Synthetic meat

[SD-Fiend]

I can see synthetic meat being sold but I don't think it will really catch on much especially now with the whole "organic"thing going on

 

[Redweaver]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16972761

Out of interest, what do you think about our artificial-meat future? I think it's a pretty good idea, all things considered. Mainly because of the huge volumes of greenhouse gases that raising large numbers of animals creates.

Also interested as to what the vegetarians think? would you eat lab-meat or not?

nope. Bad idea, farmers loose jobs, cancer may be a side effect, might taste like shit, may be too expensive, and who knows what else.

Sorry but i like my meat like i like my life....real.

Who cares if farmers lose jobs? If their job isn't needed, why artificially create a need? If I decided to go around in a coach with horses letting people hire me to give them lifts, should people stop making cars to save my job?

As for cancer, tasting like shit, being too expensive, those are nonsense excuses. They're all potential reasons, but you can't know if those are going to happen. That's why you test it out.

well for one thing the farmers their families and the people that work in that industry would care if they lose their jobs. and for your example people still do ride in coaches

Yes, they would care. It's a rhetorical question, not a real one. My point is that we shouldn't stop from making them obsolete just for the sake of giving them a job. That's silly favoritism.

And as for my example, farmers will still exist so that works. It's just become an incredibly small market.

it doesn't matter if it's favoritism or not hundreds of people would lose their jobs. and why should we allow for them to lose their jobs anyways? what will they do then?

Here's a wild and crazy idea:

They could...





FIND A NEW JOB!

 

[Fatboy_41]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16972761

Out of interest, what do you think about our artificial-meat future? I think it's a pretty good idea, all things considered. Mainly because of the huge volumes of greenhouse gases that raising large numbers of animals creates.

Also interested as to what the vegetarians think? would you eat lab-meat or not?

nope. Bad idea, farmers loose jobs, cancer may be a side effect, might taste like shit, may be too expensive, and who knows what else.

Sorry but i like my meat like i like my life....real.

Who cares if farmers lose jobs? If their job isn't needed, why artificially create a need? If I decided to go around in a coach with horses letting people hire me to give them lifts, should people stop making cars to save my job?

As for cancer, tasting like shit, being too expensive, those are nonsense excuses. They're all potential reasons, but you can't know if those are going to happen. That's why you test it out.

well for one thing the farmers their families and the people that work in that industry would care if they lose their jobs. and for your example people still do ride in coaches

Yes, they would care. It's a rhetorical question, not a real one. My point is that we shouldn't stop from making them obsolete just for the sake of giving them a job. That's silly favoritism.

And as for my example, farmers will still exist so that works. It's just become an incredibly small market.

it doesn't matter if it's favoritism or not hundreds of people would lose their jobs. and why should we allow for them to lose their jobs anyways? what will they do then?

Yes, it does. Why should those people get jobs for something we don't need them for? If we can do it in a cheaper fashion, why should we do it the hard way and pay more of our money for their less efficient ways? Why shouldn't we allow them to lose their jobs if we don't need their job? They can go and learn to do something that we do need. Just like everyone else in the world.

Then by the same reasoning, why should we bother creating something fake to replace a product that already exists naturally? We don't NEED synthetic meat, we have the real thing. Having said that, I doubt too many farmers would lose their livelihoods. There will always be people that will refuse to eat anything but the real thing. Who knows, I may be one of them. Plus, there are always other crops to farm.

Personally, I'd be interested to see how far they could take this. Could they create the perfect blend of protein, carbs, fatty acids and aminos and still get it to taste as good as a prime cut of beef? Could this eventually become some sort of super food with every vitamin and nutrient the body needs to function at peak efficiency? Why not make various types of meats targeted and various diseases? Have a synthetic insulin stabilizer for diabetics. Cholesterol reducers for those with heart problems. Viagra for the poor blokes that have an ugly missus.

 

[SD-Fiend]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16972761

Out of interest, what do you think about our artificial-meat future? I think it's a pretty good idea, all things considered. Mainly because of the huge volumes of greenhouse gases that raising large numbers of animals creates.

Also interested as to what the vegetarians think? would you eat lab-meat or not?

nope. Bad idea, farmers loose jobs, cancer may be a side effect, might taste like shit, may be too expensive, and who knows what else.

Sorry but i like my meat like i like my life....real.

Who cares if farmers lose jobs? If their job isn't needed, why artificially create a need? If I decided to go around in a coach with horses letting people hire me to give them lifts, should people stop making cars to save my job?

As for cancer, tasting like shit, being too expensive, those are nonsense excuses. They're all potential reasons, but you can't know if those are going to happen. That's why you test it out.

well for one thing the farmers their families and the people that work in that industry would care if they lose their jobs. and for your example people still do ride in coaches

Yes, they would care. It's a rhetorical question, not a real one. My point is that we shouldn't stop from making them obsolete just for the sake of giving them a job. That's silly favoritism.

And as for my example, farmers will still exist so that works. It's just become an incredibly small market.

it doesn't matter if it's favoritism or not hundreds of people would lose their jobs. and why should we allow for them to lose their jobs anyways? what will they do then?

