Supreme Court rejects affirmative action at colleges as unconstitutional

[Silvanus]

Nope, never did that ever.

Really! You 'never ever' said American AA was necessarily racist? Let's review some of your posts in this thread:

I know well enough about AA to know it's unequivocally a racist policy.

it is bad due to being a straight up racist policy regardless if the benefits outweigh the costs or not.

AA is racist and therefore bad, it's that simple.

How does affirmative action not fall under racism?

How can't you agree that affirmative action is racist? You abide by literally no principles.

Affirmative action is just a straight-up racist policy on a pure principle level and there's no way to argue it isn't.

American slavery was definitely racist and so was American AA.

There is also no "could be or could not be" about AA's racism either.

American versions were definitely racist.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Really! You 'never ever' said American AA was necessarily racist? Let's review some of your posts in this thread:

And what kind of AA is the thread about?



Do I need to spell out that GOW means God of War in a God of War thread so people aren't confused because it could also be Gears of War?

 

[Ag3ma]

And what kind of AA is the thread about?

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I literally stayed on point about the topic title the whole time, but I'm the one moving goal posts... sure thing dude...

So in a thread about showing stats about how cops are racist, every time someone in that thread mentions that cops are racist they have to specify they mean only the racist ones (as there's obviously cops that aren't racist). That's fucking inferred. Why do you guys make dumb arguments just to argue about something?

 

[Silvanus]

So in a thread about showing stats about how cops are racist, every time someone in that thread mentions that cops are racist they have to specify they mean only the racist ones (as there's obviously cops that aren't racist). That's fucking inferred. Why do you guys make dumb arguments just to argue about something?

"If I say something, you should assume its tautological".

 

[Trunkage]

I literally stayed on point about the topic title the whole time, but I'm the one moving goal posts... sure thing dude...

So in a thread about showing stats about how cops are racist, every time someone in that thread mentions that cops are racist they have to specify they mean only the racist ones (as there's obviously cops that aren't racist). That's fucking inferred. Why do you guys make dumb arguments just to argue about something?

Specifically because AA cannot be, by the US constitution, be written in a racist way.

99% of the way AA in America is used is not in a racist way. This Harvard case is just giving African Americans and Latinos the exact same privileges as Whites.... it just left out Asians and other groups. Which it shouldn't have.

If you stop Harvard from doing this new policy, the OLD policy is still racist. The case has fixed no problems

And, more importantly, a win in this casw has given a win to actual racist. Because now only Whites get those privileges

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Specifically because AA cannot be, by the US constitution, be written in a racist way.

99% of the way AA in America is used is not in a racist way. This Harvard case is just giving African Americans and Latinos the exact same privileges as Whites.... it just left out Asians and other groups. Which it shouldn't have.

If you stop Harvard from doing this new policy, the OLD policy is still racist. The case has fixed no problems

And, more importantly, a win in this casw has given a win to actual racist. Because now only Whites get those privileges

Case in point, these same tactics were used to get AA removed from the California system in the '90s. Shockingly, Asian enrollment did not go up. Tanked the Latinos though

The Asian penalty in college admissions is still here — even without affirmative action

Legacy and geographic preferences will continue to favor white applicants, a new study finds.

www.vox.com

Oops

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Specifically because AA cannot be, by the US constitution, be written in a racist way.

99% of the way AA in America is used is not in a racist way. This Harvard case is just giving African Americans and Latinos the exact same privileges as Whites.... it just left out Asians and other groups. Which it shouldn't have.

If you stop Harvard from doing this new policy, the OLD policy is still racist. The case has fixed no problems

And, more importantly, a win in this casw has given a win to actual racist. Because now only Whites get those privileges

How is the old policy racist?

What privileges are whites getting that others aren't?

 

[Trunkage]

How is the old policy racist?

What privileges are whites getting that others aren't?

Legit, are you serious?

Do you know what this case was about?

Because I've stated it at least three times to you

Did you read how Kavanagh and Comie-Barret noted that Harvard were just expanding European America privilieges to Latinos and African Americans which unintentionally excluded Asian American? That some form of AA NEEDS to keep going or most minority group will be disadvantaged

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Legit, are you serious?

Do you know what this case was about?

Because I've stated it at least three times to you

Did you read how Kavanagh and Comie-Barret noted that Harvard were just expanding European America privilieges to Latinos and African Americans which unintentionally excluded Asian American? That some form of AA NEEDS to keep going or most minority group will be disadvantaged

They just ruled you can't use race as a metric for admission, how is that bad on principle? My morality/ethics is principle based and not result based. The solution to the problem is to evenly distribute school money per kid (and slight adjustments for cost of living by area so a city kid would get slightly more allotted) during grade school and high school vs the rich neighborhoods get all their money bullshit.

 

[Gergar12]

Even if I disagree with this ruling. The fact it drives certain people on Tik Tok crazy is amazing.

 

[Satinavian]

What privileges are whites getting that others aren't?

Legacy admission.

But in this whole thread no one defended legacy admission. Everyone mentioning it considered it unfair and a thing to abolish, no matter the stance on AA. I really hope it is the next on the chopping block after race as admission criterium is gone.