Supergirl show. So, how was it?

[Eddie the head]

While the actual fight choreography wasn't good, I wasn't expecting it to be on say Daredevil [https://youtu.be/vV1Vzn6xwqQ] level of good. I was more speaking to the special effects of people getting kicked through walls and the impacts they made on objects. I was ok with SG's lack of fighting style as it fits a character who probably has never thrown a punch in anger before due to fear of kicking someone's head off as a kid.

See, this comment confuses me, considering the premise of the show. They send her to Earth to protect Kal-El. So...how would she not know how to fight? I mean, if the entire point of sending her is "to protect someone", sending someone who is incapable of fighting seems....beyond stupid. So in theory she actually should know how to throw a punch.

There are other ways to protect people than just being a body guard. When you broadly say parents are protecting there children more often than not you just mean that they're raising them. You don't need to be a kung fu expert to avoid taking small children to a sex offenders house.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

I can't remember why, but I was in and out of the room a lot. But what I saw wasn't very good. Looks remarkably like the new Flash show.

Flash is actually pretty good. It's leagues above Arrow and Supergirl.

 

[Cicada 5]

Meh.

My GF and I both are really into the current crop of Superhero shows, and its... ok. We're going to keep watching it some more to see if it improves, but currently ranked on the bottom of my list. My GF said it felt a bit immature, and we're going to watch it with our kids (as opposed to Daredevil, which they can't watch )

They did beat the "but your just a girl" into the ground a few too many times. I mean seriously, that would happen like once, then she would break a tank in half, then everyone would be like, "OK! Moving on!"

Yeah, the "you're just a girl!" aspect was what seemed the most annoying to me. It reeked of playing that card to death from what I saw. Sad to hear it actually ended up doing exactly that. Reminds me of the female Thor comics, that played that same freaking card to death. Le sigh.

Haven't you heard? A female cannot be the central protagonist of anything without everybody in that work constantly pointing out they are female and making sexist comments about it. A protagonist cannot simply be female and that's the end of it, ever.

Exactly! Unless people realize that this is a trite, insulting to everybody and, worst of all, fucking stupid way of handling these things, we are never going to move on to greater things.

Everyone need to stop acting like girls doing cool stuff is such a big deal; That's just having everything boil down to gender again, which is what feminists want to avoid in the first place. (At least the ones who truly want equality, not the whiny offended man-hating bitches who just want special treatment)
Also, while I haven't seen the trailers, I vaguely remember someone on this forum talking about a scene where a mother tells Supergirl that her daughter "finally has a role model" in the form of, well, Supergirl. This might just be me missing some point, but what the fuck, who says that girls can't have male role models or that they must have a female role model?

Things just need to stop being divided into "awesome guy" and "awesome girl". Can't we just leave role models as "awesome people"?

I don't think it's insulting to acknowledge the way stuff like gender, race, religion etc affects how we are treated and viewed in the world. It's not like this will happen every episode. As they say, all art is propaganda. These things matter in the real world. We can't act like they don't

 

[MrMisfit]

I've seen both episodes so far and I think it's pretty bad. My main issue with the show is most of the characters are very cliche. The Supergirl character and her foster sister are fine but, the rest are terrible.

 

[RedDeadFred]

I've only seen the preview from several months back. That alone convinced me that I'll never want to watch this show.

Agents of Shield, Arrow, and Flash all have some pretty cringy dialogue/acting at times, but the previews for Super Girl were too painful for me to get through.

 

[FPLOON]

My mom saw it and she wasn't that impressed... I could have watched it with her, but I was too busy watching Gotham because not only was I already invested in that series, but because they share the same [live] timeslot where I'm from... Then again, if my DVR is correct, I could catch the third episode since not only is it coming on after Gotham, but also the show I'm currently watching at that time (Minority Report) isn't going to have a new episode for another week or so...

Other than that, I'm sure this show will get a second season faster than Constantine's cancellation, so the writers/directors of this show have all the time in the world to improve before The Flash ends up going through a portal into Supergirl's turf, for example...

 

[sanquin]

Yeah, I'm not American. The Netherlands sound cool though.
These are just my experiences being a "tomboy" my entire life. Hell, I mean, it's even a huge issue in games that women can't talk on them without getting `OMG GIRL`. Which, while very cringe-worthy, is unfortunately still a thing.

I always picture a hormonal teen or an awkward adult that never grew past his puberty when I see people going 'omg, a girl!' in games. ^^;; I guess I'm glad I live in the Netherlands then, as I'm not exactly a macho man myself.

 

[laggyteabag]

Meh. It needs time to really get into the swing of things, but right now, I am finding it quite hard to sit there and watch it without fiddling about with other things.

Will probably keep on watching it, but mostly as background audio, for the time being anyway.

 

[laggyteabag]

As far as her being sent to protect Kal-El, I think it was more of a "you're a child old enough to dress yourself and speak complete sentences, while he's an infant pooping himself" kind of protection expected of her.

So then she's now older than him right? I mean if she was already a teenager when he was an infant, she should be middle aged, instead of a 20's girl who is likely portrayed as younger than Superman. This just seems incredibly flawed storytelling to me, with huge, Goatsee level of gaping plotholes.

The whole thing is that when she was sent after Superman, she got stuck in some kind of black hole thing where time didn't pass for her, and by the time she got out, Superman had already been on earth for like, 20 years or so, so when she landed, she was still a young teenager, and he was around 20-25.

 

[EyeReaper]

Me and a buddy watched the first episode yesterday. He has kept up to date with all of these live action supershow zeitgeist, I have watched about twenty seconds of one episode of daredevil. We both agreed that it really wasn't worth the time to watch episode two.

I mean, c'mon. You have to try to make a skinhead alien with an explosive nuclear battleaxe lame, but they fucking pulled it off woth the first line from his mouth. Honestly the best scene was when Bitchy McTooBossy (I think that was her name) told Kara right the fuck off over the "Oh its so demeaning to be named girl." I think this entire episode can be summed up with these quotes

Totally not Nick Fury: She isn't strong enough to fight him.

Strong independent perfect womyn: Why, because she's a girl?

Which I'm pretty surprised wasn't followed up with this:

 

[Treeberry]

Eh. It was quite naff really. It could have been good. It definitely did the whole 'Lol, did you think I/she couldn't do {x} because I'm a giiiiiiiiirl?'. The characters act like idiot teens and the choreography was poor. The Lifetime movie style music really grated on me too.

The whole 'my gender doesn't matter thing' doesn't work if it's spoken aloud or made too obvious. Especially if the central protagonist has superhero powers. I don't know the original source material but I dislike how Kara is supposed to be older and yet acts like she's still a thirteen year old as well as the whole 'age frozen in space' thing. Blech.

As far as empowerment goes, my opinion is that 'empowered' characters are subtle*. There's better and more mature stuff out there but maybe it'll get less cringeworthy (I've only seen the pilot).

*Maybe 'subtle' isn't the right word. I'm not sure how to phrase it.

Honestly the best scene was when Bitchy McTooBossy (I think that was her name) told Kara right the fuck off over the "Oh its so demeaning to be named girl."

I liked that part too. I'm going to call boss lady AU Ally McBeal though.

EDIT: The second episode seems better and the boss lady definitely has a few pearls of wisdom anyway.