If you're going to get hit in the head, you might as well make it the strongest part of your skull so you can withstand it best.
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I'd say I'd rather take a punch to the foot than the top of my head. Jes' sayin'.SomeLameStuff said:
The knock out thing is about how much your head moves on your neck, the moving you head to meet the punch is about being able to brace you neck and keep the head as still as possible, it won't hurt any less but it might disorientate you less, high curve areas will distribute the force better, hence the use of the curve of the forehead.
You really don't want to get hit in the head if you can avoid it though.
You really don't want to get hit in the head if you can avoid it though.
First off, a punch in to the head is not a knock out. I've had a few and I still stood.
Second, if you headbutt a fist thrown at you, if you hit with the thickest part of your forehead, you will shatter most of the bones in the hand of whoever punched. This however require you to hit it quite precise.
Third, if a punch to the head is to knock someone out, aim for the chin as the rotation and sudden stop of the head will make the brain spin just a little more than the head and cause it slam against the inside of the skull causing a short blackout or potential faint.
But seriously, don't get in a fight in the first place. Avoid it if possible.
Second, if you headbutt a fist thrown at you, if you hit with the thickest part of your forehead, you will shatter most of the bones in the hand of whoever punched. This however require you to hit it quite precise.
Third, if a punch to the head is to knock someone out, aim for the chin as the rotation and sudden stop of the head will make the brain spin just a little more than the head and cause it slam against the inside of the skull causing a short blackout or potential faint.
But seriously, don't get in a fight in the first place. Avoid it if possible.
Absorption is the least effective way to deal with energy. Redirection is a much better way of dealing with energy, in this instance, a punch.
Not really the best idea. Maybe if its just one punch, but in a fight? Getting your foot hit could slow you down and leave you open to more hits.Amethyst Wind said:
It would probably be best for you to pretend you never read about this. This is the kind of information that is less than worthless for you to know. You could get seriously hurt. You might end up in a fight of some kind. At some point during you'll remember, "Oh yeah! Block with your head!" You'll wake up some time after having the crap beaten out of you and realize it's really hard to line up a fist with the sweet spot on your crown.
Most people need to accept that they'll never be good at fighting. And that's great. Read up on conflict management and running away instead.
Most people need to accept that they'll never be good at fighting. And that's great. Read up on conflict management and running away instead.
Front of the skull is the thickest in terms of bone density, and thus better at blocking impacts. Still hurts like hell though.
On a side note still related to the title. In a bout of feeling uber-manly when I was about 16 I asked someone to hit me in the stomach as hard as they could, convinced I could take it like Houdini.
I don't quite remember what happened, all I know is that the next thing I knew I was looking at the sky struggling for breath and feeling nothing below my chest.
On a side note still related to the title. In a bout of feeling uber-manly when I was about 16 I asked someone to hit me in the stomach as hard as they could, convinced I could take it like Houdini.
I don't quite remember what happened, all I know is that the next thing I knew I was looking at the sky struggling for breath and feeling nothing below my chest.
Disclaimer: I haven't been in a "real" fight since high school, thank dog, but I'm quite into BJJ and occasionally do some cross training with some MMA buddies.
As others have said, what you're suggesting is risky, but it's a whole lot better than getting punched in the jaw or the nose (which will basically put you out, no matter how tough you are). However, you shouldn't be in that situation anyway. Don't get in a fight if possible at all, obviously, and if it isn't avoidable, keep your hands up, hit harder and faster than the other dude, go for a takedown.
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As others have said, what you're suggesting is risky, but it's a whole lot better than getting punched in the jaw or the nose (which will basically put you out, no matter how tough you are). However, you shouldn't be in that situation anyway. Don't get in a fight if possible at all, obviously, and if it isn't avoidable, keep your hands up, hit harder and faster than the other dude, go for a takedown.
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Even though I've been in a total of 10 fights No one has ever actually punched me so I don't know where exactly hurts more. I always thought the part to hit was the nose.
I'd imagine it works on a similar principle to heading a football - trying to hit it with the front top part of your head simply because this is the thickest, safest part to hit.
