A steaming goat-turd is better than GFWL. I know; I've had to use it (to play Batman: Arkham Asylum, which I bought on Steam).believer258 said:
People said that about WoW, but look at what happened with City of Cham... Lord of the Ri... Age of Co... Aio...KennardKId5 said:
Not particularly; makes it a pain in the arse when they likely bump the price up and they're the only ones offering (outside of smaller DD sites).OutrageousEmu said:
No, it doesn't. They're exclusively on there for PC, but they're still on consoles. Therefore, not truly exclusive. Therefore, it doesn't make you damn good.OutrageousEmu said:
That's all well and good, but why steal my avatar!Owen Robertson said:
If a new car company came into the fray, and the car wasn't that great, would you say "Hey, they're new, still use it it'll get better." When there are much better car companies out there?believer258 said:
This happens with most anything that takes a bit of time to get on its own two feet. Like most MMOs when compared to WoW. Everyone goes on ***** fits when a game launches with a mess of problems not cleared up from testing, and then conveinently forget WoW had the exact same problems when it first launched itself.Still Life said:
Evil? Evil?KennardKId5 said:
Are you...are you breaking up with EA? You bastard! After all they've done for you?KennardKId5 said:
I thought that I heard you laughing!KennardKId5 said:
Even Jared knew you were bad for me! That guy loves literally everyone!KennardKId5 said:
So "strike 2" is a download problem, which could in fairness be a fuckup on your part, a fuckup on your PC's part, or (but not likely) a fuckup on EA's part. Do you beat your girlfriend when your check engine light comes on?KennardKId5 said:
You made me do this to you! And Sheila totally lets me lick her ass!KennardKId5 said:
Palm + face = me.KennardKId5 said:[TLR] Read it anyway!
As I said earlier, Steam collects exactly the same data. If you aren't opting out of the Steam hardware and software survey, but you are upset about Origin collecting the data that you're voluntarily giving to valve, you're being pretty darned hypocritical. It would make more sense if you were opting out, but I seriously doubt that even the majority of gamers who are pissed off about that clause do it, let alone all of them.ecoho said:Owyn my friend i have to disagree a little and it hurts me to do so. EA is one of my favored companies but origin is just bad maybe not evil but its defiantly bad. i think EA needs to rethink their business strategy any system that requires you to let it look at your specs on your computer or you cant play the game you own is just madness EA will take such a huge beating on BF3 for this.(besides the fact that they screwed up the PC version) Please EA go back to being just greedy i can support that but not crap like this that intrudes on privacy.(by greedy i mean id like to just hear all the bitching about project ten dollar instead of thisOwyn_Merrilin said:
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believer258 said:
Steam was most definitely a steaming pile when it first launched. (pun intended) Of that no one can legitimately refute. But, that is NO excuse for Origin being the colossal piece of shit it is. Especially given that it's basically just the EA Download Manager with a new moniker and coat of paint. (and a slew of new, intrusive, restrictive EULAs) EA has a wealth of knowledge, both from near a decades worth of competitors services as well as lessons they SHOULD have learned from their own DD service. Clearly, they've ignored all of it and are solely interested in making as much cash as possible and give fuck all for the interests and well-being of their customers. And this is coming from someone who's used Origin, Battlelog, and for years was generally forgiving of EA.Still Life said:
And that's not even the whole story. EA didn't just just want to keep the DLC off of Steam, they wanted it only available on Origin. On top of that, they all but strong-armed Crytek into signing a deal that made all current and future patches, bug fixes, and updates only available to the Origin version of Crysis 2. This means, in the case of Steam, if Valve sold a copy of Crysis 2 to someone via the Steam store, that person would never ever get an update or patch, let alone any of the DLC. So rather then sell a nerfed copy of the game, at full price (being that EA set the price point), Valve just pulled it from the Store front. So really, can you blame them?TheSniperFan said:
Eh, not really. They just convinced me not to get Mass Effect 3, not to download their lame digital platform.OutrageousEmu said:
