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Theo Samaritan

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Eclectic Dreck said:
You had a tutorial when you started O_O lucky bugger...
MiloP said:
Found him, and found the last tutorial mission (in a place beginning with an H). Plus I upgraded my gun. So I can tear apart most things now.

THE FUN HAS BEGUN.
I know where you are, so you may see me local occasionally.
 

Mrsoupcup

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I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
 

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
EVE is a WoW rip off? You do know what WoW is right?
 

NDWolfwood5268

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MiloP said:
Right, so I'm beginning to have fun and see the good points of EVE. My only criticism thus far is the wall-like difficulty curve - hell, the first few missions outside of the tutorial are just too hard for a starting ship. Like WoW, the game should probably tell you whether a certain mission is gonna send tits skyward.

But I'm steadily mining, the money is steadily coming in. Is it weird that after purifying the ore I find I get something worth LESS?
Oi, FYI, if you join a corp, it gets much better. You can do the tutorial agents too, but Player Run corporations are not all spreadsheets as Yahtzee said, they're social and helpful. I, for one, as an officer in my help new players all the time. We advertise it. I got a guy into the group last month, brand new, and now he's teaching me some things about industry, as I prefer to shoot things lol.

If you need a tip, I'm Viktor Jkhorvschki, but the help channels should work too. Enjoy.
 

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Vlane said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
EVE is a WoW rip off? You do know what WoW is right?
yes Wow is medieval and EVE is in space, BUT both games consist of click on enemie and wait for it to die, with boring repetitive quests, the only real diffence with Eve is you can go to sleep and lv up your skills, so really the big diffenrence with EVE on WoW is Wow sucks your soul out and EvE sucks a little bit out but is less entertaining and full of space nerds instead of elf nerds.
 

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
Vlane said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
EVE is a WoW rip off? You do know what WoW is right?
yes Wow is medieval and EVE is in space, BUT both games consist of click on enemie and wait for it to die, with boring repetitive quests, the only real diffence with Eve is you can go to sleep and lv up your skills, so really the big diffenrence with EVE on WoW is Wow sucks your soul out and EvE sucks a little bit out but is less entertaining and full of space nerds instead of elf nerds.
I think you're referencing ZP too much, EVE has no intention of being WoW, and there's a much larger emphasis on planning in EVE. EVE is slower, less mainstream, harder, and much more open world. WoW is a question of time. You can get all the best gear, and don't even have to fight other players. In EVE, you can get the best ship, and other players can come and destroy it. You are constantly FORCED to compete with other players and fear their wrath.

That is why they are different and why WoW is more popular, it's easy, and nothing wrong with that.
 

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Abedeus said:
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Abedeus said:
TR ends in a month. Exactly a month, I think it's till February 28th.

If you want my opinion, watch ZP: Eve Online. It illustrates my point very well.

Although if you want to get rich, then make a run for it and still millions of virtual money, go ahead.
Yeah but Yahtzee bashes everything he reviews. As it is hilarious you cant really go on his opinion. Better to find out for yourself.
Psychonauts, Painkiller, Fallout 3, Saint's Row 2 and few other.

He's not bashing EVERYTHING.
Keeping in mind he gives the games HE likes good marks. Remember these are his opinions and his alone, different people have different experiences with games, he rants about his.

Back on topic. EVE, I play it have been doing for 8 months now, it's fun and educational (I won't have to take business studies for A-level, yay). I love it, but it's not for you if you want easy play, if you get blown up or podded you can't reload it. Otherwise have fun and fly safe.
 

Mrsoupcup

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NDWolfwood5268 said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
Vlane said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
EVE is a WoW rip off? You do know what WoW is right?
yes Wow is medieval and EVE is in space, BUT both games consist of click on enemie and wait for it to die, with boring repetitive quests, the only real diffence with Eve is you can go to sleep and lv up your skills, so really the big diffenrence with EVE on WoW is Wow sucks your soul out and EvE sucks a little bit out but is less entertaining and full of space nerds instead of elf nerds.
I think you're referencing ZP too much, EVE has no intention of being WoW, and there's a much larger emphasis on planning in EVE. EVE is slower, less mainstream, harder, and much more open world. WoW is a question of time. You can get all the best gear, and don't even have to fight other players. In EVE, you can get the best ship, and other players can come and destroy it. You are constantly FORCED to compete with other players and fear their wrath.

