That's not a plot hole!

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Eisenfaust

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chiggerwood said:
Lord Of The Rings: There's two that annoy me to no end and make me want to slap the person that belches them out, the first being the most obvious, "Why didn't they just fly the ring to Mordor?" OK asshole you can't figure this out, fine! THE EYE OF SAURON WOULD SEE THEM! You know the giant fucking eye that sees all of Mordor and is constantly looking for the ring. He would see those eagles from miles and miles away. That is if his spies, which by the way can and do consist of men, birds, and trees, don't see them first. In which case he would send all nine of the Nazgul after them on their dragons (I know they're not called dragons, but wurms or something like that, but that's neither here nor there). All he has to do is kill the eagle with Frodo on it, or knock Frodo or the ring off the eagle and BOOM the ring is his, and all is lost, fuck you game over.
There's the additional concern of the mechanisms of flight. I think the Hobbit - though perhaps somewhere else (maybe just general logic) - establishes that the eagles fly using thermal currents. And a volcano is a huge source of thermal energy. The convection currents in the air would force the eagles up and out, making travelling towards to top of the volcano incredibly difficult, let alone while under pressure from the aforementioned Nazgul (who are presumably used to the thermal ridden area), and having to consider accurately dropping a tiny metal object into the volcano against strong winds.

Sure, the eagles flew in at the end of Return of the King, but they flew in low. At that height they couldn't hope to merely drop the ring in, and would be hounded by arrows from the ground. Yes, they could have flown straight to the door Frodo and Sam eventually used (though only Elrond would have known where it was, having been there), but then they'd land in the middle of an army of orcs (who would have moved to the door, having received orders from the Eye that, as you said, has now seen them), at which point they're still fucked. I've no doubt that it might have been possible, but just so tactically stupid. Not that sending two lone hobbits into the area wasn't, but hey, they decided to do that on their own.
 

Demonjazz

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DasDestroyer said:
The only plot holes I ever see are usually unimportant ones that can be attributed to artistic license, such as the sound of TIE-fighters in space.
Actually it's supposed to be that ships have a small atmosphere around them so they can hear explosions and lasers hitting them
 

WolfThomas

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Mycroft Holmes said:
Also there was nothing mechanical or engineering based about the leap from the lions head, it is clearly shown from multiple angles to not exist, you can even see his feet hanging over the edge. The bridge appears from nowhere because of his faith, because of his intent. Because God judged him through the trials.
Actually it is an engineering trick. I'd always thought it appeared for years too. But if you watch the idea is the bridge is about a foot or so lower than the ledge, hence his feet hanging. But it's meticulously designed to look like the walls of the abyss. You'll notice Indy scatters dust over before advancing forward so that those following behind will see it. It's called "forced perspective".

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klaynexas3

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I'm surprised I never said this the first time I saw this thread, but...

"Why didn't they just shoot Voldemort?" Well my friend, I will tell you why. First off, Voldemort was only ever really known of being back as a living being for all of 3 years. Of these 3 years, only 2 of them was he known to be alive on a wide basis beyond that of children. So for that first year, let us look at it this way. He went into hiding, was nowhere to be found, for that of 2 years. Even if they had been capable of finding him(and this is the guy who is considered one of the most powerful wizards of all time, I think he can play hide and seek), where exactly are a group of ragtag school children, that can't go anywhere besides the school and the one small village close by, going to acquire a gun, especially in England? And let's say they were able to acquire sad gun, are you telling me that they would be capable of getting close enough to him without being spotted to shoot him? When would he ever be seen outside of place of ruling, besides massing his armies? And on top off all this, with all unlikely hood that it would even be possible to catch the man in the sights of a weapon, why would you want a gun, when you can think(at least in the books) a single word, and kill someone with a piece of wood? They had all their killing power with them the whole time, why is it necessary that they get a gun to perform this assassination?

And now I'll do the time turner one: The way that time travel works in the Harry Potter universe is everything works on a set path. If someone goes back in time, it was their fate to do so, as shown in the third book. So any attempt to use it to go back in time to kill Voldemort would fail because he exists in the present, and thus the fixed timeline says he stays around until at least then. The timeline is set in stone, that's how it is presented, so it cannot change, unless we want shit writing.
 

Darkasassin96

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DoPo said:
The main character is able to go back to past points in his life and if he does something different, he wakes up in a world that reacts to that difference - if he gets hurt as a kid, it means he was always hurt for his entire life. However, at one point he is in prison and wants to convince his cellmate to help him. He does it by travelling to the past and impaling his palms on some spikes. Then we go back in prison and he suddenly sprouts holes in his hands, which his religious cellmate takes as a sign from Jesus. Only it doesn't make sense, since the protagonist would have lived his whole life with the holes in the palms, so they wouldn't have "miraculously" appeared, so his cellmate shouldn't be surprised to see them.
I have to say i havent seen that movie but someone could probably make a cool adventure game with logic like that.