Team Fortress 2 Gets Massive Update

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RatherDull said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
Well guess I'm playing TF2 again today and thank the maker the dead ringer got the nerf because I hated playing Pyro vs a Spy when the spy won't even burn and can still backstab me at the speed of light.
Now they can put a L'Etranger on and get +40% cloak time though.
Still doesn't counter having a persistent damage source like flamethrower or a minigun on you. It gives the attacker some sort of power. Also, nobody uses anything but the Ambassador from what I've seen.
 

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Jandau said:
Ugh, random items are one of the most abusive microtransaction models I've seen. Yes, I know it's not the whole update, but I get a twitch in my lower eyelid whenever I see it. Paying money to have a CHANCE to get what you want is just wrong... And it's not just Valve that does it; it's pretty much the norm in Guild Wars 2 as well. At least there you sometimes get chest keys as random drops...
Anything that Valve implements that has an actual effect on the gameplay you can get without paying money. Everything else is just for show. If people want to pay money for cosmetic items, or pay for a chance at rare cosmetic items then they can feel free. No one is forcing them and it's not required to play the game. I understand the moral arguments that can be made against it and random item drops in general, but the truth is that Valve's implementation is probably the best implementation in any game I'm familiar with. Far too many companies get free to play very, very wrong, but Valve isn't really one of them.
 

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
Well guess I'm playing TF2 again today and thank the maker the dead ringer got the nerf because I hated playing Pyro vs a Spy when the spy won't even burn and can still backstab me at the speed of light.
I highly suggest you learn how to play spy. It helps a lot as a pyro to know how a Spy works and how they can get some quick stabs on you. It will prevent side-stabbing/Matador Stabbing.
For the life of me I've tried and failed so many many times to a point where the Spy is just a character I really can't touch no matter what.
 

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I wouldn't exactly call it massive. There've been a lot of bigger and more significant updates before.
 

vallorn

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The new Powerjack Of Running Urgently buff/nerf/sidegrade for the Pyro is interesting. the 20% more damage REALLY makes it a dangerous tactic on a squishy class like Pyro though. Much more so than the Heavy and his GRU.

On the other hand it's only active when held so there are some possible advanced tactics with the Backburner for ambushes and a powerjack finish for health.

Oh and. Pyro confirmed for Valve's least favorite class. No buffs for Pyro.
 

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vallorn said:
The new Powerjack Of Running Urgently buff/nerf/sidegrade for the Pyro is interesting. the 20% more damage REALLY makes it a dangerous tactic on a squishy class like Pyro though. Much more so than the Heavy and his GRU.

On the other hand it's only active when held so there are some possible advanced tactics with the Backburner for ambushes and a powerjack finish for health.

Oh and. Pyro confirmed for Valve's least favorite class. No buffs for Pyro.
Powerjack becomes one of two "Wandering/ambush" Pyro setup melees (other being Backscratcher). You either have to quest for health but they heal more and do increased damage, or take more damage, have a way to regain the health on hand, and get a speed boost.
 

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Oh, we're punishing people for catching typos now, are we? Stay classy, Escapist.

Jandau said:
Ugh, random items are one of the most abusive microtransaction models I've seen. Yes, I know it's not the whole update, but I get a twitch in my lower eyelid whenever I see it. Paying money to have a CHANCE to get what you want is just wrong... And it's not just Valve that does it; it's pretty much the norm in Guild Wars 2 as well. At least there you sometimes get chest keys as random drops...
It is also quite possibly illegal, given that gambling is not legal everywhere that the game is playable. Cereals with mail-in sweepstakes have to include disclaimers that there's "no purchase necessary" because that's considered gambling in some states, even though you're still getting the cereal. So why is Valve allowed to get away with this? Besides that it's against their TOS to sue them now.