Here's a wild and crazy idea:

They could...





FIND A NEW JOB!

because it's always so easy to get a job. all you have to do is walk in and ask for a job! you don't have to go to college for 2-4 years to get a high paying job either! and so what if someone else gets it instead of you? just go and ask for another one somewhere else! I can't believe that there are so many jobless people out there they're just being lazy.

 

[Redweaver]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16972761

Out of interest, what do you think about our artificial-meat future? I think it's a pretty good idea, all things considered. Mainly because of the huge volumes of greenhouse gases that raising large numbers of animals creates.

Also interested as to what the vegetarians think? would you eat lab-meat or not?

nope. Bad idea, farmers loose jobs, cancer may be a side effect, might taste like shit, may be too expensive, and who knows what else.

Sorry but i like my meat like i like my life....real.

Who cares if farmers lose jobs? If their job isn't needed, why artificially create a need? If I decided to go around in a coach with horses letting people hire me to give them lifts, should people stop making cars to save my job?

As for cancer, tasting like shit, being too expensive, those are nonsense excuses. They're all potential reasons, but you can't know if those are going to happen. That's why you test it out.

well for one thing the farmers their families and the people that work in that industry would care if they lose their jobs. and for your example people still do ride in coaches

Yes, they would care. It's a rhetorical question, not a real one. My point is that we shouldn't stop from making them obsolete just for the sake of giving them a job. That's silly favoritism.

And as for my example, farmers will still exist so that works. It's just become an incredibly small market.

it doesn't matter if it's favoritism or not hundreds of people would lose their jobs. and why should we allow for them to lose their jobs anyways? what will they do then?

Here's a wild and crazy idea:

They could...





FIND A NEW JOB!

because it's always so easy to get a job. all you have to do is walk in and ask for a job! you don't have to go to college for 2-4 years to get a high paying job either! and so what if someone else gets it instead of you? just go and ask for another one somewhere else! I can't believe that there are so many jobless people out there they're just being lazy.

Yeah, so instead of rolling up your sleeves and getting started with the hard work, just whine about it and fight tooth and nail to keep our society in the dark ages so you they can keep their paycheck.

Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and it's beyond time for progress, just like in the oil industry. I'm sorry some people, hell, even a lot of people, will loose money/jobs. Life is harsh like that.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

If it tastes like meat and causes no health problems then I'm all for it. Those big corporations that have large amounts of livestock in crapped slaughter houses should consider going this route, as it would be less expensive and it would get all those animal activists out of their face (and into a synthetic cheese burger).

 

[applesandoranges]

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[SadakoMoose]

The best thing about the advent and eventually consumer adaptation of synthetic meat will be the major environmental benefit. If we can mass produce the synth-meat, it means we can stop having needlessly large ranches in South America and the like. I mean, those Smithfield plants are a toxic hazard, and don't get me started on the methane produced by hundreds of cows on a feed lot being fed the bovine equivalent of government cheese.
With the widespread use of synth-meat we can cut the Pig/Chicken/Cow population back by 3/4th's, leaving behind only a small number of dedicated, legitimate, ranchers and the free range variety.

 

[Vanilla_Druid]

I personally prefer tofu and/or vegetables. It is just that I am stuck in rural Minnesota with a house full of carnivores, so tofu is hard to find. I do not mind meat, but I would not be distressed if the world's meat production stopped. Also, farmers would not lose jobs if they would grow plant based food (which actually takes less energy, believe it or not).

 

[Fatboy_41]

Don't be stupid. I didn't say to create it for the sake of creating it. That isn't the same reasoning if you thought about it for a half second. I'm saying it doesn't matter if farmers lose their jobs to it. Just like I wouldn't tell farmers to quit just so synthetic meat could get on the market, which would be the equivalent. Think before posting, it saves trouble.

You say we won't need farmers because we'll have synthetic meat. I say we don't need synthetic meat because we have farmers. Seems pretty similar to me. But that's not really the point I wanted to make. I truly think the number of farmers that went out of business would be minimal. Yes, they may have to cut prices to stay competitive, but not shut up shop entirely. The "organic" and " natural" craze has been setting in for a whole now and people already pay premium prices for those products. I think synthetic meat would simply be viewed as a cheaper alternative, but not a complete replacement.

 

[SD-Fiend]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16972761

Out of interest, what do you think about our artificial-meat future? I think it's a pretty good idea, all things considered. Mainly because of the huge volumes of greenhouse gases that raising large numbers of animals creates.

Also interested as to what the vegetarians think? would you eat lab-meat or not?

nope. Bad idea, farmers loose jobs, cancer may be a side effect, might taste like shit, may be too expensive, and who knows what else.

Sorry but i like my meat like i like my life....real.

Who cares if farmers lose jobs? If their job isn't needed, why artificially create a need? If I decided to go around in a coach with horses letting people hire me to give them lifts, should people stop making cars to save my job?

As for cancer, tasting like shit, being too expensive, those are nonsense excuses. They're all potential reasons, but you can't know if those are going to happen. That's why you test it out.

well for one thing the farmers their families and the people that work in that industry would care if they lose their jobs. and for your example people still do ride in coaches

Yes, they would care. It's a rhetorical question, not a real one. My point is that we shouldn't stop from making them obsolete just for the sake of giving them a job. That's silly favoritism.