i did opt out. i dont let anyone look at my hardware, its none of their business what i have runing. if they want to know they can send me a survey(i tend to answer those since i know what they are used for) but i take exception to having a program roam around my PC it just feels wrong.....Owyn_Merrilin said:As I said earlier, Steam collects exactly the same data. If you aren't opting out of the Steam hardware and software survey, but you are upset about Origin collecting the data that you're voluntarily giving to valve, you're being pretty darned hypocritical. It would make more sense if you were opting out, but I seriously doubt that even the majority of gamers who are pissed off about that clause do it, let alone all of them.ecoho said:Owyn my friend i have to disagree a little and it hurts me to do so. EA is one of my favored companies but origin is just bad maybe not evil but its defiantly bad. i think EA needs to rethink their business strategy any system that requires you to let it look at your specs on your computer or you cant play the game you own is just madness EA will take such a huge beating on BF3 for this.(besides the fact that they screwed up the PC version) Please EA go back to being just greedy i can support that but not crap like this that intrudes on privacy.(by greedy i mean id like to just hear all the bitching about project ten dollar instead of thisOwyn_Merrilin said:
Then congratulations, you're consistent and have a right to complain. I seriously doubt most of the other people pitching a fit about it do that; there's just way too many of them for that to happen, statistically speaking.ecoho said:i did opt out. i dont let anyone look at my hardware, its none of their business what i have runing. if they want to know they can send me a survey(i tend to answer those since i know what they are used for) but i take exception to having a program roam around my PC it just feels wrong.....Owyn_Merrilin said:As I said earlier, Steam collects exactly the same data. If you aren't opting out of the Steam hardware and software survey, but you are upset about Origin collecting the data that you're voluntarily giving to valve, you're being pretty darned hypocritical. It would make more sense if you were opting out, but I seriously doubt that even the majority of gamers who are pissed off about that clause do it, let alone all of them.ecoho said:Owyn my friend i have to disagree a little and it hurts me to do so. EA is one of my favored companies but origin is just bad maybe not evil but its defiantly bad. i think EA needs to rethink their business strategy any system that requires you to let it look at your specs on your computer or you cant play the game you own is just madness EA will take such a huge beating on BF3 for this.(besides the fact that they screwed up the PC version) Please EA go back to being just greedy i can support that but not crap like this that intrudes on privacy.(by greedy i mean id like to just hear all the bitching about project ten dollar instead of thisOwyn_Merrilin said:
lol true but still would it be asking so much for EA to allow people to opt out?Owyn_Merrilin said:Then congratulations, you're consistent and have a right to complain. I seriously doubt most of the other people pitching a fit about it do that; there's just way too many of them for that to happen, statistically speaking.ecoho said:i did opt out. i dont let anyone look at my hardware, its none of their business what i have runing. if they want to know they can send me a survey(i tend to answer those since i know what they are used for) but i take exception to having a program roam around my PC it just feels wrong.....Owyn_Merrilin said:As I said earlier, Steam collects exactly the same data. If you aren't opting out of the Steam hardware and software survey, but you are upset about Origin collecting the data that you're voluntarily giving to valve, you're being pretty darned hypocritical. It would make more sense if you were opting out, but I seriously doubt that even the majority of gamers who are pissed off about that clause do it, let alone all of them.ecoho said:Owyn my friend i have to disagree a little and it hurts me to do so. EA is one of my favored companies but origin is just bad maybe not evil but its defiantly bad. i think EA needs to rethink their business strategy any system that requires you to let it look at your specs on your computer or you cant play the game you own is just madness EA will take such a huge beating on BF3 for this.(besides the fact that they screwed up the PC version) Please EA go back to being just greedy i can support that but not crap like this that intrudes on privacy.(by greedy i mean id like to just hear all the bitching about project ten dollar instead of thisOwyn_Merrilin said:
