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I have little to no reason to go back and play Dynasty Warrior games, or games done in that style. 2D brawlers are every where again, and they only highlight further problems with the DW series and its sub-genre.
 

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I cannot think of a single movie I hated and subsequently reconsidered. But part of that is probably that if I hated it, I won't have rewatched it to reappraise it.
^This. I'm not saying a movie I disliked upon my maiden viewing couldn't have some redemptive qualities I might have missed, but asking me to endure it again looking for those redemptive qualities is a bit much. I'm of the "if you liked it, I'm happy and happy for you" camp; I can't be bother to try again given how much there is out there that I haven't already seen that could be a better use of my time.
 

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^This. I'm not saying a movie I disliked upon my maiden viewing couldn't have some redemptive qualities I might have missed, but asking me to endure it again looking for those redemptive qualities is a bit much. I'm of the "if you liked it, I'm happy and happy for you" camp; I can't be bother to try again given how much there is out there that I haven't already seen that could be a better use of my time.
I'm there with you, very unlikely to give something I didn't like a 2nd chance.

That said... to answer the topic question. In my case it was anime in general I was basically wrong about and changed my mind on. My first exposure was in college, walking in halfway through guys on my floor watching an anime movie. I got drawn in because it was a cool action scene. Then I tuned out because the next scene was very nearly tentacle rape. A year or so later, a buddy wanted me to watch anime with him. A little worried about what I was getting into, what we watched was an episode of Dragonball. A really boring "fight starts, one side taunts the other, the other guy responds, scene shifts to some other characters, back to fighters taunting one another, someone goes to throw the first punch... to be continued next episode." So I remained uninterested in anime in general.

But, my pal kept talking about anime and making references. So I reengaged by renting some from Blockbuster and started finding some I really liked. Basically, I just had to finally realize it wasn't all just one thing and I could find some I really liked. And stylistically... I thought I pretty much disliked anything you could call "mocumentary." Yes, even This is Spinal Tap isn't my cup of tea. But thinking that, for whatever reason I started watching American Vandal on Netflix... and wound up really liking it.

But the other way, stuff I used to like and don't anymore... there are more of those. Things I just kind of grew out of. Considering I was 12 when it came out, Weekend at Bernie's isn't as funny as I remember it. I think I remember thinking the sequel was pretty funny too. I was even more easily amused than I am now.
 

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Afro Samurai Resurrection - I had a very mixed opinion on this movie at the time. It was an unnecessary sequel, and the original was always best being self-contained. Around the mid to late 2010s and now, I just enjoy it for what it is. While I still think the original is better, I do like the colors, the standout voice acting, and the soundtrack is of course, amazing and even better than the first one. Everyone literally did the second one, because the Japanese animators, the writers, the English voice actors, and Samuel L. Jackson all bonded with each other during the original miniseries. Knowing that makes it a bit more heartwarming, and why they did this. Money of course as well, but still knowing all the other stuff makes it heartwarming, and I have respect for them for even attempting. Still better than manga adaption.
 
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In retrospect I have positive feelings about the last evangelion series specifically the final film, I think the theme song One Last Kiss sorta encompasses the tone the film tries to end on. I always hated the original series because shinji is a useless whiny wet blanket of unrealistic proportions and the story is largely edgelord gobbledegook. Regardless of the actual fan reaction I imagine Im probably an outlier opinion because I feel like the third movie kinda say "Fuck all that" and basically tells you its all metaphor for growing up, dropping the circular teenage nihilism, and no longer entering toxic relationships as seen with shinji actually being positive and ultimately choosing to be with the only character who has a healthy attitude. I imagine fans could write a hundred page thesis on why Im wrong, but thats how I see it. I think my initial opinion was that the movie and series was kind of nonsense, but on rumination I think the final film closes things out nicely.
 

