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Segadroid

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Instead of negotiating, people/goverments/nations rather fire their guns to show others they're not just somebody. This mostly leads to bloodshed, though some people deem it neccessary to keep control.
Tell me, what is your opinion about letting guns do the talking? Unfair? Not worth the effort? Or is it unavoidable these days?
 

grimsprice

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since when can you diplomatically come to an agreement with raging psychopaths like terrorists and Hitler?

Diplomacy only works if the other person is sane enough to compromise.
 

HardRockSamurai

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Well, seeing as we live in a society where "talking" is done at the press of a button, and where our "guns" have a 250 ton nuclear payload...

"Do you think we should let the guns do the talking?"

Hell. No.
 

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I think it's unfortunate, but it's also human nature. Man's proven time and again that it can't stand to be at peace with itself for long. I wish that weren't the case, but there's not a whole lot I can do about it other than vote for the less-evil dude, so I try not to dwell.

Honestly, I'm just glad I live in a country without a draft. At least I can leave the senseless fighting to the brave and foolhardy.
 

SonicKoala

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Guns are necessary sometimes, and they're just so much more fun than talking - if people didn't use guns to negotiate, we basically wouldn't have the FPS genre.... think about that!
 

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The problem with words is that it can be twisted and manipulated and when the pen is mightier than the sword, it pays to have a gun close by. Just in case someone tries to bend your words.
 

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SonicKoala said:
Guns are necessary sometimes, and they're just so much more fun than talking - if people didn't use guns to negotiate, we basically wouldn't have the FPS genre.... think about that!
"they're just so much more fun than talking"?

I rather have a simple negotiation without guns IRL rather than lying on the floor with a bullet in my head. IRL.
I know what you mean, though. Shooting at eachother online is fun, but never forget that it's just a game. You cannot compare it to real life shooting.
 

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Skarin said:
The problem with words is that it can be twisted and manipulated and when the pen is mightier than the sword, it pays to have a gun close by. Just in case someone tries to bend your words.
The pen only seems like a mightier weapon because when you start using it, the only people around are wimpy scholars. They're easier to kill with pens than vikings are with swords.

Hence, the phrase.
 

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grimsprice said:
since when can you diplomatically come to an agreement with raging psychopaths like terrorists and Hitler?

Diplomacy only works if the other person is sane enough to compromise.
Godwin's at first post. Good work people, keep it up.
 

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Samurai Goomba said:
Skarin said:
The problem with words is that it can be twisted and manipulated and when the pen is mightier than the sword, it pays to have a gun close by. Just in case someone tries to bend your words.
The pen only seems like a mightier weapon because when you start using it, the only people around are wimpy scholars. They're easier to kill with pens than vikings are with swords.

Hence, the phrase.
Not saying that your average politician is a scholar or a viking but I am sure they can do quite a lot of damage with a pen. Like signing an order for a nuclear strike.

If you had a gun, you could shoot the guy with a pen before he could order a nuclear strike.

Hence, my phrase!.
 

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Cxizent said:
grimsprice said:
since when can you diplomatically come to an agreement with raging psychopaths like terrorists and Hitler?

Diplomacy only works if the other person is sane enough to compromise.
Godwin's at first post. Good work people, keep it up.
[HEADING=1]DAMN IT![/HEADING]
 

SonicKoala

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Segadroid said:
SonicKoala said:
Guns are necessary sometimes, and they're just so much more fun than talking - if people didn't use guns to negotiate, we basically wouldn't have the FPS genre.... think about that!
"they're just so much more fun than talking"?

I rather have a simple negotiation without guns IRL rather than lying on the floor with a bullet in my head. IRL.
I know what you mean, though. Shooting at eachother online is fun, but never forget that it's just a game. You cannot compare it to real life shooting.
Yeah, maybe this kind of went over your head or something, but I was being sarcastic. I don't actually support violence as a reasonable solution to conflict - wars only lead to more and more conflict, so the only way to ensure peace is through diplomatic negotiation. However, as someone pointed out earlier, there are some people who simply can't be reasoned with, and as a result guns become the only viable solution.
 

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Skarin said:
Samurai Goomba said:
Skarin said:
The problem with words is that it can be twisted and manipulated and when the pen is mightier than the sword, it pays to have a gun close by. Just in case someone tries to bend your words.
The pen only seems like a mightier weapon because when you start using it, the only people around are wimpy scholars. They're easier to kill with pens than vikings are with swords.

Hence, the phrase.
Not saying that your average politician is a scholar or a viking but I am sure they can do quite a lot of damage with a pen. Like signing an order for a nuclear strike.

If you had a gun, you could shoot the guy with a pen before he could order a nuclear strike.

Hence, my phrase!.
Or you could instead stab him in the neck with your pen before he could use his sword to sign an order for a nuclear strike.

Once again, back to my phrase.
 

Segadroid

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Samurai Goomba said:
Skarin said:
Samurai Goomba said:
Skarin said:
The problem with words is that it can be twisted and manipulated and when the pen is mightier than the sword, it pays to have a gun close by. Just in case someone tries to bend your words.
The pen only seems like a mightier weapon because when you start using it, the only people around are wimpy scholars. They're easier to kill with pens than vikings are with swords.

Hence, the phrase.
Not saying that your average politician is a scholar or a viking but I am sure they can do quite a lot of damage with a pen. Like signing an order for a nuclear strike.

If you had a gun, you could shoot the guy with a pen before he could order a nuclear strike.

Hence, my phrase!.
Or you could instead stab him in the neck with your pen before he could use his sword to sign an order for a nuclear strike.

Once again, back to my phrase.
Mayday, mayday. Return to OP altitude.
 

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Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, as well as the first choice for the guy with the biggest stick.
 

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What about the use of weapons as a diplomatic tool?

North Korea is a good example. With their nuclear program they have a huge bargaining tool because everyone is desperate for them to disband it.

Or am i reading to far into this?
 

Kollega

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You know, it would be nice to solve everything diplomatically and reach compromises in everything. But sometimes, people just won't listen to you and keep insisting on genocide of your nation. Then you pull out the gun and shoot them.

Bottom line: it's better to have both reasonable diplomatic position (for actually solving problems) and assault rifle (for defending yourself from raving lunatics).
 

Thaius

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I think it should only be used if negotiations don't work out, but in some situations you simply have to show people that you mean business. It's often unavoidable, unfortunately.
 

Samurai Goomba

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Segadroid said:
Samurai Goomba said:
Skarin said:
Samurai Goomba said:
Skarin said:
The problem with words is that it can be twisted and manipulated and when the pen is mightier than the sword, it pays to have a gun close by. Just in case someone tries to bend your words.
The pen only seems like a mightier weapon because when you start using it, the only people around are wimpy scholars. They're easier to kill with pens than vikings are with swords.

Hence, the phrase.
Not saying that your average politician is a scholar or a viking but I am sure they can do quite a lot of damage with a pen. Like signing an order for a nuclear strike.

If you had a gun, you could shoot the guy with a pen before he could order a nuclear strike.

Hence, my phrase!.
Or you could instead stab him in the neck with your pen before he could use his sword to sign an order for a nuclear strike.

Once again, back to my phrase.
Mayday, mayday. Return to OP altitude.
Negative, control, continuing on present course. Hostile moderators appearing in quadrant D-4. Request additional support. Over.