TERA - First Impressions

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DarkhoIlow

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I played the Closed Beta Weekend 4 and I must say that the game really surprised me(this is coming from a 7y WoW player).I played a Castanic Female Warrior.

The gameplay is a mix between Vindictus and normal mmo's(action bar skills with cooldowns) and it is quite entertaining.The combat is similar to Guild Wars 2.

The questing is standard mmo(go kill X mobs,escort Y there etc).

Graphics wise I can say that it's the most beautiful MMO that I've played(with everything on max).Every zone that you choose to quest in is a different enviorement and scenery than the next,I love the variety.

The animations,character models and items in the game look fantastic(koreans really know their shizz).

End content I haven't played(only manage to get to lvl 36 in the beta,lvl 38 being the max).


All in all a good MMO with a great gameplay mechanic.Even though the questing is similar and tedious,the combat really made me push further and further without stopping.


PS: I made an album with some screenshots if you guys wanna check that out(copy the link to see them):

s951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/Darkholow/TERA%20beta/
 

Richardplex

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Buretsu said:
My first impression?

"Wow, the girls in this game are hot. I feel my time would be better spent looking up porn for this game than playing it."

Richardplex said:
I don't see the problem with the elin, it's a cultural thing. Just a case of western audience backlashing angrily at something harmless and normal in JapaneseAsian culture that they don't understand.
Exactly. The sexualization of young girls is harmless and normal in Asian culture. Because what girls are more docile and submissive (in the bedroom)? They're the ideal.
Read my other post. Panty shots are so prevalent that it's not really seen sexually anymore. Hence, the girls are moe (girls that are cute, as in adorable) rather than loli.
 

Lunar Templar

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Axyun said:
I don't really consider Vindictus to be an MMO. At least not a traditional one. In Vindictus you can't mix class and race. Instead, you pick one of 4 (5?) preset characters and do some minor tweaking. Which means classes and general appearances are gender-locked.
still just 4, with Kai, the 5th only just, or about to come out in KR, i did how ever, hear after that they might release a character that you can pretty much do what ever with (the reason for the gender locking being the story they have this hard on for)

All game content, including dungeons, can be done solo and the game as a whole is more reminiscent of Guild Wars 1 than 2. I consider GW2 to be an MMO, not GW1. GW1 = Fancy chat hub with party-instance-based content. Not that there's anything wrong with that as I loved me some GW1. GW2, though, has a true open world where players can run into each other.
not gonna lie, a more open world Vin sounds cool. BUT, i imagine, given TERA's combat system you could solo most if not all of it if you have the skill as well (just a guess, not in the beta)

Finally, regarding graphics, Vindictus' are decent but Tera's are better (at a technical level). Tera's assets are more detailed with higher polygon count and higher resolution textures. Heck, the flying horse used to travel around looks better than anything I've seen on any game recently. Amazing level of detail. Too bad everything is of such high detail that the draw-distance has to be pretty aggressive.
graphics aren't every thing, but your under cutting Vin's graphics. Vin looks a lot better then a LOT of AAA games, and its free to play.
 

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Lunar Templar said:
not gonna lie, a more open world Vin sounds cool. BUT, i imagine, given TERA's combat system you could solo most if not all of it if you have the skill as well (just a guess, not in the beta)
Tera is standard fare MMO in this case. Outdoor quests are all solo-able. Then you have your 5 man dungeons and 10+ man dungeons. Outside world bosses tend to required from a party of 5 to a full raid to defeat. However the level scaling is non-linear and it is possible to take on some big monsters after you've gained only a few levels on them. Only applies to the weaker world bosses, though.

Lunar Templar said:
graphics aren't every thing, but your under cutting Vin's graphics. Vin looks a lot better then a LOT of AAA games, and its free to play.
Agreed. I didn't mean to make it sound like Vindictus' graphics are bad. They are very good, especially considering its a F2P game. Both games are way ahead of WoW or the current spate of F2P games. What I do feel Vindictus does better than Tera is make combat feel more visceral. Tera's combat is miles ahead of current MMOs but that's not much of a praise. MMO combat in general is really boring and unengaging. Tera and Vindictus combat works on the same principles but attacks in Vindictus feel stronger and a bit more satisfying to land. Tera opts to be slightly slower and more methodical.
 

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The gameplay is fun but from what I've played it's also heavily gear reliant, which is retarded with a combat system that, without the gear advantage, requires skill. Whatever though; Koreans gonna be Korean. It feels also like it's one of those games that is hyped up to be skill-based but in reality really isn't, like COD. It's unsurprisingly full of scrubs too, both on my server and the forums.

More generally speaking, I disagree with MMOs that focus solely on end-game. TERA is like that, and everything prior is a forgettable grind. I know you can't even reach end-game in the Beta but that shit isn't going to exactly change at launch, it's gonna be a boring ass grind full of kill counters until you finally hit max level and play what you originally wanted to. I can't be bothered, so I won't be playing it.
 

