Super Street Fighter IV Won't Ever Become Hyper or Ultra
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First direct sequel?Noelveiga said:Well, DLC doesn't make as much money as full releases, but it doesn't cost as much to make, either. It's about nickel-and-diming you to death.Straying Bullet said:I probaly used the wrong choice of words there.
Will they stop making endless of Street Fighter games where you don't even know which one is which? Yes, for me, that's not milking out a franchise anymore.
Will they bring out DLC, obviously stated above, constantly? Yes. But however, I do not expect it to make big bucks like it would with every game they pushed out. DLC is for me that's minor, after playing the game you probaly would move on. That's not grand-scale milking, that's just getting some tiny-ittle bits for the DLC. Correct me if I am wrong tho'.
To me, 10 new characters and gameplay tweaks almost put Super IV on the level of a full sequel (most Street Fighter Alpha numbered games had less new material than this), while the stupid, stupid costume packs in Street Fighter IV were heavy duty milking, giving you next to nothing for almost 15 bucks.
I'm curious about your shot at Nintendo earlier, though. How is Nintendo "milking" their franchises? Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the first straight up sequel to a Mario game since Super Mario Bros. 3 and there have been a grand total of 2 Zeldas and 3 Metroids in the last two generations of consoles.
To put it in perspective, there have been 5 Halo games and 6 Call of Duty games in the same period.
Mario party one through Mario Party seventeen or whatever? And you're including handheld itterations in those calculations. There's been a fair few Metroid games.
I never really understood why people were so opposed to Super Street Fighter IV anyway... COD releases a new game every November and fans of the game/genre couldn't be happier ... I'm a HUGE street fighter fan and wouldn't mind paying full retail for Super. They've added a bunch of improvements and characters and it's been over a year since the last... if capcom named it V instead of S.IV would it seem better ?
Metroid Fusion. Zero Mission. Metroid NES. Prime Hunters.Decoy Doctorpus said:
Not milked.
Mario Party and spinoffs. YES. Milking.
Yes because Mario Party, Mario Tennis, etc. are totally all platformer titles. No, no they aren't. They're just using established characters in other settings and gametypes. Not milking. Saying those are franchise milking is like saying Super Smash Bros. is milking all of Nintendo's franchises which is just silly.Onyx Oblivion said:
There have only been 14 Mario games in that vein, counting Game Boy Super Mario Land titles (and The Lost Levels) and discounting any remakes and anthology collections because those don't count. Just like the spinoffs don't count because they're their own franchises in a way because they're completely different from the core game. Mario Kart cannot be considered a Super Mario Bros. game because it's completely different, for example. You can make a case for the characters being overexposed (mascot characters being used a lot? Perish the thought!) but definitely not milked and frankly I don't even know why people keep beating this dead horse because Nintendo continues to sell Mario and other franchise titles like crazy, often beating the so-called "hardcore" titles. So if what they're doing is working, why does it matter? It's not like they're coming to your house and kicking you in the nuts for being wrong now is it.
Back on topic, if we're going to keep getting on Nintendo's case you're going to have to get on the cases of every other company just about. Because apparently putting out more than 5 titles in a series including any spinoffs is franchise milking. Konami, Capcom, Ubisoft, and many others would all be "guilty" of this under the exceedingly erratic logic of what constitutes franchise milking. I would even go so far as to say that only Street Fighter II was really milked out of the Street Fighter series and even that's a tenative statement at best considering each new title at least added something in some way to the main formula, be it new fighters or new game modes.
DAMMIT WHAT IS THIS CALUMON THING!??!?! YOUR DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!Catkid906 said:
....Sorry about that.
OP: It's good to see that I wont be confused as hell for once.
Kind of cool, kind of disapointing. It seems to mark the end of the Capcom we all grew up with, but ho-hum.
But if theres DLC and they finally sort out the rights issue for the EX characters and we get Doctrine Dark, I'll be very happy indeed.
But if theres DLC and they finally sort out the rights issue for the EX characters and we get Doctrine Dark, I'll be very happy indeed.
The FRANCHISE is going to continue, as even clearly stated in the article. SF IV will not have any more expansions is all. Though, expect an SF V or something similar in the future.Straying Bullet said:
IMO the stuff in Super Street Fighter 4 could have just been DLC - yet they go and make it a whole new game. Thanks, Capcom! At least it's priced at a lower than usual $40 so I'll give them that.
Soo, they made a game that's good, now they want to stop it.
That's exactly what everyone always wanted: not to weaken a memory, but now Capcom is doing it, they get stick for it? What gives?
I find the idea noble, but I'dd also like to see the game return for the next console generation. Escpecially since it'll be 3D. Imagine SSF in 3D!
That's exactly what everyone always wanted: not to weaken a memory, but now Capcom is doing it, they get stick for it? What gives?
I find the idea noble, but I'dd also like to see the game return for the next console generation. Escpecially since it'll be 3D. Imagine SSF in 3D!
Street Fighter was too much of a popular series. I mean yes, it's very popular now, but nowhere near the level it was when street fighter II was around. Fighting games have become a lot more niche since those times.Sir Kemper said:
From what I've been seeing, he's still really good but his biggest damage dealing combo (tiger uppercut fadc forward roundhouse into ultra for 70% damage) has been nerfed to about a half of what it did before. His tiger uppercuts only do about 100 damage unless you power them up manually and his health is also down by a bit.bjj hero said:
If I were to guess which character is going to be the best this time around, Zangief's air 720 that grabs people from the ground if they're close enough seems to make him kind of nuts. Hakan is another possibility, since he's basically Zangief with the capability to do quick slide from full screen and piledrive you. I mean, damn. Plus he has an ultra that makes jumping at him an act of suicide. Kind of like Seth, except he has tons more life.
I'll be all over Makoto myself. I like gambling.
