Subreddit's "strike" over recently hired person involved with pedophiles
- Thread starter Specter Von Baren
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1 Google search man.
Some companies already do far more in depth for some stuff than 1 google search already such as the oh so lovely tool some HR departments are bringing in of the "Company culture compatibility" assessment systems to determine the best candidate for the company based on how much of an advantage they'd be for the company to make money vs cost rather than how good they actually are. So basically a test of how socially compliant they are determined to be and how much the company to push them to do more work and they'll take it to try and impress and not realise they're getting taken advantage of.
Ok none of the following is verified so take this all with a mountain of salt.
In this case the concern are as follows.
1) She still hired her dad as part of her campaign team despite the pending trial at the time and claimed she "Didn't know" the full story despite presumably a fucking police raid on the house. So Judgement, not exactly great there.
2) Her present partners having expressed views that I don't want to write here (which coming from me you should know it means it's pretty extreme) while said partners also manages subreddits that are young adult focussed more specifically young adults who may be "discovering" themselves and what who they like so may be even more open to being taken advantage of.
3) Has a history of using identity claims against people when her actions are questioned. (You think Twitch's Deer Girl is bad this girl was likely worse)
All in all this was a PR disaster waiting to happen for reddit because:
- Reddit has had issues of grooming before or allegations of it happening
- This was a staff position of power being handed to some-one with two separate links to child abuse her fathers action and the tweets from one of her partners.
- Even if nothing major happened and there was no abuse of position almost any pushback to anything would face claims it was due to her identity as a way to silence it I mean she's already done it to two of the more Left wing parties in the UK.
Have you never been subject to a security clearance or written a selection criteria in the last fifteen years? All of that shit is on there already. It isn't new.
Right you are; edited.
That doesn't relate to Reddit; that was in her capacity as an electoral candidate for the Green Party.
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The point of locking down the forums was so people could get answers from Reddit about this and prevent people on their subreddits from getting perma-banned just for mentioning this person's name. This only blew up because of them banning someone who posted an article that mentioned the person in question in passing.
So, I was able to rapidly find out who this person is.
They have not been convicted of a crime. Their father was convicted of a sex offence against a minor, and their spouse has been accused of writing some paedophilia-friendly comments on social media (but claims the account was hacked - hmm). Therefore, this individual has, personally, not done anything directly illegal.
The problem arrives that this person employed their father as a campaign manager for an election - after he had been charged for a sex offence against a minor, albeit before his conviction. This is at best poor judgement. When combined with the alleged comments from the husband, the associations here do not look good at all.
She was fired from Reddit because she hired somebody she probably shouldn't have for a different job, unrelated to her job at Reddit?
This is very convoluted and I'm feeling way out of my depth. I'm not even entirely sure exactly which part I'm supposed to be angry about. I should probably just stay out of Current Events, I just get bored sometimes and look at the Latest Posts sidebar...
Perhaps this should be the beginning and end of the involvement of internet randos like us.
There's a lot of different factors that lead to this being a big deal. One that I haven't brought up yet is that reddit has been increasing it's restrictions on what people can say. Now, I'm not trying to bring up the same old song and dance we've had before, the thing that makes this different from usual times is how vague they're being about it.
Mods for various subreddits have decided to ban the talking of certain subjects for the safety of the subreddit and its members because certain words being used can get people and subreddits banned or shut down but the administrators aren't telling people what this words are.
This is extreme levels of beaurocratic nonsense and it's another reason this incident blew up.
I don't think you've done anything "wrong" or are out of your depth. I think you're right that this is complex, and we have less than ideal information on the matter.
I think the problem is that this is part of the wider conflict between tech media and public in what they should and shouldn't allow and this is a way to attack Reddit. After that, it is coupled with the ever spicy whiff of paedophilia hysteria.
Can I amend my previous statement from "I'm not allowed to answer that question" to "nobody is allowed to answer that question"
She also, apparently, was living in the house where the abuse took place at the time. Now, there is absolutely no evidence she knew one way or another about her father's activities, but I personally find it hard to believe she could be entirely clueless about it. To then go on and bring in said father as her campaign manager after the arrest shows callous disregard for how heinous his actions were at best. Her husband having such proclivities just adds another huge red flag even if it's not something she is guilty of herself.
It's certainly something that proper vetting should have brought up.
Another possibility I mentioned earlier is that the father may have manipulated or threatened his family. It wouldn't be the first time something like that has caused a relative to feel incapable of coming forward.
...Or that might not be the case. We just don't know very much about all this. But with how little we know, there are feasible scenarios that don't involve endorsement or outright complicity.
The point of locking down the forums was so people could get answers from Reddit about this and prevent people on their subreddits from getting perma-banned just for mentioning this person's name. This only blew up because of them banning someone who posted an article that mentioned the person in question in passing.
[/QUOTE]Isn't it funny all those subreddits went on protest because they couldn't talk about something, and it ended up being talked about all over reddit and no one was banned? It was all over the 40k subreddits, no one got banned, and they weren't even on private
..... But people did get banned.... The very reason it blew up is because someone GOT BANNED. WTF are you talking about?!
Well, I'm stopping me from saying certain things, and I might suggest most people should consider doing so as well.
Could you stop yourself a little more effectively?
That the very idea people were talking about it proves it wasn't as big of a deal as they claim? The claim is everyone who was talking about it got banned, sure. Then how did anyone hear about it? I saw it mentioned all over the place, no bans.
I'm sure in like a UK subreddit people were banned, but why does r/Water care? Why did any other subreddit that didn't involve the mods or admins that wasn't banning anyone for talking about it involved in the least? Why mass protests to something that was by definition both an isolated event and one that had no impact on anything else?