Not quite bullshit - getting hit on the forehead is far from an instant K-O; I've been kneed in the forehead while being thrown to the floor (Jiu Jitsu) and was back on my feet immediately afterwards.Booze Zombie said:
The only way you can get knocked out by being punched in the head in one is taking a roundhouse shot to the jaw or the temple. When they take a stance, a lot of boxers bring up their lead shoulder to defend the jaw, and use their hands to fend off other strikes. You -can- take multiple strikes to the face, and certainly to the forehead, but that doesn't mean it don't hurt
Make sure you keep your jaw clenched and breath out when you throw/take a punch and that'll help.
And on the other martial artists' point about a double-punch to the chest... While Zinedine Zidane can cause a fair amount of damage to the chest with a headbutt, in you're inside their guard you're much better off going for something which isn't protected by a lattice of bones, such as the throat or solar plexus.
I've heard that getting hit in the skull (not the brittle jaw or nosebone) isn't -that- bad, but your brain is sensitive to being rattled (Mythbusters did a very good demonstration of what happens when hits impact your head- look it up on youtube). Of course, Don't get hit.
Yeah, a lot of literature I've been looking at focuses on not taking knocks to the jaw bone or side of the head and I can get why. I just wouldn't have though the optimal spot for a knock would've been my forehead, really.Samnite said:Not quite bullshit - getting hit on the forehead is far from an instant K-O; I've been kneed in the forehead while being thrown to the floor (Jiu Jitsu) and was back on my feet immediately afterwards.
The only way you can get knocked out by being punched in the head in one is taking a roundhouse shot to the jaw or the temple. When they take a stance, a lot of boxers bring up their lead shoulder to defend the jaw, and use their hands to fend off other strikes. You -can- take multiple strikes to the face, and certainly to the forehead, but that doesn't mean it don't hurt
And on the other martial artists' point about a double-punch to the chest... While Zinedine Zidane can cause a fair amount of damage to the chest with a headbutt, in you're inside their guard you're much better off going for something which isn't protected by a lattice of bones, such as the throat or solar plexus.
I didn't think it'd be painless either, but I was hoping with it being a strong-point it'd hurt less than taking a hit to, say, an eye.
Just gotta keep it all in perspective... even when your face is being hit.
Threads like this always brings out a handful of tuff guys who bring up their 2-3 highschool or kindergarden fights as experience material.
To give you a simple answer, yes, the forehead.
Not the top of the head, it's surprisingly soft.
A punch to the forehead is rather unlikely to knock you out, and also there is a good chance they might break their hand or damage it on your forehead.
Also, as someone else said, you may cut easily on the forehead, but better than getting knocked out and raped, right?
I'm pretty sure that martial artist guy you watched was complete bs though, who really teaches to eat bare knuckle punches? If you can react to a punch in time to think "Oh, I can't block, I better headbutt his punch" I'm pretty sure you could just as well try to dodge or block it with your forearms or something.
^ Samnite, while it's the most common it's certainly not the only way.
To give you a simple answer, yes, the forehead.
Not the top of the head, it's surprisingly soft.
A punch to the forehead is rather unlikely to knock you out, and also there is a good chance they might break their hand or damage it on your forehead.
Also, as someone else said, you may cut easily on the forehead, but better than getting knocked out and raped, right?
I'm pretty sure that martial artist guy you watched was complete bs though, who really teaches to eat bare knuckle punches? If you can react to a punch in time to think "Oh, I can't block, I better headbutt his punch" I'm pretty sure you could just as well try to dodge or block it with your forearms or something.
^ Samnite, while it's the most common it's certainly not the only way.
And you'd be right in that belief. Although if you want to know about fighting, I'd say train in a martial art over read a book or watch youtube videosBooze Zombie said:
Udyrfrykte - True enough, but it's certainly the easiest way to do so with one strike.
Totally agree on that. I think everyone should have experienced a point in their lives to "fight" in safe conditions, and if it interests you then there is no discussion really. Sign up for a class of some sort.Samnite said:Although if you want to know about fighting, I'd say train in a martial art over read a book or watch youtube videos