test time: personality
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It is. Remember you're in a unique forum. All the ESF_ types are off throwing parties and playing sports - or looking at photos of parties and sports on Facebook. We're the quiet, thoughtful types who spend time on semi-intellectual internet forums about videogames.Lukeje said:
Chalk up another INTP for me. I used to always get ENTP, but eventually I realised I was lying to myself: I don't enjoy loud parties, damn it.
considering that people that propelled mankind forward were rationals, i'd not say it's a bad thing. you have people like einstein or jefferson; i would not take such comparison for granted.Kringel said:
i'm still trying to understand the interpretor that you logical thinkers use, but that was not the point of this thread.
Well, as long as we don't have to help them plotting I'll be happy.Kringel said:
Interesting that counselors don't seem to fancy actually doing any counselling. Have our empathy and understanding made us realise that people are troublesome, I wonder.
i reckon it's because of a judgmental start. i remember when i was younger i didn't want to become a psychologist, but in recent years my interest for it has really sprung it. it was the same case when i started learning algorithms and data structures: in the beginning, i hated them, but now i would be hard pressed to code without them.teh_gunslinger said:Well, as long as we don't have to help them plotting I'll be happy.Kringel said:
Interesting that counselors don't seem to fancy actually doing any counselling. Have our empathy and understanding made us realise that people are troublesome, I wonder.
If you don't want to discuss, why start a thread? It's boring if you don't analyze it.theklng said:
Most people are aware of the Jung Typology Test and the Myers-Briggs Personality Types--heck, one of my jobs had me take the Myers-Briggs test, and it was silly. Take the reason vs. emotion questions, the ones that read like "do you reason out problems or go with your emotions?" I do both, because I know that my emotions are based on my automatized values, which are a result of my thinking. So I take my emotions as a guide and try to reason out and understand *why* I feel a given way. I'm acting based on emotions AND reason.
The other alternatives are just as silly. Perceiving vs. Judging? What are you judging if you're not perceiving? And if you're not judging what you perceive, then what *are* you doing with it? Introvert vs. Extrovert? Everyone I know is both, it just depends on the situation. I personally swap between the two every time I take the test. And Sensing vs. Intuitive is just bizarre, because everyone, yet again, does both.
I'd be more interested in the results of a test that didn't ask either-or questions that were open to a lot of interpretation but instead required you to solve problems and looked at your methodology. You could learn a lot about someone's psycho-epistemology that way.
are you just hell bent on derailing this thread? you've done nothing but being a troll since your first post.JMeganSnow said:
i collect data for my research on social groups over the internet. as for your type, it's something along the lines of xSxJ. now can we please take further discussions to pm? i'd like not to have this thread locked.
Amen... Never thought I'd be programming when I started studyingtheklng said:i reckon it's because of a judgmental start. i remember when i was younger i didn't want to become a psychologist, but in recent years my interest for it has really sprung it. it was the same case when i started learning algorithms and data structures: in the beginning, i hated them, but now i would be hard pressed to code without them.teh_gunslinger said:Well, as long as we don't have to help them plotting I'll be happy.Kringel said:
Interesting that counselors don't seem to fancy actually doing any counselling. Have our empathy and understanding made us realise that people are troublesome, I wonder.
i reckon it's because of a judgmental start. i remember when i was younger i didn't want to become a psychologist, but in recent years my interest for it has really sprung it. it was the same case when i started learning algorithms and data structures: in the beginning, i hated them, but now i would be hard pressed to code without them.[/quote]theklng said:Well, as long as we don't have to help them plotting I'll be happy.teh_gunslinger said:
Interesting that counselors don't seem to fancy actually doing any counselling. Have our empathy and understanding made us realise that people are troublesome, I wonder.
Hmm. You could be right. I guess we all have things we started out hating but came to be interested in. In high school I hated ancient classical history and literature. But now I'm writing my thesis in Athenian democracy and social cohesion. Guess we live and learn.
However, I think my beef with the whole counseling deal is more selfish. I am getting exhausted by people who want me to listen to their problems. Now, I don't mind listening to people, but they do take a lot of my energy and are rarely interested in helping me if I need an ear or whatever. So I feel I do a lot of hard work without any compensation. At least professionals get paid.
i know the feeling of being tired of helping people, having been in the situation numerous times as well. personally i started being more extroverted, and people started to approach me less. that being said, i still act as a motivator if there's someone that needs help or is in a bad mood, but it also depends on my own mood.teh_gunslinger said:Hmm. You could be right. I guess we all have things we started out hating but came to be interested in. In high school I hated ancient classical history and literature. But now I'm writing my thesis in Athenian democracy and social cohesion. Guess we live and learn.
