Actually, I think that it's for beating all the side quests as well, not just the story.Arkley said:
Stupid Achievements/Trophies
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Achievement: You have started a new adventure! (or something else along those lines)
You know, that one you get for starting a new game? The only possible way to NOT get that is to never play the game so its the furthest thing from impressive... which I thought achievements were supposed to be?
You know, that one you get for starting a new game? The only possible way to NOT get that is to never play the game so its the furthest thing from impressive... which I thought achievements were supposed to be?
Most of the multiplayer achievements in the Gears games are dumb and some aren't worth the trouble. For example, reaching level 100 in multiplayer in Gears 2; unless they have a times 50XP modifier activated it will literally take you forever to get that. I also say to hell with most of the multiplayer achievements in Gears 1 because a majority of the guys who are still playing multiplayer there, for the most part, have been playing it since before Gears 2.Lawnmooer said:
I find those annoying as well. I currently have one of those kind of achievements and the achievement that I need to get to even it out might as well be impossible without having a lot of friends who will help you and a possible few hours of game play or a few weeks of game play with randoms and all the luck in the world.Fleetfiend said:
I would personally like to add Chromehounds to that list.ForgottenPr0digy said:
Without looking through all of the games that I've played to see what achievements I do and don't have, I'd have to say some of the achievements where you have to beat the game on the hardest difficulty. On some games it's okay, but other are not worth the hours of getting my ass shot, beaten, blown up, zapped, ect. that I would have to endure. Perfect example of that would be CoD games. I hate veteran mode.
There are also achievements like "get some grub" from Half-Life Episode 2 and historian from Bioshock where you have to find all the hidden things and I end up short one or three every time.
personally after the fun I had with achievement in WoW, I got pissed off in general for trophie/achievement, either they are just stupidly easy to get (pratically any bronze trophies on PS3) or take just way too much time that you get pissed off even before completing 25% of it.
some funny one I remember:
Starcraft 2: Win 1000 matchs, with all 3 races and random, overall that about 3000+ matchs to do which if you are good can last 5-7 minutes (including loading), so 300 hours?
Dynasty Warrior 7: get full reputation with all allies, I think I calculated about nearly 150 hours.
overall I don't mind about them but I don't force myself to do any of them because I don't care about showing my superior e-peen to anyone
some funny one I remember:
Starcraft 2: Win 1000 matchs, with all 3 races and random, overall that about 3000+ matchs to do which if you are good can last 5-7 minutes (including loading), so 300 hours?
Dynasty Warrior 7: get full reputation with all allies, I think I calculated about nearly 150 hours.
overall I don't mind about them but I don't force myself to do any of them because I don't care about showing my superior e-peen to anyone
Surely if you have to do 1000 with random as well, that's 4000 games at 7 minutes a piece. So 470 hours or so. That sucks :\\Siyano said:
I've always hated achievements in games, they're usually pointless and do nothing for the actual game. The worst one I can think of are the flag achievements in the first Assassin's Creed. I liked how the original Mass Effect handled the system. Getting different achievements would actually unlock in-game bonuses for your characters.
First, Borderlands, the Robolution dlc, getting those mother f£!"ing oil cans to drop. Thank god for MINAC being farmable.
On a related note: anything related to hidden collectibles in a sandbox when they don't give you some tool to help locate them.
Secondly, Lost Planet 2. I forget the exact name, but there's a trophy for unlocking all the stuff. "Not so bad" you may say, "lots of games have those", but one of the titles you need to unlock is for being #1 on an all-time, global, leader board. So it wouldn't surprise me if the number of people who have 100% it is stuck in the tripple digits.
On a related note: anything related to hidden collectibles in a sandbox when they don't give you some tool to help locate them.
Secondly, Lost Planet 2. I forget the exact name, but there's a trophy for unlocking all the stuff. "Not so bad" you may say, "lots of games have those", but one of the titles you need to unlock is for being #1 on an all-time, global, leader board. So it wouldn't surprise me if the number of people who have 100% it is stuck in the tripple digits.
Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires gives you an achievement for saving the game... Not really difficult to get.
