TF2 Spy weapon help

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Kratenser

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Hi people,

I just crafted an eternal reward for my spy so im pretty excited about getting to test it out, but before i do, i want to make sure i have an optimal weapon configuration so i can achieve 100% arsekicking. So far i have an eternal reward and a cloak+dagger, but im not sure which pistol to use. I cant afford the familiar fez (set hat), so dont be concerned with set bonus, because i cant get it anyway.

The L'etranger is pretty sweet, but then, so is the Ambassador.

Which should i go for? :D
 

Sampsa

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When you are shooting your gun as spy things have gone badly just a moment ago. Go with Ambassador. Its critical shot can save you whereas L'etrangers cloack replenishmenet is likely not to work becasue people are shooting at you making your cloak flicker.
 

BeeRye

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I'd use L'etranger, seeing as once you fire you'll need to backstab again before you can disguise, so getting some cloak back if it's running out could be valuable. Even if you hs someone with the Ambassador you're probably not going to be able to shoot your way out of trouble.
 

Dorian

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Honestly, I think vanilla Spy is the best so far if you're in an experienced competition[footnote]That being said, the Saharan Spy would be hilarious to use on a "Noob Server".[/footnote]. Being unable disguise will make you extremely scapegoatish. And unless you have fantastic accuracy with the Ambassador, the regular revolver it is.

I haven't used L'etranger much to be honest, but I think I'd prefer to have the extra damage of the regular revolver in case I get cornered by a Pyro.

And for the watches......
Dead Ringer = noob's failsafe and is soooooooooo overused that it loses the surprise factor it has
Cloak & Dagger = camper's friend. And the only classes that are good at camping are the fucking Engineer and Sniper, and even then not always.

And when one thinks about it, it could be said that the best loadouts for all of the classes are vanilla. Except the Soldier's Equalizer, of course. That's a straight upgrade.
 

Rednog

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It really depends on your play style, if you're going to go with the cloak and dagger it's probably better to use the L'etranger just to refill your meter even quicker and because you can't refill it with metal.
Though my personal loadout is eternal reward + regular cloak + revolver. The revolver is such an underused weapon, it actually packs quite a punch and can actually be fired rapidly for a quick kill, especially when back peddling away. Whereas the Ambassador tends to be more of a 1 shot and if it doesn't kill you have to book it, and even then the time/difficulty to line up a perfect headshot is semi dangerous especially in bigger matches.
And I prefer the regular cloak just because if you know metal locations you can cross great lengths of a map staying in the cloak.
 

ActivatorX

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If you spend most of your time playing on instant respawn servers with maps like ctf_2fort, you should probably ditch YEW and go for disguise.

If you spend most of your time playing on servers with longer respawn and payload maps, you should go with YEW + C&D (cloaking).

P.S. The Spy isn't meant to be a "point whore" like Heavy/Soldier/etc. The Spy takes precision, timing and most importantly - patience.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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The Syp has a gun?

I thought he could only facestab :p

OT:Ok, really, I think you should take the cloak regenerating one. Since you can't desguise, and the cloak&dagger is a "get out of death" free card, you need to be filled when they actually decide to shoot you.
 

Anarchemitis

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L'tranger if you're in a habit of moving around a lot and too impatient for the recharge.
Ambassador if your alternate class is Sniper.
Revolver default if you're into a trade-off of both aspects for higher average damage output per shot.

My reccomendation would be that you not go Spy. Because I don't like them.
[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Sapper]
 

Shockolate

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If you use the Cloak and Dagger, you should use the Ambassador or Revolver. They have power and if you use your CaD right, you won't need the L'estranger's recharge.

The l'estranger is more suited to the Dead Ringer. Since you can't disguise, if you get caught in a bad spot, pop off a few shots, DR and hide.

My personal experience, anyway.