Summer Lesson TGS 2016 Preview - Notice me Senpai!

[Eric the Orange]

Age of consent in Japan is 13. So to them, that's all not actually all that creepy to them.

so the only thing that makes something wrong is because the law says so. If their was no age of consent in your country you would have no problem with middle aged men having sex with children?

 

[Davroth]

Age of consent in Japan is 13. So to them, that's all not actually all that creepy to them.

so the only thing that makes something wrong is because the law says so. If their was no age of consent in your country you would have no problem with middle aged men having sex with children?

Kindly point out where I say anything to that effect. Don't strawman me, please, thank you.

Edit: Many in this thread seem to make the mistake to think that when you tutor someone, there has to be a big age difference, which is not really the case. In these kinds clich? situations, more often then not, you get tutored by your senior, who's one year above you in your own school, or even in the same grade.

 

[Eric the Orange]

Age of consent in Japan is 13. So to them, that's all not actually all that creepy to them.

so the only thing that makes something wrong is because the law says so. If their was no age of consent in your country you would have no problem with middle aged men having sex with children?

Kindly point out where I say anything to that effect. Don't strawman me, please, thank you.

well in the actual part I quoted you said "Age of consent in Japan is 13. So to them, that's all not actually all that creepy to them." implying that because the law (age of consent) wasn't broken, people where that law applies (Japan) don't think it's creepy.

So my argument was, if the law where you are was that their is no age of consent than by your logic you would not be creeped out by people abiding by that law (or lack there of) because you are a person living in where that law applies.

 

[Davroth]

well in the actual part I quoted you said "Age of consent in Japan is 13. So to them, that's all not actually all that creepy to them." implying that because the law (age of consent) wasn't broken, people where that law applies (Japan) don't think it's creepy.

So my argument was, if the law where you are was that their is no age of consent than by your logic you would not be creeped out by people abiding by that law (or lack there of) because you are a person living in where that law applies.

You are pretty culturally insensitive, you know that? They blatantly don't consider it creepy or inappropriate as demonstrated by huge corporation Sony making it one of their flagship titles for the rollout of their VR headset. Pretty self explanatory I think.

And seeing how we are talking about a work of fiction which contain absolutely zero sexual content, your point is a strawman against the game and Japanese culture to begin with. A culture, I might add, you seem to have no knowledge of, judging by your line of arguing.

 

[Eric the Orange]

well in the actual part I quoted you said "Age of consent in Japan is 13. So to them, that's all not actually all that creepy to them." implying that because the law (age of consent) wasn't broken, people where that law applies (Japan) don't think it's creepy.

So my argument was, if the law where you are was that their is no age of consent than by your logic you would not be creeped out by people abiding by that law (or lack there of) because you are a person living in where that law applies.

You are pretty culturally insensitive, you know that? They blatantly don't consider it creepy or inappropriate as demonstrated by huge corporation Sony making it one of their flagship titles for the rollout of their VR headset. Pretty self explanatory I think.

And seeing how we are talking about a work of fiction which contain absolutely zero sexual content, your point is a strawman against the game and Japanese culture to begin with. A culture, I might add, you seem to have no knowledge of, judging by your line of arguing.

And what exactly am I arguing? Because by the sound of it what you think I am saying and what I am actually saying are two different things entirely.

I never once said anything disparaging about anyone who would enjoy this game. just because I would personally find it creepy does not mean that I am insulting anyone who would not find it creepy. People can have different opinions and that's fine by me.

In fact in my original post responding to you I put no opinions forth at all about the game or people who would like it. my one and only point was that saying people agree with something just because that's the law seems flawed. Hence why I made an example where the law was different but I doubt people would be OK with it.

You're now putting forth a different line of reasoning saying that a large corporation would not put out a product that would conflict with the morals of the customer base. Which is a better argument and one I don't want to debate.

To point, I never said anything was WRONG with the age of consent being 13 in Japan.

 

[Davroth]

And what exactly am I arguing? Because by the sound of it what you think I am saying and what I am actually saying are two different things entirely.

I never once said anything disparaging about anyone who would enjoy this game. just because I would personally find it creepy does not mean that I am insulting anyone who would not find it creepy. People can have different opinions and that's fine by me.

In fact in my original post responding to you I put no opinions forth at all about the game or people who would like it. my one and only point was that saying people agree with something just because that's the law seems flawed. Hence why I made an example where the law was different but I doubt people would be OK with it.