I really liked the HD collection of Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3. But, The trophy for getting all the dog tags on all the levels of difficulty is just uhhhh....
that sounds like an awesome idea. Though it's not much different mechanically than putting a "didn't steal" or "no civs" achievement. So I'm not sure we'll see those quite yet. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope so, because the psychological effect is a bit different. Would be interesting.Starik20X6 said:
The inability to kill even a rubbish enemy with a single round as an Infiltrator was silly. Using the second most power sniper rifle (for a single shot) - that is, the most powerful sniper rifle for half of the game, with maxed infiltrator skill (favoring the one shot damage), with miranda in the party (favoring group damage), an an attack from assassination cloak while wearing the + damage to headshot headgear and all + weapon damage armor available wouldn't drop a single enemy in one shot.jaffrosheep said:
By contrast, weapons availble in DLC make the act of playing on insanity trivial. The Geth Shotgun is, by far, the best option for shotgun as it does as much damage as the one found on the collector ship but has a five shot magazine and is useable at a very respectable distance. The heavy rifle's accuracy and damage is such that it is easily possible to kill most enemies in four shots and it fires as fast as you can pull a trigger. Hell, the best armor without question is also hidden behind such a paywall.
The achievement in the base game is worthy. That there are options available to buy your way into easy mode is insane to me. Many not insane. Just icky.
I don't have a problem with achievements, per se, but a lot of 'em do seem pretty superfluous or asinine because they're giving you little trophies for things you would have to do inevitably to play and/or win the game.
But my big complaint about achievements isn't about their existence, but one aspect of how they're done. I don't think people should be told how many achievements are in a game or what they are. That way you would discourage achievement farmers who are obsessed with getting these otherwise arbitrary check marks on a to-do list, while at the same time encouraging folks to explore the gameplay area and experiment with their strategies to see if they uncover an achievement. I think achievements should be treated like an Easter egg hunt; it wouldn't be as much fun if you were given a map to all the eggs, would it? Especially if the map told you that you had to scale a telephone pole on the other side of town to get one.
But my big complaint about achievements isn't about their existence, but one aspect of how they're done. I don't think people should be told how many achievements are in a game or what they are. That way you would discourage achievement farmers who are obsessed with getting these otherwise arbitrary check marks on a to-do list, while at the same time encouraging folks to explore the gameplay area and experiment with their strategies to see if they uncover an achievement. I think achievements should be treated like an Easter egg hunt; it wouldn't be as much fun if you were given a map to all the eggs, would it? Especially if the map told you that you had to scale a telephone pole on the other side of town to get one.
I don't feel that is unfair in the slightest. There is no guarantee of acquisition stated or implied in your purchase of a game. That some are effectively impossible to get because you do not play online is not unfair.Sean Hollyman said:
That said, I generally prefer that achievements be kept out of online play as they tend to greatly influence player behavior. Battlefield and Modern Warfare (the first two - I have not played the third) did this well. Battlefield generally had achievements simply for reaching milestones of rank along with a few that would simply be hard to accomplish most of the time. Modern Warfare simply locked all achievements behind single player actions.
Im not as big of a achievement whore as my brother is but I'll still try to get everything done unless there is some I can't or will not do. Best example is Dead Rising 1 where you have to get 8 female survivors to follow you at once, but the only way to do that is to kill all the male survivors. Why would I do that?
So there are some games I've 100%'d like Oblivion or COD 4. But then there are others that I havn't got half of them (like all the used games I get that have multiplayer achivments but nobody is playing them anymore like F.E.A.R 2. GRRRRRRRRRR)
I do wish there was some sort of little reward though. The avatar clothes is nice but I wish you'd got them for getting a ceritan amount of achivments in the game not just one certain one. My idea is to give you 200MP for every 1000g. That way I get more free MP and used game sales go up because people might/will go out and buy a used game and beat it to just get the MP.
