Students Hack Unmanned Drone

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Hevva said:
As the technology that powers these machines advances, private companies are becoming increasingly interested [http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/opinion-calo-drones-dogs-privacy/] in possible domestic applications for the de-fanged, person-friendly cousins of the military's UAVs.
I'm more worried about what they intend to use these drones for. I think someone needs to ban their use for surveillance of citizens before things get out of hand.
 

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Ooh, ooh, I will catch and tame a drone and make it my pet. It will bring me slippers, beer and will carry my groceries. Future, get in here, already!
 

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If you aren't encrypting communications to your drone, then you entirely deserve it when it fires a missile/spies on you from above. I don't see why security should be treated differently from military applications, if a drone fell from the sky onto a crowded road then it could potentially cause a lot of damage by causing an accident.
 

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LordFish said:
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Unfortunately, with a little more expertise and funding even encrypted systems could be "spoofed" or "hacked". Nothing in the world of computers is immune, even isolated networks are at risk through human interference.
I put to you AES256 hard-coded public key encryption, my college prof said until they invent (if they invent) quantum computers, uncrackable. Yes if the system is designed with flaws than the encryption can be circumvented, but never encrypted data cracked. Just look at the financial sector, hackers can't log into their bank accounts and give themselfs millions of pounds... at least, I hope they can't :p
Too late, banks have been hacked years ago. Here's a few damning cyber-attacks that actually happened and could have the potential to ruin a country or the lives of people around the world.


4 Hackers Indicted in $9.5 Million Bank Card Attack - They conducted computer fraud by hacking a card company to stolen information and data which they then used to fraud nearly $10 million dollars from the bank. This happened in 2009:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/rbs-worldpay/


In 2007, Exstonia's entire electronic infrastructure went into lockdown:
The attacks, which started around April 27, have crippled Web sites for Estonia's prime minister, banks, and less-trafficked sites run by small schools, said Hillar Aarelaid, chief security officer for Estonia's Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT), on Thursday. But most of the affected Web sites have been able to restore service [after a period of time].
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9019725/Estonia_recovers_from_massive_DDoS_attack
While stealing hundreds of thousands of pounds isn't much to a bank, it's crippling to their repulation and thus, thier business. If you found out your bank was vulnerable and not so secure, would you let them look after your money? Bank hacked, money stolen over internet, crime syndicate to blame:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/three-arrested-in-first-internet-bank-robbery-710780.html

Oh, and Stuxnet and Flame show that you don't need to risk your people's lives or even cyber-hijack weaponry to harm, hamper or spy on an opposing nation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18393985

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There are ways of getting around things with computers that are sometimes completely abstract. Once again, it wouldn't surprise me if some bright spark figured a way around the military-grade encryption without a quantum computer... or made a quantum computer and got through the encryption directly. The Enigma Cypher unbreakable in WWI, but the Polish cracked it; then the ever-more complicated nazi-germany evolutions were cracked in 1940 by British Intelligence.

I'm sure the military encryption is truly safe for now, and probably will be for years to come, but it's better to be safe than sorry and to keep developing more secure systems all the time. With the right security you can minimise risk but never remove it, but why would a malicious individual or group spend years cracking a nuke's launch system when you could do just as much harm, much more easily, when they could bring down numerous planes at once by neutralise several airports' air traffic control systems?
FAA's Air-Traffic Networks Breached by Hackers: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124165272826193727.html
UK Airport's Air Traffic Control Data Stolen: http://www.channel4.com/news/air-traffic-control-data-for-sale-on-ebay
 

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Also, lol at the guys who came here trying to make a joke related to FOX news but found an actual okay story.
Didn't notice the fear mongering, did you?
 

LordFish

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Bvenged said:
So much snip
Exploiting "vulnerabilities in the system" and some sort of DDOS does not equate to decrypting or cracking anything like AES 256, or even 128.

LordFish said:
Yes if the system is designed with flaws than the encryption can be circumvented, but never encrypted data cracked
 

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Blablahb said:
That doesn't protect it. Iran already hacked US military drones and captured them for instance.
Link? All I found was "By putting noise [jamming] on the communications, you force the bird into autopilot. This is where the bird loses its brain."
 

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Gearhead mk2 said:
Hevva said:
Source: Fox News [http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/25/drones-vulnerable-to-terrorist-hijacking-researchers-say/]
Move along people, nothing to see here. I know that this actually happened, but it's only a matter of time until Bill O'Reilly gets his hands on it and any and all truth will be lost.
You say that now, but I've yet to see you explain the tides.

Twilight_guy said:
Also, lol at the guys who came here trying to make a joke related to FOX news but found an actual okay story.
FOX News mocked for fear-mongering. FOX News quotes a guy who almost says "9/11 times a thousand". I think we're good for the piss-take to go ahead.
 

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You know its seems that students are always finding out better ways to things than the people trained to them. Maybe we should start sending students to the front line. call it "hands on learning".
This.

It's getting silly - students at home seem to do their country's jobs a thousand times better.
 

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So some people worked out how to take control of an overly expensive, fancy RC plane well done.
 

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Hevva said:
Gearhead mk2 said:
Hevva said:
Source: Fox News [http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/25/drones-vulnerable-to-terrorist-hijacking-researchers-say/]
Move along people, nothing to see here. I know that this actually happened, but it's only a matter of time until Bill O'Reilly gets his hands on it and any and all truth will be lost.
Heh. I was impressed that they went for "terrorists" in the headline though. No messing around in Fox Towers.
LOL! Only namby-pamby liberals show restraint with headlines... ;-)
 

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Hevva said:
Department of Homeland Security (DoHS) are interested in this spoofing development, with representatives from both agencies having reportedly invited the Austin team to repeat their trick under supervision.
... The next day China and north korea became barraged in they're own nukes...
 

Strazdas

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even the basic GPS in our cell phones can encrypt the signal, its amazing that the drones didnt. If all they have to do to make this unusable is encrypt the signal (change frequency from a very popular one would also be a nice step) its not hard to countermeasure.
 

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When I think of weaponised domestic UAVs, this is what i think of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2_xuzvza8c (I would embed it if I knew how)
 

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Heh. When I first learned about ROVs being used by the military, my immediate mental image was of some little kid somewhere with a Tamiya RC rig taking control of one (maybe not even realizing he was doing it while flying his own plane). Scarily, sounds like I wasn't that far off the mark after all..
 

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Technology gets stronger. But we got weaker. We built computers, robots, whole unmanned armies, and no one ever asked: what happens, when the enemy steals the keys?
 

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Blablahb said:
I'm a little disappointed to see the Escapist going along in American 'anything could be used for terrorism' paranoia.
that post could be used for terrorism. *stares at you*