Study Says That Female-Named Hurricanes Kill More Than Male Storms
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Being someone who lived in a barrier island in New York that was hit by Sandy, which also happened to dump loads of the sand from the beach my town was named for into the roads and in some cases people's houses, I found the name somewhat accurate.Kameburger said:
Categorization and Posterity. Giving hurricanes names makes it easy to categorize them and list them as they come out, and makes it easier to mention them in the future if it happens to come up again. Everyone remembers Hurricane Sandy and Hurricane Katrina, but how memorable do you think they'd be if they were, say, "Hurricane SS-104-C3"?RealRT said:
its.... ok its...its not people standing around going. OH kelley cant do nothin its just a girly tornado. No one is conciously deciding anything! Its peoples unconcious minds making associations and those associations affecting there behavior. Even a feminist might unconciously be affected by such a thing but its a good indicator of whats in our collective subconcious and a good indicator of what we think of women still.( to be fair in a world that doesnt value a mans or womans self defense everyones a bit gimped but thats another discussion entirely)Jandau said:
So what happens to hurricanes that use names that can be male OR female, like Evelyn, Kim, or Kelly? And what happens in the case of names that have male/female variants with slightly different spellings (for example, Marion / Marian, Robin / Robyn, or Martin / Martyn?) Do people stay in and barricade their doors for Hurricane Chris, but go out and play in the streets during Hurricane Kris?Strazdas said:
Y'know, I think I'm with the guy who suggested calling every hurricane "Hitler". Or you could use "Hurricane Donkeypuncher", just to ram the point home.
Captcha is "Total Shamble". Which I suspect will be relevant to this thread within the next twelve hours or so.
I agree with you, more and more I find myself agreeing with Machiavelli.(Whether he wrote The Prince in jest or not.) The common (wo)man is an idiot and depresses me to no end. Since about 51% of the population is in that bracket, that leaves us with a mix of 49% that are above and below the common intellect, sigh.Jandau said:
In all seriousness though, who here can honestly tell me they'd be more terrified of Hurricane Norman than Hurricane Norma. I don't, I can't even into logic. It's a giant storm system that is powerful enough to demolish buildings like they were made of poorly put together paper mache. The name doesn't matter, that thing will fuck you up.
Ugh... there it is, they used the term "suggests", which typically means they are drawing premature conclusions. "Suggests" is a term that says, "we should do more tests".
That aside: This is not an uncommon thing. People's perceptions change with names all the time. If I dated a Katrina who was a royal ***** and I hated, I would probably take Hurricane Katrina more serious than a Hurricane Sam, or a Hurricane Judith. That said, of course all hurricanes should be taken seriously, as they are hurricanes. Sounds like a problem with the bothersome act of naming them at all. Perhaps naming them anything is a bad idea. Names automatically make things seem less serious than they may be. Perhaps they should just name them "Massive killer storm #_", the only people that will affect are people who know someone with that name.
That aside: This is not an uncommon thing. People's perceptions change with names all the time. If I dated a Katrina who was a royal ***** and I hated, I would probably take Hurricane Katrina more serious than a Hurricane Sam, or a Hurricane Judith. That said, of course all hurricanes should be taken seriously, as they are hurricanes. Sounds like a problem with the bothersome act of naming them at all. Perhaps naming them anything is a bad idea. Names automatically make things seem less serious than they may be. Perhaps they should just name them "Massive killer storm #_", the only people that will affect are people who know someone with that name.
I don't know if it's sexism so much that women overall are less physically imposing than men are. Not taking the storm as serious is not the same as hating women. I'm sure sexists probably take the storms far more serious than anything else. Also, conscious sexism is not the same as what they are saying here. They are talking about an unconscious decision. No one is sitting there saying, "Katrina, with a name like that what is to worry about". It's completely subconscious.medv4380 said:
Mortis Nuncius said:
Might be a bit on the nose.
This study is neat and all, but remember that correlation does not imply causation.
Oh my word...I completely broke down. Rapturous applause!Strazdas said:
You know what, though? That really would get more people interested in the weather. You know what else would? Some real celebrity guest stars!
But, like it said in the article, I guess there'd be a risk of entire cities going into panic over a name like that. :/
Ahem, has anyone asked the HURRICANES what they wanted to be called?
I though not, all you sexists obviously do not have the concept of their preferred pronoun, or gender identity.
Related:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/comics/critical-miss/11086-Weve-Seen-The-Future-And-Its-NSFW
I though not, all you sexists obviously do not have the concept of their preferred pronoun, or gender identity.
Related:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/comics/critical-miss/11086-Weve-Seen-The-Future-And-Its-NSFW
Yeah, but imagine how embarrassed the namers will be when it takes a turn far off to sea and doesn't affect anyone except a couple random boats who didn't know of it.RealRT said:
With how deeply ingrained misogyny is in our culture, I have to say this doesn't surprise me. No matter what it's named, someone who doesn't take a hurricane seriously and dies from it can't really blame anyone but themselves.
On a completely unrelated note: was the proofreader out sick today? There are some rather glaring errors in this article for it being so short.
On a completely unrelated note: was the proofreader out sick today? There are some rather glaring errors in this article for it being so short.
i dont know. if i heard on the radio "lock your windows, anal bleeding is coming" i would burst out laughing.moggett88 said:
like dinosaurs on canadian currency got people interested in money?Barbas said:
frankly id think the effect would wear off quickly.
They used to be refereed to just 'The Great Hurricane of 1XXX' until Clement Wragge started naming them after letters in the Greek alphabet. Then, when he ran out of letters, he started naming them after politicians he disliked because he was also an amateur satirist on top of a meteorologist.Kameburger said:
Naming the Hurricanes female came during the War, army meteorologists started naming Hurricanes and Cyclones after their wives and girlfriends because this was the 40's and signs of affection were weird back then, however in the '60s feminists took offence to the naming of storms as women, stating: ?Women are not disasters, destroying life and communities and leaving a lasting and devastating effect?, so from '79 onward's it became standard to alternate between male and female names.