That is why they are different and why WoW is more popular, it's easy, and nothing wrong with that.
Saying WoW is easy is like saying Mc Donalds is healthy, and I haven't seen the Zp EVE review yet I'm not saying WoW is bad I'm saying its boring (basiclly it can suck my balls of steel)
 

Vlane

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
NDWolfwood5268 said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
Vlane said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
EVE is a WoW rip off? You do know what WoW is right?
yes Wow is medieval and EVE is in space, BUT both games consist of click on enemie and wait for it to die, with boring repetitive quests, the only real diffence with Eve is you can go to sleep and lv up your skills, so really the big diffenrence with EVE on WoW is Wow sucks your soul out and EvE sucks a little bit out but is less entertaining and full of space nerds instead of elf nerds.
I think you're referencing ZP too much, EVE has no intention of being WoW, and there's a much larger emphasis on planning in EVE. EVE is slower, less mainstream, harder, and much more open world. WoW is a question of time. You can get all the best gear, and don't even have to fight other players. In EVE, you can get the best ship, and other players can come and destroy it. You are constantly FORCED to compete with other players and fear their wrath.

That is why they are different and why WoW is more popular, it's easy, and nothing wrong with that.
Saying WoW is easy is like saying Mc Donalds is healthy, and I haven't seen the Zp EVE review yet I'm not saying WoW is bad I'm saying its boring (basiclly it can suck my balls of steel)
WoW is an easy game (many of my friends who play the game said that) and Mc Donalds can be healthy.
 

NDWolfwood5268

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
NDWolfwood5268 said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
Vlane said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
EVE is a WoW rip off? You do know what WoW is right?
yes Wow is medieval and EVE is in space, BUT both games consist of click on enemie and wait for it to die, with boring repetitive quests, the only real diffence with Eve is you can go to sleep and lv up your skills, so really the big diffenrence with EVE on WoW is Wow sucks your soul out and EvE sucks a little bit out but is less entertaining and full of space nerds instead of elf nerds.
I think you're referencing ZP too much, EVE has no intention of being WoW, and there's a much larger emphasis on planning in EVE. EVE is slower, less mainstream, harder, and much more open world. WoW is a question of time. You can get all the best gear, and don't even have to fight other players. In EVE, you can get the best ship, and other players can come and destroy it. You are constantly FORCED to compete with other players and fear their wrath.

That is why they are different and why WoW is more popular, it's easy, and nothing wrong with that.
Saying WoW is easy is like saying Mc Donalds is healthy, and I haven't seen the Zp EVE review yet I'm not saying WoW is bad I'm saying its boring (basiclly it can suck my balls of steel)
Well, MMO's are a genre of game that not everyone likes, so yeah I can see what you mean. I find WoW boring now that I've played it for so long and realized it has a ceiling. EVE tends to be worse on the general populace, which is why it's not mainstream, but I like it so...

But the WoW comment... You find it hard? Can you elaborate? I played a lock for 4 years and could fall asleep raiding. I once hopped on my friends healer to help out and, never playing it before, managed to heal the 10 man using only 3 buttons... got nice heals on the charts too, so if WoW is hard, then I AM GOD!
 

Consistence

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Eve can only be described as amazing, joing a corpartation, or alliance, you really feel as if your apart of something that has a direct effect on the whole world, and it does, no guilds in any other MMO can give you this feeling
 

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NDWolfwood5268 said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
NDWolfwood5268 said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
Vlane said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
I've played them both and they both fucking suck. WOW rip off and I think WOW sucks.
EVE is a WoW rip off? You do know what WoW is right?
yes Wow is medieval and EVE is in space, BUT both games consist of click on enemie and wait for it to die, with boring repetitive quests, the only real diffence with Eve is you can go to sleep and lv up your skills, so really the big diffenrence with EVE on WoW is Wow sucks your soul out and EvE sucks a little bit out but is less entertaining and full of space nerds instead of elf nerds.
I think you're referencing ZP too much, EVE has no intention of being WoW, and there's a much larger emphasis on planning in EVE. EVE is slower, less mainstream, harder, and much more open world. WoW is a question of time. You can get all the best gear, and don't even have to fight other players. In EVE, you can get the best ship, and other players can come and destroy it. You are constantly FORCED to compete with other players and fear their wrath.