So there are some games I've 100%'d like Oblivion or COD 4. But then there are others that I havn't got half of them (like all the used games I get that have multiplayer achivments but nobody is playing them anymore like F.E.A.R 2. GRRRRRRRRRR)
I do wish there was some sort of little reward though. The avatar clothes is nice but I wish you'd got them for getting a ceritan amount of achivments in the game not just one certain one. My idea is to give you 200MP for every 1000g. That way I get more free MP and used game sales go up because people might/will go out and buy a used game and beat it to just get the MP.
The 2006 Xbox 360 games had some dumb achievement ideas. Madden 2006 was the pinnacle, I think: it only had eleven achievements, most of them were no-effort affairs, and the few that actually required effort could be cheesed.
"Enter the History Book?" So I have to do well in the game to get into history? Nope. You have to literally enter the History Book section.
"Complete twenty years of franchise?" It can all be simulated.
"Activate RS Card?" Click the right stick nearly anywhere.
"Get a touchdown?" "Get a first down?" Okay, now you're messing with me.
"Enter the History Book?" So I have to do well in the game to get into history? Nope. You have to literally enter the History Book section.
"Complete twenty years of franchise?" It can all be simulated.
"Activate RS Card?" Click the right stick nearly anywhere.
"Get a touchdown?" "Get a first down?" Okay, now you're messing with me.
I kinda understand having really easy cheevos for things like finishing a level, just as long as they're not the ONLY ones you get. I always gathered that the idea was that each game should have some "freebies", a bunch of "do something specific" ones, and a tiny number of "you have no life" awards.
Tales of Vesperia is a good example.
It has cheevos for:
Completing story arcs (the last boss can be a pain, tho): (gimmes)
Pulling off specific actions ("Secret Missions") during specific boss fights. These range from "oh, that was easy" (don't lose aggro/let your healer get hit in Zagi I) to "Reload Save x50 because the requirements are so strict" (Hit boss with one specific special attack (that only one character can use) within X seconds of his using one of his specific specials one too many times, causing him to get tired momentarily (Jaeger or final Zagi fight), and do it before killing him. To make it just a little more evil, nothing in-game suggests what you need to do (for most of them), let alone that you CAN alter the battle in this way: (specifics)
Getting every other cheevo -- Plat trophy on Ps3 (japan only), ZERO-point cheevo on 360: (no lifer)
Tales of Vesperia is a good example.
It has cheevos for:
Completing story arcs (the last boss can be a pain, tho): (gimmes)
Pulling off specific actions ("Secret Missions") during specific boss fights. These range from "oh, that was easy" (don't lose aggro/let your healer get hit in Zagi I) to "Reload Save x50 because the requirements are so strict" (Hit boss with one specific special attack (that only one character can use) within X seconds of his using one of his specific specials one too many times, causing him to get tired momentarily (Jaeger or final Zagi fight), and do it before killing him. To make it just a little more evil, nothing in-game suggests what you need to do (for most of them), let alone that you CAN alter the battle in this way: (specifics)
Getting every other cheevo -- Plat trophy on Ps3 (japan only), ZERO-point cheevo on 360: (no lifer)
Certain multiplayer achievements, I can deal with. "Reach Prestige Mode" in games like Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and Gotham City Impostors, not so much.
"Beat the invincible cheese monster that is our final boss fight, on the hardest difficulty setting, with every character in the game" is a staple of Capcom fighters that needs to go away. Immediately.
Trying to clean up Prototype before the sequel drops, there was one collectible for the Streetwise achievement that nearly caused me to throw the game away. Putting doodads in hard-to-reach places, fine, go nuts. Making a doodad hard to reach by wrenching control away from the player if they approach in the wrong way, that's the kind of bad design that makes me wish the developers had just been lazy instead.
"Beat the invincible cheese monster that is our final boss fight, on the hardest difficulty setting, with every character in the game" is a staple of Capcom fighters that needs to go away. Immediately.
Trying to clean up Prototype before the sequel drops, there was one collectible for the Streetwise achievement that nearly caused me to throw the game away. Putting doodads in hard-to-reach places, fine, go nuts. Making a doodad hard to reach by wrenching control away from the player if they approach in the wrong way, that's the kind of bad design that makes me wish the developers had just been lazy instead.