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In retrospect I have positive feelings about the last evangelion series specifically the final film, I think the theme song One Last Kiss sorta encompasses the tone the film tries to end on. I always hated the original series because shinji is a useless whiny wet blanket of unrealistic proportions and the story is largely edgelord gobbledegook. Regardless of the actual fan reaction I imagine Im probably an outlier opinion because I feel like the third movie kinda say "Fuck all that" and basically tells you its all metaphor for growing up, dropping the circular teenage nihilism, and no longer entering toxic relationships as seen with shinji actually being positive and ultimately choosing to be with the only character who has a healthy attitude. I imagine fans could write a hundred page thesis on why Im wrong, but thats how I see it. I think my initial opinion was that the movie and series was kind of nonsense, but on rumination I think the final film closes things out nicely.
I was rather emotionally affected by Rebuild’s final entry. It wasn’t the ending I expected; probably not even the one I wanted yet by the time the credit song kicks in - and I agree it’s a lovely song - I still felt very fulfilled and satisfied and that everything would be okay moving forward. And the whole ‘goodbye’ thing felt like a send off for me personally.

Evangelion’s anime will likely always be this weird, quirky, broken, silly and tonally inconsistent bucket of lunacy. But I’ll never not enjoy it, even if the reasons I enjoy it change over time. And I cannot imagine my life without it as a pop cultural presence.


As for me, and boy was this a hell of a revelation for me. Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Loved it when I was younger, right up there with TNG. Now though? I hate it and everything bar the improved character writing it has ever brought to Star Trek. I watch it now and all I see is the politics of Babylon 5 but lesser in every way and Ron D. Moore practicing for the BSG reboot. Which is a shame because dollars to doughnuts says most of my favourite TNG episodes have his fingerprints on them.
 
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At the risk of turning this into That Kind of Star Wars thread, I gotta say that I've come full circle on The Phantom Menace. I broadly liked it on first showing, but into unyielding rage as the prequels continued, and am now back to...well it's not good, but it's watchable. I have a decent time watching it as a bad movie night or whatever.

In the other corner, The Last Jedi was the best of the sequel trilogy, but after watching Rise of Skywalker and the majority of new Star Wars media, I just can't stomach it anymore. My Star Wars Fan juice has just left my body entirely, and not in the fun way
 

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In the other corner, The Last Jedi was the best of the sequel trilogy, but after watching Rise of Skywalker and the majority of new Star Wars media, I just can't stomach it anymore. My Star Wars Fan juice has just left my body entirely, and not in the fun way
The Last Jedi was the most fun I had with Starwars since those animated shorts done by Genndy Tartakovsky. I'm not sure why it got so much hate. Pretty much all the other new Starwars stuff I've seen was at best ok. Granted though, the only new stuff I saw other then Last Jedi was Force Awakens and Rogue One. Force Awakens was ehh and Rogue One was garbage with 2 cool scenes.
 

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Yeah, The Last Jedi was bad, I'm not going to say it was any good. But every now and then there were respectable bits, the people behind it were trying. Not very hard, and not very well, but The Force Awakens seemed to have made by people with more than a little contempt for the audience, knowing the fans will watch anything with the logo and some of the right trappings so they don't need to bother.

I might say that The Rise of Skywalker was a competently made mediocre film, whereas The Last Jedi was a badly made attempt to do something better. Though, might have to watch the films again and rethink that.
 

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Yeah, The Last Jedi was bad, I'm not going to say it was any good. But every now and then there were respectable bits, the people behind it were trying. Not very hard, and not very well, but The Force Awakens seemed to have made by people with more than a little contempt for the audience, knowing the fans will watch anything with the logo and some of the right trappings so they don't need to bother.

I might say that The Rise of Skywalker was a competently made mediocre film, whereas The Last Jedi was a badly made attempt to do something better. Though, might have to watch the films again and rethink that.
Last Jedi I have really wierd feelings on. I love parts of it and I hate other parts and the rest is meh. For every bit like "Kill the Past" and "Your parents were nobodies and don't matter" there's the Imps pulling stupid tech out of thier ass to suit the drama("Oh, you took down our battleship? Well guess what suckers, we got a spare in the back pocket! Also we can track ships though hyperspace now because reasons") and the Casino planet. And while I appreciate Johnson tried something, it's so scattershot that the only way TLJ feels better then the rest is because it did have some ambition other then "ANH but new" and whatever the hell was going on in RoS.
 
