Teenager attacked by a woman for flying a "drone" over a beach; called a "pervert"

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Auron225

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Smart kid. I would've sank my teeth into her had she been on me like that. I'm not sure I could claim self-defence with that... but yeah, good on him for restraining and especially for managing to film it. I wish he was pressing charges though - she deserves everything she gets.
 

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1. I'm not too shook up about it.

2. Luck had little to do with it. When he was faced with a violent, crazy individual, he kept his wits about him and wisely focused the camera on him and the woman. The kid's a smart cookie.

3. Not sure about every possible scenario, but if you're in an area that is designated a public area, treated and seen as a public area, and is visited frequently by the public, the closest to privacy you should expect is to be left alone.

4. I far more concerned about how the woman acted, rather than the kid and what he was doing. She might have been uncomfortable being recorded in such a fashion, but instead of conversing with the kid calmly and letting him know of her discomfort - which I'm sure would have had the kid to give his "eye in the sky" a break - she jumped to a conclusion and proceeded to act on it through violence. I'm glad she ended up paying for her stupidity (because it's stupid to judge someone and treat them negatively when you don't know a damn thing about them), but I'm also sad that she thought her behavior was the appropriate response.
 

DerangedHobo

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Not to sound like some red piller or anything but the whole "Woman lashes out then tries to play the victim card" is bad enough, let alone the complete knee jerk irrational aspect. Last time I checked, google maps was a thing, CCTV was a thing, the NSA was a thing but some speccy teenager with the equivilent of a flying RC car (When did we start calling this shit drones like we're in baghdad?)is the height of rights infringement? Fuck me.
 

wulf3n

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The Lunatic said:
23 Year Old Man Attacks 17 Year Old Girl, rips her shirt off, holds her down. Tells Police she started it and has attacked him, and they believe him until evidence is shown.

I think people would react to that a hell of a lot more severely than to this.
The only real difference in that situation would have been that no one would have believed the man.

OT:

As bad as it sounds, it's situations like this that make me actually want a big-brother like scenario for all public spaces. I mean how fucked would this situation have been had the kid not been filming.
 

Saika Renegade

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I loathe people who make false accusations, especially criminal ones, with the fiery intensity of ten thousand suns all poised to go into a supernova state. Anyone who's willing to lie to authorities just to use them as a tool to hurt another person in some way is beyond despicable, and that alone makes me want to push her off a cliff.

That said, she made accusations without proof besides (especially because, as noted, drones are really damned noisy and incredibly obvious) and assaulted the kid when he tried to get away from the crazy stranger dead set on getting him in trouble when he was blameless.

I sincerely hope she suffers in some fashion. Socially, judicially, something.
 

Queen Michael

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Look, if you don't want people to see you in a bikini, then don't wear a bikini in public. What, it's okay if they see your actual body, but not a picture of it?

Besides, there's sure to be people taking photos on a beach -- family pictures and the like. I'm sorry, but in this world you will be photographed and filmed whether you like it or not.
 

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I've been flying RC planes since I was 7. I have built a few quadrotors as well, my first when I was 13 back in 2006 before drones were even a huge deal. And I've stuck all kinds of electronics into model rockets and even weather balloons. Robotics was the very reason I chose to go to school for electronics engineering and then to graduate school for it (just finished my first semester btw :p). I've worked with a lot of the technology and believe me when I say it all has enormous humanitarian and commercial potential that we're only just beginning to scrape at, and it should be embraced, not feared.

I mean I guess you could look at this from a feminist issue, but she had no more reason to be concerned about inappropriate filming by the drone pilot than from the hundreds of people nearby who would have had smartphones. It's a technology issue, or rather how people respond to new technology.

People for some reason are terrified of drones. I think it has something to do with their association with the military, or maybe just the novelty aspect. But the fact is that people have been flying drones for decades in the form of RC model airplanes and helicopters and putting cameras on them from the minute it was possible to do so.

But onto the video...what the fuck?

First of all, she had that uncanny valley accent going...was it just me or was there something seriously off about her voice, like she wasn't all there? I'm going to go with drugs, just because I'm pissed off at her, but once I'm cooled off I'll be open to the suggestion that this happened because she has a mental health issue.

Second, just how that kid was being treated made my piss boil. She isn't defending herself, she knocks him to the ground, rips and claws at his shirt, tries to force her hand into his mouth and apparently pulls something out (I hope for his sake it wasn't a tongue stud or something...yikes..) and apparently hits him a few times. And we're not talking about an armed attacker here, we're talking about a 17 year old robotics nerd, typically not much of a physical threat. Even so, he was very wise in not hitting back (especially since that would make suing her a much more complicated situation) and using his free hand to record the assault. This is going to be open and shut, thankfully. She attacked him, he didn't hit back, and he has a video recording of the attack.