However, I think my beef with the whole counseling deal is more selfish. I am getting exhausted by people who want me to listen to their problems. Now, I don't mind listening to people, but they do take a lot of my energy and are rarely interested in helping me if I need an ear or whatever. So I feel I do a lot of hard work without any compensation. At least professionals get paid.
either way, whenever i help someone out, i make sure that i give myself a lesson while doing so. as long as i learn, nothing is wasted. were i a professional, i'd treat the money as an extra bonus; self improvement is the priority.
also: there's nothing wrong with being selfish. egotism will give you self esteem, and with that, you can go much further than before. don't do these things just for "them", do them for you as well.
I am usually either an INTP or an ENTP, depending on how long the test is.
And behold:
Your Type is
ENTP
Extraverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
22 62 50 33
A.k.a. The Inventor [http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=5&c=inventor]
-2% of the population.
-They are the most reluctant of all the types to do things in a particular manner just because that's the way they have been done.
-When arguing issues, however, they may deliberately employ debate skills to the serious disadvantage of their opponents.
-[...]as long as the job does not involve too much humdrum routine.
-"It can't be done" is a challenge to an Inventor and elicits a reaction of "I can do it."
Pretty much me. Don't tell me what to do, keep it varied or I will get bored and I love to argue, much to the dismay of my parents and the occassional person that enters a discussion with me.
And the percieving part? I study philosophy, and the first thing we learned is, it's easy to say something, but some things aren't that easily answered.
And behold:
Your Type is
ENTP
Extraverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
22 62 50 33
A.k.a. The Inventor [http://keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=5&c=inventor]
-2% of the population.
-They are the most reluctant of all the types to do things in a particular manner just because that's the way they have been done.
-When arguing issues, however, they may deliberately employ debate skills to the serious disadvantage of their opponents.
-[...]as long as the job does not involve too much humdrum routine.
-"It can't be done" is a challenge to an Inventor and elicits a reaction of "I can do it."
Pretty much me. Don't tell me what to do, keep it varied or I will get bored and I love to argue, much to the dismay of my parents and the occassional person that enters a discussion with me.
And the percieving part? I study philosophy, and the first thing we learned is, it's easy to say something, but some things aren't that easily answered.
INFJ - The "Confidant"
(off a different Website - based on the same theory)
INFJs, making up an estimated 1% of all people, are the most rare type (males even more so). They are introspective, caring, sensitive, gentle and complex people that strive for peace and derive satisfaction from helping others. INFJs are highly intuitive, empathetic and dedicated listeners. These traits tend to act as a "tell me what's wrong" sign on their forehead, hence the nicknames Confidant, Counselor or Empath. INFJs are intensely private and deeply committed to their beliefs.
This test isn't extensive as there are only 4 results (I think) as opposed to the 16 Jung invented.
(off a different Website - based on the same theory)
INFJs, making up an estimated 1% of all people, are the most rare type (males even more so). They are introspective, caring, sensitive, gentle and complex people that strive for peace and derive satisfaction from helping others. INFJs are highly intuitive, empathetic and dedicated listeners. These traits tend to act as a "tell me what's wrong" sign on their forehead, hence the nicknames Confidant, Counselor or Empath. INFJs are intensely private and deeply committed to their beliefs.
This test isn't extensive as there are only 4 results (I think) as opposed to the 16 Jung invented.
Extraverted: 11 Intuitive: 38 Thinking: 62 Judging: 33
There is always a problem with personality tests in that if you are taking them you most likely are not knowing much about yourself.
There is always a problem with personality tests in that if you are taking them you most likely are not knowing much about yourself.
If I were hiding the truth I doubt I would post evidence against me, but I can see why you would say that though. Its just its too easy for anyone to fill in something that is untrue. Like if a question asks if you are popular what is to stop you from filling that in? Even so it depends on your view of popular? Does being popular mean that you have a lot of shallow friends or does it mean that you appear as an incredibly kind person? See? Its flawed because it has you fill it in.D_987 said:
If a third party were to fill in this while following me around I think it could be much more accurate.
that's why these are based on four different attribute pairs. you might be very popular for different reasons, but the test itself never says anything about popularity, it says something about how sociable you are. the "attitude" pair is linked to this exactly; whether you tend to keep to yourself or whether you need or want or like to talk to others. the notion of whether people appreciate your company is entirely ignored.Mercanary57 said:
also, there are 16 different archetypes, divided into four different major groups that share some of the same characteristics.