dress to school.

 

[Charli]

Pft getting mad at a dress. Silly schools.

Next time go in naked, really screw with em.

 

[Titan Buttons]

Unless there is a school uniform in place a student has a right to wear what ever they want, as long as it's not offencive to anyone. Which a dress can't be since girls wear them all the time