You're now putting forth a different line of reasoning saying that a large corporation would not put out a product that would conflict with the morals of the customer base. Which is a better argument and one I don't want to debate.

To point, I never said anything was WRONG with the age of consent being 13 in Japan.

so the only thing that makes something wrong is because the law says so. If their was no age of consent in your country you would have no problem with middle aged men having sex with children?

Yeah, there's nothing about that that implies that /you/ are considering it creepy at all. Very funny. Matter of fact you call the game creepy just a little above. My argument has not change one bit, by the way. Compare:

And since those kinds of games are mostly made for the home market, I wouldn't bet on them to care all that much what the rest of the world thinks.

It's very obvious you consider it creepy, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to try and make that argument in the first place.

 

[Eric the Orange]

And what exactly am I arguing? Because by the sound of it what you think I am saying and what I am actually saying are two different things entirely.

I never once said anything disparaging about anyone who would enjoy this game. just because I would personally find it creepy does not mean that I am insulting anyone who would not find it creepy. People can have different opinions and that's fine by me.

In fact in my original post responding to you I put no opinions forth at all about the game or people who would like it. my one and only point was that saying people agree with something just because that's the law seems flawed. Hence why I made an example where the law was different but I doubt people would be OK with it.

You're now putting forth a different line of reasoning saying that a large corporation would not put out a product that would conflict with the morals of the customer base. Which is a better argument and one I don't want to debate.

To point, I never said anything was WRONG with the age of consent being 13 in Japan.

so the only thing that makes something wrong is because the law says so. If their was no age of consent in your country you would have no problem with middle aged men having sex with children?

Yeah, there's nothing about that that implies that /you/ are considering it creepy at all. Very funny. Matter of fact you call the game creepy just a little above. My argument has not change one bit, by the way. Compare:

And since those kinds of games are mostly made for the home market, I wouldn't bet on them to care all that much what the rest of the world thinks.

It's very obvious you consider it creepy, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to try and make that argument in the first place.

Yes "I" find it creepy. What does that matter? Like I said before just because I believe something does not mean I am judging others who believe differently.

My argument was about logic. Plain and simple. Just because YOU are reading more into it isn't my fault. The point of the post was to point out an error in logic. Not to say that they are wrong for believing what they do.

Again, the one and ONLY thing I said is that just because something is OK by the law doesn't mean people think that it is morally OK.

YOU are the one that want's to make it mean more than that, not me. Ironic that you talk of strawmen arguments.

 

[Davroth]

Yes "I" find it creepy. What does that matter? Like I said before just because I believe something does not mean I am judging others who believe differently.

My argument was about logic. Plain and simple. Just because YOU are reading more into it isn't my fault. The point of the post was to point out an error in logic. Not to say that they are wrong for believing what they do.

Again, the one and ONLY thing I said is that just because something is OK by the law doesn't mean people think that it is morally OK.

YOU are the one that want's to make it mean more than that, not me. Ironic that you talk of strawmen arguments.

I didn't make an error in logic, at least not the one you were calling me out on, hence why you were strawmanning my post. The age of consent is 13 in Japan. Fact. The game is produced for the home market primarily. Fact. Hence the Japanese don't seem to think it's creepy, which is literally all that matters when it comes to who's sensibilities it appeals to.

You also presume an age difference in the first place. What do you base that on, anyway? Private tutors can be any age, including an 'appropriate' age range.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Yeah, she's wearing a maid outfit. That tells me everything I need to know right there.

I think that's her work outfit. She works in a maid cafe or something like that.

That doesn't change the fact that it's a fetish costume. In fact it confirms it.

Who am I to judge, though? Jail bait simulator 2016 does look pretty well made.

You do realize that the schoolgirl outfit itself is a fetish costume, right? As in, if you go to a love hotel in Japan there's a tv with a gamepad attatched and you can order schoolgirl clothes for your partner to wear during the encounter. That levels of commonplace.

 

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

I am just amused that the reviewer is getting all hot and bothered by a game that has zero actual sexual content.

If the reviewer is getting turned on, that is not the game's problem. The girl is keeping all her clothes on, you have a job to do, and any personal desires you might arise is your own imagination. I say this game review tells us more about the reviewer than it tells us about the game.