Take-Two CEO: "Exclusivity Does Work"

[gsf1200]

He's full of crap! How does ignoring 30 million potential customers benefit the company? The only way exclusivity helps is if sony gives them a bucketful of money. Which is what happened, so now he can't talk crap about sony.

 

[Sixties Spidey]

You sir, are full of shit. Exclusivity is stupid anyway, because the price of creating something that's a system seller is how many units it will sell.

If exclusivity works, why is Fallout 3's DLC going to the PS3?!

That makes his whole argument bullshit.

 

[shMerker]

GameStop != GameSpot

D'oh. I always do that.

I swear, one of these days I'm going to start a site and call it Gamepots.

Where dyslexics can sigh, tell, and braid games.

Sadly the gamepots.com domain is already taken.

 

[Jumplion]

Besides, Vice City had the coolest environment in a game ever, I could just cruise around Vice City for hours doing nothing but watching people every now and then. It also had, for the most part, really fun missions.

Ooo Em Eff Gee, I JUST NOW realized the pun in Vice City!!! I have no idea how I did not realize that before...

condense

Wait, so playing GTA4 on 360 will be radically different on the PS3 with the differences being different graphics optimization, controllers, and some online stuff? I don't understand what you're saying , how can the same game be radically different on another system when they're optimized to try and be near exactly the same?

And what you said about PS3 having Heavy Rain and Arkam Asylum Joker exclusivity more or less proves what exclusives are supposed to do; make the person buy the hardware. While you personally may not want to buy a PS3 just for those 2 games, it's the collection of exclusives that make a purchase. Look up sales of FF7 or MGS1 or just MGS4 and look up the relative sales compared to how many PS1/PS3s were sold at that time during the release. You cannot possibly tell me that those exclusives didn't help out the console in at least a little way.

Personally I do think that exclusives help competition. After all, with executives talking [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90352-Microsoft-Rep-Slams-PS3-and-Killzone-2] smack [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90937-Sony-Calls-Out-Microsoft-Over-First-Party-Development] to each other and wanting to beat the balls out of the competition, having none of that would mean no dickwaving for our amusement, no games being optimized for one system, no reason to buy one console over the other, and no real improvement on anything because if Microsoft isn't motivated to get the 360 to have graphics better than Killzone 2 then why would they both anything else?

You sir, are full of shit. Exclusivity is stupid anyway, because the price of creating something that's a system seller is how many units it will sell.

If exclusivity works, why is Fallout 3's DLC going to the PS3?!

That makes his whole argument bullshit.

Because Microsoft probably only paid for a timed exclusive? Though the DLC isn't out on PS3 just yet, so it won't be that accurate, look up sales of the DLC on 360 and compare that to Fallout 3s for 360. And once again, look at exclusives like FF7, MGS1, GTA: San Andreas, or MGS4, please tell me how it's possible to deny that those exclusives didn't do what they were supposed to do; sell systems.

I don't get this hate for exclusives really, the only reason why I could understand is because people are cheap, money scrunching, bastards that don't want to pay extra for anything (especially giving this economy), and while that is expected of a lot of people nowadays (again, with the economy n' all) it's either put up or shut up.

EDIT: Condensed stuff and added some extra sentences of opinion.

 

[Zac_Dai]

Spoiler: intelligence

Besides, Vice City had the coolest environment in a game ever, I could just cruise around Vice City for hours doing nothing but watching people every now and then. It also had, for the most part, really fun missions.

Ooo Em Eff Gee, I JUST NOW realized the pun in Vice City!!! I have no idea how I did not realize that before...

condense

Wait, so playing GTA4 on 360 will be radically different on the PS3 with the differences being different graphics optimization, controllers, and some online stuff? I don't understand what you're saying , how can the same game be radically different on another system when they're optimized to try and be near exactly the same?

And what you said about PS3 having Heavy Rain and Arkam Asylum Joker exclusivity more or less proves what exclusives are supposed to do; make the person buy the hardware. While you personally may not want to buy a PS3 just for those 2 games, it's the collection of exclusives that make a purchase. Look up sales of FF7 or MGS1 or just MGS4 and look up the relative sales compared to how many PS1/PS3s were sold at that time during the release. You cannot possibly tell me that those exclusives didn't help out the console in at least a little way.

Personally I do think that exclusives help competition. After all, with executives talking [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90352-Microsoft-Rep-Slams-PS3-and-Killzone-2] smack [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90937-Sony-Calls-Out-Microsoft-Over-First-Party-Development] to each other and wanting to beat the balls out of the competition, having none of that would mean no dickwaving for our amusement, no games being optimized for one system, no reason to buy one console over the other, and no real improvement on anything because if Microsoft isn't motivated to get the 360 to have graphics better than Killzone 2 then why would they both anything else?

You sir, are full of shit. Exclusivity is stupid anyway, because the price of creating something that's a system seller is how many units it will sell.

If exclusivity works, why is Fallout 3's DLC going to the PS3?!

That makes his whole argument bullshit.

Because Microsoft probably only paid for a timed exclusive? Though the DLC isn't out on PS3 just yet, so it won't be that accurate, look up sales of the DLC on 360 and compare that to Fallout 3s for 360. And once again, look at exclusives like FF7, MGS1, GTA: San Andreas, or MGS4, please tell me how it's possible to deny that those exclusives didn't do what they were supposed to do; sell systems.