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Richardplex said:
Read my other post. Panty shots are so prevalent that it's not really seen sexually anymore. Hence, the girls are moe (girls that are cute, as in adorable) rather than loli.
Oh really. Not sexual any more? So you're honestly claiming that panty shots in media such as games and anime are not fanservice and are not there to titillate?

Qitz said:
Eh, the Elin are some 400 years old so who gives a shit
So, they fall under the category TVTropes calls Legal Jail Bait [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LegalJailBait] eh?

Still creepy, people. Still very, very creepy!

Seriously, just because it's a toon don't kid yourself you're not being a bit of a paedo.
 

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Axyun said:
Agreed. I didn't mean to make it sound like Vindictus' graphics are bad. They are very good, especially considering its a F2P game. Both games are way ahead of WoW or the current spate of F2P games. What I do feel Vindictus does better than Tera is make combat feel more visceral. Tera's combat is miles ahead of current MMOs but that's not much of a praise. MMO combat in general is really boring and unengaging. Tera and Vindictus combat works on the same principles but attacks in Vindictus feel stronger and a bit more satisfying to land. Tera opts to be slightly slower and more methodical.
gonna have to take your word for that on Tera, but yeah, attacks like Stigma Hammer, or ... Karok ... just ... Karok, o.0 defiantly have that feel to em.

though with any luck Tera will avoid the rather sorry state the characters are in, in Vin (Lann is basically a liability and Evie is OP with only Fiona and Karok having some semblance of balance)
 

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FranBunnyFFXII said:
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Craorach said:
They have a race that is basically a preteen girl prancing around showing her panties. This is one of those games that is NOT going to help the reputation of gamers in general and MMOs specifically.
Lol seriously?
http://tera.enmasse.com/game-guide/races/elin

Jesse Cox did some video's which was where I first saw it.
Promoting Furry lolis and lieing to the online mmo community, TERA's got alot going for it already doesnt it?
World of Warcraft is as 'guilty' with worgen, and I don't see the problem with the elin, it's a cultural thing. Just a case of western audience backlashing angrily at something harmless and normal in Japanese culture that they don't understand.
Except that youre entirely wrong.
TERA isnt japanese, it's Korean.
2nd Portrayal of underage females sexuallized is a globally occuring desire, and isnt limited to asian and neither is furry so WoW isnt guilty of anything, but portayal of "loli" is certainly questionalbe
Just curious, if you see a young girl at the beach in a two piece, do you like tar and feather the mom or start charging them with flaming pitchforks? Have you firebombed any Little Miss Whatever pageants lately?

Frankly, you sound like you're overcompensating. All this rage directed at what? A race of "little girls" with cat-ears in a game you've already said you have no intention of playing because Vindictus did the combat style first? So you don't like it, a lot of people don't, a lot of people don't like rough sex from men with hairy bums, but I don't see raging about the big, bare-chested men in video games.

I also love the irony of someone bashing on furries while being named after the ultra-sexualized bunny girl from FF12.
 

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ms_sunlight said:
Richardplex said:
Read my other post. Panty shots are so prevalent that it's not really seen sexually anymore. Hence, the girls are moe (girls that are cute, as in adorable) rather than loli.
Oh really. Not sexual any more? So you're honestly claiming that panty shots in media such as games and anime are not fanservice and are not there to titillate?

Qitz said:
Eh, the Elin are some 400 years old so who gives a shit
So, they fall under the category TVTropes calls Legal Jail Bait [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LegalJailBait] eh?

Still creepy, people. Still very, very creepy!

Seriously, just because it's a toon don't kid yourself you're not being a bit of a paedo.
I'm not going to blanket statement and say no - your right there is tons of fanservice there to titillate people who have a thing for panties. But there is a lot of media where panty shots aren't for titilation - take the Unwanted Harem genre/subgenre/trope for example. I wish people would grow up and just accept there are panties and move on. Take Amy Rose for example in sonic. She wears a dress/skirt, and she's doing acrobatics, so of course you can see her panties, despite her being 12. I didn't think she'd have to wear trousers because panties are such embarrassing things. Like I said, being up in arms because of panty shots restricts art design, and to hold back art styles and design because we're so offended by panties is more immature than having panty shots in the first place. Maybe one day we'll accept that people *do* watch porn, they *do* masturbate, both men and women, and girls *do* wear panties. Maybe then we can move on with our lives like adults.

As regards to "Seriously, just because it's a toon don't kid yourself you're not being a bit of a paedo" - depends what you mean. If you mean your sexually aroused by loli, yeah, you are, but there is no victim in lolicon. In fact, it's a good thing (god I didn't want to get into this, but whatever). Paedophiles can work through their urges, having none of it pent up, safely with no victim. As opposed to paedophiles who don't, and have to live their lives having to suppress something they can't control (because, you know, it's a mental problem not a life choice) or if they can't suppress it, well, there are victims. There have been many cases of paedophiles switching from child pornography to lolicon/shotacon because they are so horrified at the things the children go through. So yeah, people would be being paedophilic, but they are working through their problem without there being victims.