He wasn't taking videos of her either. She wigged out because he was allegedly taking videos of other people, and I'm sure just playing the footage recorded by the drone will make clear that he was not.

The US, and in fact the entire world, has a dire shortage of people who can work with technology. It's a rare skill for a teenager to be able to put one of these things together. Just one more way that the normalization of intellectual mediocrity makes people so hostile towards anyone with any unique talent. We can't be subjecting the rare people with these important talents to the threat of being attacked by a paranoid madwoman if they dare to use them.

The open source and Maker communities have been fighting off legislators and lawyers (there are a few interests that would be very keen to see products like Ubuntu or OpenOffice leave the market), and even more recently they've tried to use drones as a wedge strategy. Best case scenario, this case establishes precedent for protecting civilians' right to use drones and disarms that particular wedge strategy. And at the very least, it'll surely pay for this kid's college.
 

Machine Man 1992

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wulf3n said:
The Lunatic said:
23 Year Old Man Attacks 17 Year Old Girl, rips her shirt off, holds her down. Tells Police she started it and has attacked him, and they believe him until evidence is shown.

I think people would react to that a hell of a lot more severely than to this.
The only real difference in that situation would have been that no one would have believed the man.

OT:

As bad as it sounds, it's situations like this that make me actually want a big-brother like scenario for all public spaces. I mean how fucked would this situation have been had the kid not been filming.
Careful; it's like Ben Franklin said, "those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither."

Now personally, I wish we lived in a country where assault was legal, then we could pummel each other to our hearts content.
 

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Machine Man 1992 said:
Careful; it's like Ben Franklin said, "those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither."
It only those were the only two things people cared about...but as far as I know people are more than willing to give up liberty for convenience, so this old adage rings...well, old.
 

wulf3n

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Machine Man 1992 said:
Careful; it's like Ben Franklin said, "those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither."
Why not? Doesn't everyone deserve safety? Plus it's somewhat ironic for a man who helped establish a governing body talking badly about sacrificing liberty. A government by it's very nature is a sacrifice of liberty.

Machine Man 1992 said:
Now personally, I wish we lived in a country where assault was legal, then we could pummel each other to our hearts content.
You say that now, but what do you honestly think your chances are of being one of the few doing the pummeling?
 

BanicRhys

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This story has got me seriously considering taking the tape off of my phone's cameras. Good news NSA, you can now watch my fapping face to your heart's content.

Machine Man 1992 said:
Careful; it's like Ben Franklin said, "those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither."
He'd also say things like "Ay sugar titsh, passh ush some moar wine wouldya?" so I tend to take quotes from him with a grain of salt.
 

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The thing is, he was filming in a public place, and under US law it is legal to videotape anything and anyone as long as they are on public property (excluding places with an expectation of privacy such as toilets or changing areas or causing obstruction to public and emergency services).

She well and truly overreacted, if she didn't want to be filmed, all she had to do was ask him politely to stop. He wasn't directly targeting her or anyone else so he wasn't violating privacy laws either. That kid handled himself very well for what happened to him. She deserves to be hit with the full extent of the law for common assault.
 

Sarah Kerrigan

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Really I think the whole thing wrong with this situation was that it was an adult assaulting a minor...right? And she lied to police?
 

Darknacht

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Since when do we call hobbyist helicopters drones?
And how dumb are the cops for seeing a minor beat up with his clothes torn and an adult with no visible damage and assume that its the minors fault?
 

tilmoph

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I think everyone else covered most of what I wanted to say about this; chick is crazy, no, we are not banning private landscape filming with a toy copter cuz one of the ant-people in the picture might be uncomfortable with being an indistinguishable point against the tress or ocean or whatever is being filmed. Yay, she's probably going to jail, and she absolutely deserves to go to jail, between the whole assaulting a minor, tying up emergency resources, and lying to the cops thing.

My big, big question here is; how in the holy hell did the cops believe her!? Kid has marks on his face and his shirt is ripped open. Not going to lie, her attack looked pretty damn rapey to me. Beating a minor, ripping his clothes, fondling his mouth and I swear I saw her run her fingers over his nipple. I know it wasn't, but holy shit that whole thing looked messed up. And somehow, the cops looked at the aftermath and bought her story? Seriously, how? "she's a woman" would be countered by "he's a minor", I would think.
 

mistahzig1

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She applied for probation yesterday and could leave this incident without a record

http://foxct.com/2014/06/19/woman-from-viral-drone-video-appears-in-court/
 

Zeckt

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What a sad state of affairs. I hate to sound the parrot here but just imagine if it was an adult male assaulting an underage girl, ripping her shirt and lying to the police? The kid is obviously very intelligent. Still, kid's need protection from adults regardless of gender.