I don't get this hate for exclusives really, the only reason why I could understand is because people are cheap, money scrunching, bastards that don't want to pay extra for anything (especially giving this economy), and while that is expected of a lot of people nowadays (again, with the economy n' all) it's either put up or shut up.

EDIT: Condensed stuff and added some extra sentences of opinion.

Very true. People just don't get why exclusives are important. Besides it also gives the fanboys something to ***** about lol.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

To make matters worse, the PS3 is in last place worldwide by a fairly healthy margin, trailing competitor Microsoft by 22 million units sold to 30 million Xbox 360s - especially in the West, the traditional market for GTA style games.

that's over all sales, mostly coming from north america, in Japan and even Europe the 360 isn't selling as well. except for one or two odd weeks, 1 week of ps3 sales is a month of 360 sales. also those stats are considering the year head start the 360 had and the gap is getting smaller

the thing about exclusives is there are certain things one of the consoles can't do

Yes, but where do GTA games traditionally sell the strongest? North America.

Also, sources on the "1 week of PS3 sales is a month of 360 sales"? Because IIRC, NPD numbers consistently show the PS3 behind the 360 on a month to month basis.

Kotaku posts the sales in Japan every week
http://kotaku.com/tag/the-japanese-hardware-chart/
if you want to quickly browse the red is the ps3 and the green is the 360

so i'd say those npd results are a bit off, especially for japan, also if i remember even from this site, there's good proof the ps3 is actually outselling the 360 when compared from date of release, ie more ps3s sold in the same amount of time

 

[John Funk]

To make matters worse, the PS3 is in last place worldwide by a fairly healthy margin, trailing competitor Microsoft by 22 million units sold to 30 million Xbox 360s - especially in the West, the traditional market for GTA style games.

that's over all sales, mostly coming from north america, in Japan and even Europe the 360 isn't selling as well. except for one or two odd weeks, 1 week of ps3 sales is a month of 360 sales. also those stats are considering the year head start the 360 had and the gap is getting smaller

the thing about exclusives is there are certain things one of the consoles can't do

Yes, but where do GTA games traditionally sell the strongest? North America.

Also, sources on the "1 week of PS3 sales is a month of 360 sales"? Because IIRC, NPD numbers consistently show the PS3 behind the 360 on a month to month basis.

Kotaku posts the sales in Japan every week
http://kotaku.com/tag/the-japanese-hardware-chart/
if you want to quickly browse the red is the ps3 and the green is the 360

so i'd say those npd results are a bit off, especially for japan, also if i remember even from this site, there's good proof the ps3 is actually outselling the 360 when compared from date of release, ie more ps3s sold in the same amount of time

Oh, you're talking Japan. That doesn't count, then I'm talking worldwide. Japan is actually a fairly small market in comparison to North America or Europe.

 

[AceDiamond]

Take-Two has some sort of weird passive-agressive stance when it comes to exclusivity it seems. So GTA IV can be multiplatform, the games in the GTA III-verse can be multiplatform, but oooohhhh no, not Agent, which pretty much sounds like at least 2 or 3 other games already out or in development. I say that because I don't know much else beyond it other than "espionage game set in the 1970s"

 

[John Funk]

To make matters worse, the PS3 is in last place worldwide by a fairly healthy margin, trailing competitor Microsoft by 22 million units sold to 30 million Xbox 360s - especially in the West, the traditional market for GTA style games.

that's over all sales, mostly coming from north america, in Japan and even Europe the 360 isn't selling as well. except for one or two odd weeks, 1 week of ps3 sales is a month of 360 sales. also those stats are considering the year head start the 360 had and the gap is getting smaller

the thing about exclusives is there are certain things one of the consoles can't do

Yes, but where do GTA games traditionally sell the strongest? North America.

Also, sources on the "1 week of PS3 sales is a month of 360 sales"? Because IIRC, NPD numbers consistently show the PS3 behind the 360 on a month to month basis.

But this isn't a GTA game, is it? Sandbox gameplay is a universal thing - hell, GTA IV crashes and burns in Japan, but Ryu Gu Gotaku 3 lit up the charts. And Connery Bond isn't exactly a solely American thing.

Ryu Gu Gotaku 3 is a Japanese game.

Agent is a Western game.

Japanese gamers traditionally do not play Western games, GTA or no. If Agent were being developed by, say, Konami instead of R* North, you might have a point. But I can't see it doing anything more than average sales at best in Japan.

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

"At this phase in the cycle, when you're trying to launch a new franchise, exclusivity can really help you launch the franchise. It can give you the kind of platform that you need to start exclusive, start in the right kind of way with the right kind of partner. Exclusivity does work."

Oh my, I think he's right. So many games start off as exclusive first, and then either the sequels or the remakes/ports go multiplat.

 

[scotth266]

The only Rockstar game that I liked in recent memory was Bully. So I find myself in a distinct state of apathy.

I don't like exclusives for the sole fact that they seem to make fanboys like a arsonist makes fires. And fanboys are bad. Like fires.

 

[scotth266]

The only Rockstar game that I liked in recent memory was Bully. So I find myself in a distinct state of apathy.

....which version did you play?

Scholarship Edition for the 360.

 

[scotth266]

The only Rockstar game that I liked in recent memory was Bully. So I find myself in a distinct state of apathy.

....which version did you play?

Scholarship Edition for the 360.

...how recent a memory are we talking?

That was the point.