And as for my example, farmers will still exist so that works. It's just become an incredibly small market.

it doesn't matter if it's favoritism or not hundreds of people would lose their jobs. and why should we allow for them to lose their jobs anyways? what will they do then?

Here's a wild and crazy idea:

They could...





FIND A NEW JOB!

because it's always so easy to get a job. all you have to do is walk in and ask for a job! you don't have to go to college for 2-4 years to get a high paying job either! and so what if someone else gets it instead of you? just go and ask for another one somewhere else! I can't believe that there are so many jobless people out there they're just being lazy.

Yeah, so instead of rolling up your sleeves and getting started with the hard work, just whine about it and fight tooth and nail to keep our society in the dark ages so you they can keep their paycheck.

Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and it's beyond time for progress, just like in the oil industry. I'm sorry some people, hell, even a lot of people, will loose money/jobs. Life is harsh like that.

well look I'm just going to say that taking jobs from people is a bad thing I know life is harsh but you can't just tell people to deal with as they descend into poverty but we may as well stop here since I'm terrible at making aguments

 

[Eve Charm]

I think you need both farmers and synthetic till people aren't friggen starving to death. God this debate between you two is like the government. bicker over not maybe hurting one system or market back and forth instead of letting a new one being created and helping out everyone else, like the starving people.

 

[Redweaver]

well look I'm just going to say that taking jobs from people is a bad thing I know life is harsh but you can't just tell people to deal with as they descend into poverty but we may as well stop here since I'm terrible at making aguments

I'm not for throwing anyone to the wolves, but some people are in a "prison" totally of their own making. It is posible to retrain and find a new job. Difficult, yes, but that's no excuse.

It's that inertia that's weighing us all down.

It's why we still burn fossil fuels. It's why we haven't gone back to the moon. It's why stone age superstitions are still with us. It's why a (half-)black POTUS is a big deal.

We, collectively, as a society and a species need to start growing the hell up.

 

[SD-Fiend]

well look I'm just going to say that taking jobs from people is a bad thing I know life is harsh but you can't just tell people to deal with as they descend into poverty but we may as well stop here since I'm terrible at making aguments

I'm not for throwing anyone to the wolves, but some people are in a "prison" totally of their own making. It is posible to retrain and find a new job. Difficult, yes, but that's no excuse.

It's that inertia that's weighing us all down.

It's why we still burn fossil fuels. It's why we haven't gone back to the moon. It's why stone age superstitions are still with us. It's why a (half-)black POTUS is a big deal.

We, collectively, as a society and a species need to start growing the hell up.

well us arguing over it isn't helping anything

 

[Fatboy_41]

Yes, it does. Why should those people get jobs for something we don't need them for? If we can do it in a cheaper fashion, why should we do it the hard way and pay more of our money for their less efficient ways? Why shouldn't we allow them to lose their jobs if we don't need their job? They can go and learn to do something that we do need. Just like everyone else in the world.

You use the word "need" there quite a bit...

Anyway, if we've misunderstood eachother, shit happens. I'm not going to lose sleep over it and I doubt you will either.

 

[luke10123]

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So long as they emulate the taste and texture of meat perfectly (this has yet to happen), I wouldn't mind changing to synthetic meat.

The only remaining question would be, what would we end up using livestock for?

we wouldn't, there wouldn't be any need for the mass breeding of live stock anymore. It'd still be there for the premium market but the point is it has the potential to significantly reduce our greenhouse gas emissions.

 

[FamoFunk]

At the moment, I don't like the idea of it. It's enough to turn me Vegetarian if it came into force say, next year.

But in many, many years and research and development... no, sod it, I still wouldn't eat it.

 

[Griffolion]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16972761

Out of interest, what do you think about our artificial-meat future? I think it's a pretty good idea, all things considered. Mainly because of the huge volumes of greenhouse gases that raising large numbers of animals creates.

Also interested as to what the vegetarians think? would you eat lab-meat or not?

I understand where his reasoning is coming from and it's actually a good idea he's onto. I'd be okay with synthetic meat, especially for the applications he's talking about (fast food, etc) because let's face it, fast food meat is barely meat to begin with...

 

[manic_depressive13]

I am a vegetarian and I would gladly eat lab grown meat. I don't even give a shit what it tastes like. I'll just be happy for a convenient source of protein and various vitamins without the slaughter and suffering.

 

[omega 616]

Oh, good. More of the real stuff for me. I suppose I'll eat it if only you don't mess with the genes. Authentic cow seems to be the winning formula, and I don't trust humanity's current level of genetic knowledge to go and eat any of their experimental stuff without further research.

Are you serious? "Authentic cow"? You mean them cows that have been genetically bred? The ones who's fathers and mothers were selected for breeding to produce the best cows for consumption? Them "Authentic cow's"?

Oh, you mean the ones that were genetically modded outside of a lab? Oh okay then.

To be honest, with what I have just said, I am all for it. If it's identical to "the real deal" then why snub it?