Tekken Boss Would Rather Quit Than Sell Characters

Rooster Cogburn

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theultimateend said:
Rooster Cogburn said:
JezWilkinson said:
The core Tekken experience will remain free to all players.
On Gamestop.com preordering this game costs $60. Can we strive for a little more clarity? I know perfectly well what you meant but lately the definition of 'free' seems to be a product that costs any amount of money whatsoever. Am I being obnoxious? I know in this instance people are not likely to be misled, I just don't think it's a good idea to let ambiguity and misdirection reign.
Not Obnoxious, just Pedantic.
I'm saying it's confusing. I'm not concerned if it follows whatever language conventions as long as the meaning is clear.
 

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ScruffyMcBalls said:
Great, another game no one will be able to fully enjoy if they come across it in ten years time. If the DLC is free, why bother at all? Why not just start work on the next game immediately and make sure the game you've just released is actually enjoyable enough to keep us happy till it's sequel is released?
W-what? I played Tekken 3 (1998) and it's still enjoyable. Hell, boot up a copy of 'Harvest Moon'(1996) and it's still very addictive and enjoyable, regardless of being 16 years old. (Damn. I feel old now.)

There are loooooads of games (especially if you use an emulator; DOS box) and I'm pretty sure DLC won't keep you entertained for 2-5 years that it takes to develop a sequel.

Also, the DLC isn't free. There is no DLC.
 

theultimateend

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Rooster Cogburn said:
theultimateend said:
Rooster Cogburn said:
JezWilkinson said:
The core Tekken experience will remain free to all players.
On Gamestop.com preordering this game costs $60. Can we strive for a little more clarity? I know perfectly well what you meant but lately the definition of 'free' seems to be a product that costs any amount of money whatsoever. Am I being obnoxious? I know in this instance people are not likely to be misled, I just don't think it's a good idea to let ambiguity and misdirection reign.
Not Obnoxious, just Pedantic.
I'm saying it's confusing. I'm not concerned if it follows whatever language conventions as long as the meaning is clear.
English is one of those languages where as long as the implied message is clear (which it is in the context of the conversation) then the choice words are less critical.

For instance if someone said "Stop Shooting!" during the filming of a scene, only a pedant would say "Do you mean to cease filming this production or should those with arms halt their ejection of lead rounds?"

Given that only one of those interpretations makes sense given the context of the scene (lets just assume that only filming was going on and the movie was the notebook at any point where no guns exist) it is safe to assume what is meant.

Just like here it is obvious he means, in the context of DLC, that no user should be expected to pay above and beyond the initial asking price.

Which won't be 60 dollars for longer than a month or two at best.

Game prices ARE far too high and the cost in the graphics department have gotten overbloated and ridiculous, in that I agree with you, but this guys conversation is pretty on the nose and obvious.
 

ScruffyMcBalls

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Lucem712 said:
ScruffyMcBalls said:
Great, another game no one will be able to fully enjoy if they come across it in ten years time. If the DLC is free, why bother at all? Why not just start work on the next game immediately and make sure the game you've just released is actually enjoyable enough to keep us happy till it's sequel is released?
W-what? I played Tekken 3 (1998) and it's still enjoyable. Hell, boot up a copy of 'Harvest Moon'(1996) and it's still very addictive and enjoyable, regardless of being 16 years old. (Damn. I feel old now.)

There are loooooads of games (especially if you use an emulator; DOS box) and I'm pretty sure DLC won't keep you entertained for 2-5 years that it takes to develop a sequel.

Also, the DLC isn't free. There is no DLC.
Think you've read me wrong here dude, I love (I shall repeat that, LOVE) dozens of the games of yester-year, especially Tekken 3. When I originally wrote my comment I was going to talk about how a game like Tekken has kept my interest for fourteen years without DLC support, but figured it was too long-winded. What I'm saying here is not that old games aren't enjoyable, the complete opposite! Games rocked back then, they still do now, that's why I spend hundreds of pounds a year buying old video games. What I am saying is that someone coming across this Tekken title in ten years time after the DLC is no longer available will not be able to fully appreciate the whole game in the way we can when we pick up a game from the early 2000s or the 90s. What I'd rather Namco Bandai do is release a whole game that doesn't have any DLC at all, and just start working on the follow up as soon as possible, putting man hours not into DLC which won't actually make them any money, but instead into a full blown game.
So, we good now?
 

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theultimateend said:
Rooster Cogburn said:
theultimateend said:
Rooster Cogburn said:
JezWilkinson said:
The core Tekken experience will remain free to all players.
On Gamestop.com preordering this game costs $60. Can we strive for a little more clarity? I know perfectly well what you meant but lately the definition of 'free' seems to be a product that costs any amount of money whatsoever. Am I being obnoxious? I know in this instance people are not likely to be misled, I just don't think it's a good idea to let ambiguity and misdirection reign.
Not Obnoxious, just Pedantic.
I'm saying it's confusing. I'm not concerned if it follows whatever language conventions as long as the meaning is clear.
English is one of those languages where as long as the implied message is clear (which it is in the context of the conversation) then the choice words are less critical.

For instance if someone said "Stop Shooting!" during the filming of a scene, only a pedant would say "Do you mean to cease filming this production or should those with arms halt their ejection of lead rounds?"

Given that only one of those interpretations makes sense given the context of the scene (lets just assume that only filming was going on and the movie was the notebook at any point where no guns exist) it is safe to assume what is meant.

Just like here it is obvious he means, in the context of DLC, that no user should be expected to pay above and beyond the initial asking price.

Which won't be 60 dollars for longer than a month or two at best.

Game prices ARE far too high and the cost in the graphics department have gotten overbloated and ridiculous, in that I agree with you, but this guys conversation is pretty on the nose and obvious.
Nope, you are incorrect. It is ambiguous and confusing. I wasn't sure the game was not free-to-play until they started talking about preordering it and I still had to check the price myself to be sure he did not mean what he said the way he said it. Language does not have to be literal to have clear meaning as you have amply demonstrated.