I'm going to assume you meant that comment purely for sexual reasons. Because like I said, unwanted harem, and that tvtropes link you gave has the quote from Evangeline, who regular exposes her panties becauses she's genre-savvy about lolicons, and plays to it. Done well, as it is, it can be highly amusing, which it is.
 

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lets see another korean mmo grindfest that people will at first say has great gameplay and no grind then after about 3-5 months will only say it has too mch grind/

no new news here.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
lets see another korean mmo grindfest that people will at first say has great gameplay and no grind then after about 3-5 months will only say it has too mch grind/

no new news here.
Strangely enough the forums are replete with posts demanding that leveling be slowed down. Some zones were even being skipped by players because they outleveled them by the time they got there. In the last beta weekend, many players hit the beta level cap (38). I played a handful of hours and got to 22. And that's being my first time playing the beta.

Don't get me wrong. There's a lot that's wrong with this game. Some things the publisher is claiming they will address "soon" but we only have their word for it. However, slow leveling is not one of them.
 

zefiris

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Panty shots are so prevalent that it's not really seen sexually anymore
This is what male nerds actually want others to believe.

Of course, yes, it's sexualized, that's why it's there. If there was nothing sexual about it, you'd not see them this prevalent. The reason you boys freak out over them IS the sexual aspect.

Hence, the girls are moe (girls that are cute, as in adorable) rather than loli.
Loli and moe are not distinct categories. Something can be loli and moe.
Which is the case here.

Something tells me this game will be overshadowed by Guild Wars 2.
Same here. GW2 doesn't need to throw tons of naked girlmeat and underage girl panties at gamers to interest people, it does so by being a well designed game.

Face it, when a game tries this hard to appeal with sex, then it doesn't have much else to offer.
 

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A monthly fee? Do they seriously think they can compete against WoW or SWTOR with a traditional monthly fee? It will be demolished by the competition (especially by GW2) and will be F2P within 6 months of release.
 

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But i am looking forward more to Guild Wars. I just tried Tera out and i think the best part of the game. In my opinion. ARE THE GIRL MODELS. I mean, THE BACK SIDE OF THE FIRST FEMALE COSTUME IS "OPEN" i can look at that dookie everytime! lol But seriously the Combat is fast paced. and thats what i love from a Game like this.

Guild Wars 2. However. Will pwn this and that other game.. WOW..
 

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"Combat", which basically means grind.

Yep, I'll believe the only thing this game has going for it is fanservice.

Hey, good for all the Lolicons who think they can make grinding less boring by staring at loli ass. To me, it sounds like a gigantic waste of money.
zefiris said:
Face it, when a game tries this hard to appeal with sex, then it doesn't have much else to offer.
Basically this. I'm not singling out loli hind quarters by the way. This game in general is far too pornographic and it makes the game incredibly silly and campy.

Actually, silly is good. It's more just like, really ridiculous. I like an MMORPG realm that I can take seriously. Or at least laugh at because it silly and bubbly in general. Tera tries to be dark and gritty AND throw in all the fanservice. Like this is some realm to really take seriously and get into, while everyone is randomly half naked.
 

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FranBunnyFFXII said:
Youre downplaying Vindictus's graphics greatly, After all it IS the source engine, same as Portal 2, Half life 2 series of games, ect.
Not to mention the amount of detail they put into the beastiary and armors. Plus im not sure about TERA but Vindictus requires a moderate to advanced amount of skill akin to Devil May Cry Bayonetta or Legend of Zelda, which is REALLY COOL. an mmo that actually challenges the players skills and can halt progression of the player doenst first learn to fight what their up agaisnt.
Vin is pretty impressive even if it were a paid game, the biggest problem i have with vin is the copypasta of their raids and monster compilation. and the limited character creation.
An engine does not guarantee any level of graphical quality. Engines are more indicative of performance for mechanics and platforms as well as supported features. I can make a game that looks like ass using the Source engine if I use 32x32 textures, low-polygon assets, and no form or lighting, real-time or otherwise.

I will say that Vindictus is more challenging than Tera. I think the developers are either trying to cater to a wide audience or underestimating the player base. Tera is ridiculously easy until you hit the mid level range and higher. Boss fights, though, are appropriately difficult.

IMO, neither game is anywhere near as difficult as DMC or Bayonetta. Timing is much more important in those games and screwing up is less forgiving. And I think that is to be expected. In single player games, dying places you one quickload away from retrying. Not the case in MMOs. Too frequent deaths in an MMO party will slow gameplay down too much.