Poor analogy. The claim being made by the people behind the survey is not 'violent videogames cause violence', but:OANST said:If I tell you that the Big Mac causes people to get fat you can say "No, it doesn't. Look at these statistics! Since the Big Mac was introduced there is not a larger percentage of fat people", and you would be wrong. Because the one does not equal the other. Perhaps whatever people used to eat that made them fat is no longer being eaten since the Big Mac came out. Just because there aren't more dead people doesn't mean that a product isn't deadly. It just doesn't work like that.
To use your analogy, it would be like if you told me that the big mac has caused an increase in the percentage of fat people and I say "No, it doesn't. Look at these statistics! Since the Big Mac was introduced there is not a larger percentage of fat people", and I would be right since I have disproved the second part of your claim, that the percentage of fat people has increased. Therefore Andy's sited evidence that there has been a dip in violence does disprove the claim that violent videogames are a cause of increased violence in the real world.Andy Chalk said:violent videogames are a cause of increased violence in the real world
Risking portraying myself as the "insufferable prick", that might well be because people who do think otherwise really are remarkably lazy morons who do not bother to take responsibility for themselves or get their facts straight.feather240 said:I'm kinda getting that vibe from the escapist in general.(Anecdotal) Almost every article about video games being violent should be banned comes with some smug comment on how they shouldn't be and everyone who thinks otherwise is a drooling moron.OANST said:Survey says: Escapist writer uses anecdotal evidence to make himself look smart in latest aggressive, ill-informed article.
I-... Is the bigger picture meant to look... Sexual?sheogoraththemad said:come on people let's get a facepalm combo going!
*Sigh*teh_Canape said:54% of american adults can be represented by this here graphic
on a side note, I'm really wondering how is that possible, I mean, holy shit
How many gamers believe that video games do not cause real violence? Now how many of them get their facts about the issue by researching it? Now how many just lap up what their preferred brand of news tells them? The only real difference is that our side is actually right, so it makes us look like we're well read about the subject.Ernil Menegil said:Risking portraying myself as the "insufferable prick", that might well be because people who do think otherwise really are remarkably lazy morons who do not bother to take responsibility for themselves or get their facts straight.feather240 said:I'm kinda getting that vibe from the escapist in general.(Anecdotal) Almost every article about video games being violent should be banned comes with some smug comment on how they shouldn't be and everyone who thinks otherwise is a drooling moron.OANST said:Survey says: Escapist writer uses anecdotal evidence to make himself look smart in latest aggressive, ill-informed article.
You do realize America probably has the lightest form of video game censorship out of any country, yes? Our only real law is you cant sell it to minors. Which is hardly enforced.Lord Kloo said:You just made my day..Jiraiya72 said:Survey says: "Uninformed idiots are uninformed". Yes, yes they are.
It's America, they like to be contraversial to pretend they're still the big boys in the world, as long as their game laws don't come into the UN and then good ol' England I'll be happy as Larry*
* (Larry isn't really that happy, he got made redundant last week)
PS: Parents who think that video games cause violence should look at the fact that if they don't let their kids play on games (violence or no violence) with other kids, they become depressed and eventually can't take it.. besides it's the future, I say: "Live with it"
Fitting avatar.Jiraiya72 said:Survey says: "Uninformed idiots are uninformed". Yes, yes they are.
No, the 54% of adults in the survey can be represented there. They certainly don't take up enough of the US population to accurately represent the entire country. I mean, come on. The US population is 310,714,523. 1000 is a pathetically inadequate sample.teh_Canape said:54% of american adults can be represented by this here graphic
on a side note, I'm really wondering how is that possible, I mean, holy shit
Meh. If your website has a number of videos in which your founder (or at least a representative) appears in Fox News and if you're a polling company, expect some flak at the very least.Blind Sight said:Ah yes, because a large group of uninformed people's opinions are FAR better then someone who actually studies this kind of stuff legitimately.
If you don't believe in something that other people believe in that is fine but don't make fun of them for it. Just because someone does believe in god or some other type of higher power does not make them crazy.Tipsy Giant said:No offence, but you assume I worry whether crazy people have hurt feelings over their "special stories" and it's HILARIOUS that i'm being TOLD TO THINK in relation to stupid superstitions LOLBJ777 said:No offence, but that's like a middle finger to christians & catholics, next time, THINK before you do anything.(coincidentally, that is just what those adults need to do).Tipsy Giant said:Most Americans believe in a giant living in the clouds too, but we try not to laugh at them for that!