"That's Not a Real Job"

[Gilhelmi]

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I'm not in debt to anyone for anything(something credit agencies seem to despise. Whenever they run a background check on my credit it comes out with a bad credit score because its blank). I live within my means and have been given no handouts, or benefits of any kind.
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I am bugging my congressmen and representatives, to pass legislation to automatically give good credit points to people every year they do not have debt. Trying to get others to join me.

I am thinking about getting more involved in politics just to bug people to fix problems like this. It is good too see other fiscal conservatives out there (Note: I said FISCAL, just nipping the dozen people hating on me for saying the "C" word)

I would love it if my lack of debt would reflect well on my credit score. But i don't think that passing laws is the answer. It just shows that credit scores are less of an indication of risk and more an indication of potential profit for lending agencies. If you do not have debt and are driven to stay debt free, than any lenders you deal with don't stand to make much money on interest dealing with you and have no incentive to do so.

One solution i would like to see is credit scores being information beyond the reach of any businesses that are not lenders and only with your permission to obtain a loan or credit. Living within your means could in some fields actually cost you promotions because some employers do credit checks.

Oh and don't worry. I'm not offended by the notion of being related to fiscal conservatism. My positions are varied, but i'll admit that fiscal conservatives have a lot of good points. I'll take that as a compliment

That is good. Too many people hear Conservative and immediately assume the far right people. I call myself a moderate conservative because of my view on fiscal politics.

I would be glad to see only finical institutions being the only ones too see a credit score. That would help as well. Thing is if we do not pass a law, then nothing will change because the businesses have no incentive to stop doing what they are doing.

In this case i fear passing laws wouldn't go far enough. Sadly business has proven that they can simply steamroll their way over and around penalties. And the penalties themselves are usually so slight that they feel free to ignore them. And if the penalties are strong enough to actually hurt them, they simply buy government support to lessen the penalty or remove the law entirely. I would be in favor of doing away with financial penalties and skip straight to public executions of company ceo's that are responsible for these offences taking place within their companies. At least that might actually justify their insane salaries and force them to be their own watchdogs.

Regrettably we seem unwilling to hold companies accountable in any real way that would change their behaviour. Laws are an inconvenience at best to them as it stands now. Vlad Tempes had the right idea. If you're willing to put people's heads and bodies on spikes, people shape up pretty quick and soon you don't have to worry about thieves. People are far too lenient now to the wrongdoing of others and then wonder why they are so often victimized.

But putting heads on spikes has a draw-back of a totalitarian society, where even the slightest offense is punishable by death as is disagreeing with the people in power. Eventually, this type of society devolves into civil war, or worse, a collapse of the civilization.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I don't care much for people who look down on anyone's occupation, at least you are working. I see people say it about things like convenience store workers and such. It annoys the hell out of me. Get off your high horse. If you look down on someone simply because of their choice of employment, you are an asshole, simple as that.
I'd rather look down on the people who are on unemployment and collecting, while doing work under the table and gaming the system to get the most bang for their buck. Or the ones that just don't get a job at all and latch on the teat of society. Look down on them if you must look down on someone.

 

[Aramis Night]

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I'm not in debt to anyone for anything(something credit agencies seem to despise. Whenever they run a background check on my credit it comes out with a bad credit score because its blank). I live within my means and have been given no handouts, or benefits of any kind.
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I am bugging my congressmen and representatives, to pass legislation to automatically give good credit points to people every year they do not have debt. Trying to get others to join me.

I am thinking about getting more involved in politics just to bug people to fix problems like this. It is good too see other fiscal conservatives out there (Note: I said FISCAL, just nipping the dozen people hating on me for saying the "C" word)

I would love it if my lack of debt would reflect well on my credit score. But i don't think that passing laws is the answer. It just shows that credit scores are less of an indication of risk and more an indication of potential profit for lending agencies. If you do not have debt and are driven to stay debt free, than any lenders you deal with don't stand to make much money on interest dealing with you and have no incentive to do so.

One solution i would like to see is credit scores being information beyond the reach of any businesses that are not lenders and only with your permission to obtain a loan or credit. Living within your means could in some fields actually cost you promotions because some employers do credit checks.

Oh and don't worry. I'm not offended by the notion of being related to fiscal conservatism. My positions are varied, but i'll admit that fiscal conservatives have a lot of good points. I'll take that as a compliment

That is good. Too many people hear Conservative and immediately assume the far right people. I call myself a moderate conservative because of my view on fiscal politics.

I would be glad to see only finical institutions being the only ones too see a credit score. That would help as well. Thing is if we do not pass a law, then nothing will change because the businesses have no incentive to stop doing what they are doing.

In this case i fear passing laws wouldn't go far enough. Sadly business has proven that they can simply steamroll their way over and around penalties. And the penalties themselves are usually so slight that they feel free to ignore them. And if the penalties are strong enough to actually hurt them, they simply buy government support to lessen the penalty or remove the law entirely. I would be in favor of doing away with financial penalties and skip straight to public executions of company ceo's that are responsible for these offences taking place within their companies. At least that might actually justify their insane salaries and force them to be their own watchdogs.

Regrettably we seem unwilling to hold companies accountable in any real way that would change their behaviour. Laws are an inconvenience at best to them as it stands now. Vlad Tempes had the right idea. If you're willing to put people's heads and bodies on spikes, people shape up pretty quick and soon you don't have to worry about thieves. People are far too lenient now to the wrongdoing of others and then wonder why they are so often victimized.

But putting heads on spikes has a draw-back of a totalitarian society, where even the slightest offense is punishable by death as is disagreeing with the people in power. Eventually, this type of society devolves into civil war, or worse, a collapse of the civilization.

Many places have the death penalty without turning into totalitarian societies. The distinction is rule of law. As long as people understand the rules up front and don't see favoritism toward individual groups, people will respect a government even if it is strict. Revolution's and civil wars happen when groups of people are marginalized and treated with double standards in how the rules are applied to them.People have an innate sense of fairness that when violated, will cause them to react unfavorably towards government.

 

[Yan007]

I'm an ESL teacher and people tell me all the time I should get a real job.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

If somebody pays you for it, it is a real job.

That is what literally defines a job.

It might be a silly job, a pointless job, or a job that actively uses up resources for no return, but if your being paid, it is a job all the same.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

A variant on this: I've been told to do a real master/study or to do some proper research, because apparently bioinformatics is not that. -_-'

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

The blue-collar world is rife with pride in suffering. Not miserable every day? You're not a real person then. People that do this like to project their misery onto others. Try to invent a competition for "who has it worst" when there wasn't even a demand for such a thing.

They often brag about being sick, or hurt. They will ask you how you are, and if you reply with "not feeling well", they'll quip out a remark on how they were much sicker than you a few weeks ago, and how they went to work anyway. Etc.

Also, usually alcoholism.

White-collar does it too in their own special sociopath way, so don't get any ideas on me being elitist.

Haha, Im an apprentice carpenter but I have to say I agree with you, and at times have to resist the impulse to do it myself when talking about my work.

Your quote makes me think of this song