That is why they are different and why WoW is more popular, it's easy, and nothing wrong with that.
Saying WoW is easy is like saying Mc Donalds is healthy, and I haven't seen the Zp EVE review yet I'm not saying WoW is bad I'm saying its boring (basiclly it can suck my balls of steel)
Well, MMO's are a genre of game that not everyone likes, so yeah I can see what you mean. I find WoW boring now that I've played it for so long and realized it has a ceiling. EVE tends to be worse on the general populace, which is why it's not mainstream, but I like it so...

But the WoW comment... You find it hard? Can you elaborate? I played a lock for 4 years and could fall asleep raiding. I once hopped on my friends healer to help out and, never playing it before, managed to heal the 10 man using only 3 buttons... got nice heals on the charts too, so if WoW is hard, then I AM GOD!
Its not hard just fucking time consuming an exapmle is the achievments in mass effect i have most of them and the rest aren't hard I just don't have the fucking time.
 

tehbeard

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EVE appeals to those who are bored of mainstream fantasy hack-n-slash deals like WoW.
I played EVE for several months (Gave up to Knuckle down on GCSE's and now AS).
It can be a very fun game, I flet it has a much tighter community then say WoW as you as previosuly stated, hunting/being hunted by other players and corps.

Take the main example I have from my experiance.

I joined EVE, signed up to a corp, we then got a contract with one of alliances (Groups of Player corps) to do some mining in 0 sec (the lawless side of space). Atfer a few weeks we got ganked by a rival corp of our employer. Quite a bit of kit was lost in the process. We were told not to worry as our employer would sort it out. Couple of months past, and we did feel kinda sore about it.

Then one day as we log we have a representative of our employer warp in, tell us to grab our best cargo ships and head to a certain system. Within half an hour we were headed to the rival corps space with about 2 dozen combat ships and a freighter.

What it turned out was that my corp had been used as a honey trap to help our employers spy infiltrate their corp to the point were he had hanger access. We made off with every single item in the hanger. Modules, loot, minerals, BPOs. All of it was packaged under escrow to us to be delivered to a station in our space. Our corp came back a second time to nab the corp hanger ships.

Then on the way back we passed the rival corp.

This spooked us a little but they didn't bat an eyelid.
Our CEO was later told the figure for the raid was around a billion isk, and we got our compensation.

Once the contract expired we stayed in that space, selling minerals to them and performing trade runs between their stations, which benefitted both of us.

There was a problem, the region we were in began to become unstable, lots of fights breaking out. Skrimishes by rival corps. When we learned that attacks were being planned to purge the region within the week, and with the knowledge we were in no shape to fight, we decided to bug out and run for empire space. We packed up everything the corp owned and began shipping it to empire space. This ALMOST went flawlessly, but we got jumped on the last run by a corp, and ended up having to run further from empire, into enemy territory, and back out.
We settled down to running hi level missions to gain some capital, then i quit so as to dedicate more time to study.

So yes it can be a fun game but two things are required:
- Patience
- and joining a player corp.

It is a different kettle of fish to WoW, for starters it is difficult, there are consequences for the tiniest mistake (as the rival corp found out, not locking their blueprints in the hanger) and it defys all meausres of scale. in my six months playing I visited mabye 100-200 of the 5000+ systems. From what I've heard theres soon to be more in the new free expansion pack.

I hope you either enjoy or are indifferent about it. Hate should be reserved for idiots.

And on the subject of game bashing, I view ZP not as the charismatic stallion of the interwebs he once was, but as the crazy guy who sits on the bus claiming he invented tuppaware. Yes its funny to watch but you know deep down he needs help as he is suffering Sonic the hedgehog syndrome, (See ZP: Sonic unleashed and you should get the idea).
 

DRsideburns

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There's a little known game that not very many people have heard of called World of Warcraft. You might want to give that a go if you're looking for MMOs.
 

MiloP

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What's good is that I'm playing now as I'm at school. My electornics is training up as we speak. Mha.
 

Tili

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I tried EVE about 4 years ago. And I couldn't continue to play cause I didn't have a credit card. Lets see how much it changed :)