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I'm not gonna comment on the new Star Wars movies to stay safe :)

As for which IP I've done a whole 180 for over the years - definitely Diablo 3.

There aren't that many great couch co-op games anyhow, but D3's team really go away and beyond with the seasons and do keep me coming back
 

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I'm not gonna comment on the new Star Wars movies to stay safe
No one is going to judge you. I know I won't. SW is more or less dead to me at this point, aside from a few spin-offs.

Bebe's Kids. I have not enjoyed since my early teens, and I see no reason to back to it. Outside of a few clips on YT. The movie kinda grinds in the middle portion, and the title characters are assholes you should not be rooting for. I care more for the Itsy-Bitsy Spider short. The good news is the guy who made this film, went on to make Proud Family.
 

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I never used to like Talking Heads much. Yeah, the band. The lead singer usually sounded like…well, how does one describe it, like someone was constantly and vigorously shaking him. Or even electrocuting him in the throat.

But then I realized thanks to The Boys that they did the song Psycho Killer. And that’s also when I thought to myself, maybe they aren’t that bad after all.
 

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A majority of Tarantino's films do nothing for me now, and I don't enjoy them.
 

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A majority of Tarantino's films do nothing for me now, and I don't enjoy them.
I never understood the appeal. I was in high school when Kill Bill came out and everyone I knew freaked out, saying it was the best movie ever, incredible, etc...
and I watched it and eh, its okay. It came out the same year as the first Pirates of the Caribbean, and the Return of the King, and it can't hold a candle to either of those. And the fact that Tarantino uses his movies as ways to indulge his fetishes with famous actors just makes them creepy.
 
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I never understood the appeal. I was in high school when Kill Bill came out and everyone I knew freaked out, saying it was the best movie ever, incredible, etc...
and I watched it and eh, its okay. It came out the same year as the first Pirates of the Caribbean, and the Return of the King, and it can't hold a candle to either of those. And the fact that Tarantino uses his movies as ways to indulge his fetishes with famous actors just makes them creepy.
In addition, a lot of this films just use references or he's making a basis to a reference from movies he grew up watching movies from the 60s and 70s, and acting like he discovered them. How can you discover something, when it was already there before you were even born? If you have influences or what inspired you, that's fine and all, but don't act like you discovered something that was already made.

Another problem with Tarantino, is that he tried to coast on black people, and felt like he was "one of us", thus it was okay for him to say the n word. Spike Lee call him out hard on this back in the early '90s, and for a long while, he didn't do it again. At least until the Django and The Hateful Eight. I get it and both of those movies the word was commonplace, but he still goes overboard on it. More so in H8. For further evidence of Tarantino trying to be "with it" on all black people; find any interviews where he was on BET back in the mid 2000s. I think Kill Bill Volume 2 was about to be out by that point or was out.
 
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A majority of Tarantino's films do nothing for me now, and I don't enjoy them.
Tarantino makes excellent individual scenes. Not movies.
 

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In addition, a lot of this films just use references or he's making a basis to a reference from movies he grew up watching movies from the 60s and 70s, and acting like he discovered them. How can you discover something, when it was already there before you were even born? If you have influences or what inspired you, that's fine and all, but don't act like you discovered something that was already made.

Another problem with Tarantino, is that he tried to coast on black people, and felt like he was "one of us", thus it was okay for him to say the n word. Spike Lee call him out hard on this back in the early '90s, and for a long while, he didn't do it again. At least until the Django and the Hateful Eight. I get it and both of those movies the word was commonplace, but he still over and dozed in it. More so in H8. For further evidence of Tarantino trying to be hidden with all black people, find any interviews where he was on BET back in the mid 2000s. I think Kill Bill Volume 2 was about to be out by that point or was out.
He does have a real "holier than though, oh you wouldn't understand its from an obscure Japanese film only true cinema fans would know" vibe. And yeah, his constant use of the n-word and his feet fetish make his movies just uncomfortable. Not in a prude, "oh think of the children" way. In a "this guy jerks off when he watches his own movies" way.
 
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